THIS will stop you from watching porn forever!

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I was browsing through theChive and stumbled upon this http://thechive.com/2013/03/11/porn...t-makeup-makes-a-slight-difference-66-photos/


Basically 66 porn stars without makeup.


I can honestly say I'm repulsed. I don't think I'll be getting an erection till I get those images out of my head.


Those "hot" women you watch in porn that seem beautiful look that way after 2 hours of make-up. Do you remember Chase talking how porn stars are less hot than girls you'll meet during the day?

Well this proves that those "hot" girls(who you fantasize about and put on a pedestal and think are angelic) from the videos are actually not just average, but honestly quite ugly. The kind of girl you wouldn't sleep with if you saw her during the day with no make-up. Honestly I wouldn't even talk with a girl that ugly I can't imagine fantasizing about having sex with.



Next time you think about watching porn - just remember that those girls you're watching are 10 times uglier than that cute girl you saw at the supermarket/gym/at school/at work.


You have a choice to make - masturbate to ugly video-women or sleep with beautiful real girls.


Edit: number 40
 

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Franco said:
Good find, MisterX... made me chuckle, lol.

I have two videos that will probably blow some guys' minds here if they haven't seen them. Check these out:


- Franco
lol those look ugly

talking about making breasts look bigger I remember I once saw: http://thechive.com/2013/04/15/a-diy-guide-to-faking-bigger-boobs-8-photos/

if you don't have time to open the link just look at what difference can be made

big-boobs-7.jpg
 

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I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of club/bar girls, i.e., normal-non-porn-stars, that do the same thing....

Also, some I still find attractive without makeup:

1, 3, 19, 22, 24, 25, 34, 38, 40!, 47, 60

These are maybes (I'd have to be pretty horny):

5, 12, 21, 23, 26, 31, 35, 37, 46, 49, 50, 52, 54, 66

Yes, there are some awful ones, but I don't think this ruins anything for me. I still see some hot girls without makeup. Maybe my standards have been lowered?
 

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Pinot,

Maybe my standards have been lowered?

This isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're just talking about girls you'd sleep with for experience. ;)

Also, some I still find attractive without makeup:

1, 3, 19, 22, 24, 25, 34, 38, 40!, 47, 60

For reference, I guess here are the ones I think look relatively good for not wearing make-up:

1, 5, 6, 9, 22, 32, 37, 40, 54, 59, 61
 

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Franco said:
For reference, I guess here are the ones I think look relatively good for not wearing make-up:

1, 5, 6, 9, 22, 32, 37, 40, 54, 59, 61

6! I think she looks pretty ugly! Haha. Everyone has different tastes though, and I'm sure there are some I picked where you're thinking the same thing.

I glanced back through my list. In my opinion, the most attractive girl is #19. In fact, I think she looks hotter without makeup (well, she could use just a little bit of makeup).

porn-stars-with-makeup-without-49.jpg


Everyone seems to agree that #40 is a hot redhead.
 

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I think this finally cured my approach anxiety. There is no need to be anxious if women look like this. They are not the flawless, artless creatures they are just average , a little above average, or downright ugly. They are far from perfect and they don't deserve to be put on a pedestal like many men do ( I was one of them). Maybe that's why so many women are so insecure about their looks, they don't look that amazing without make-up or with their boob tricks. I'm never putting a woman on a pedestal again nor I'm I going to chase one, it isn't worth it. I finally see how they are imperfect human beings just like me.
 

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Thanks for putting this up, MisterX. Some of those pictures made me almost throw up in my mouth a bit, but that may just be me being sick =). Anyways, it's got me thinking about how almost all of the girls at school do the same kinds of things with makeup, and that a good number of the most popular and "hottest" girls there are actually not that attractive without makeup. It's making me believe even more so now than I did before that girls aren't such a big deal and the hottest girls aren't these unattainable and perfect beings. I've been trying to get this through my mind, but until recently a little bit of me always thought that I wasn't ready for some of the hotter girls.

Oh and I definitely think I'll be done watching porn now, it's been a bad habit that I've been trying to completely abstain from for a little while, and every so often I'd break. I should've known better anyways before this, but this just gave me a little push to finally stop.

-Pato
 

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Honestly I think that those girls might not be too ugly by US standards. Not to be rude but in Eastern Europe where I live, those girls are (as there is a saying in my country) "so ugly that they use them to chase away demons at the monastery" :D (is sounds super funny in Bulgarian :D)


Not sure if those are average for America but I'm shocked how some of you said that you'd sleep with any of them.

Okay except number 40. She's really cute with no make up.


DavidEdge and Pato, that's the thing most of those "hot" girls you see have spent 5 hours getting ready. Putting 18 layers of make-up doing their hair. Getting flashy clothes and acting like a million bucks.

That's why I don't do night game and I don't like girls who you can see have tried to look good.


And that's why you must not put them on a pedestal. Cause you see the makeup and think "Wow hot" but she's seen herself with no make up and knows she's not perfect.

And trust me even the most gorgeous girls have insecurities and she's just a human being like you and like every other girl out there, sometimes as it has been mentioned the hot girls are pretty ordinary people and lead ordinary lives.

Those hot girls at your school don't get pick up from school in a Lamborghini by some billionaire playboy who takes her in his private jet to his private island, where she has an orgy with male models.
She wakes up, eats, puts on make up, goes to school/work. takes a lunch break, gets off school/work, has dinner, maybe watches a movie/surfs the web and chat with friends/goes out with some friends, and dreams she gets swept off her feet by the man of her dreams soon.

And that man can be you!


As it was said in the movie Hitch "No woman wakes up and says "Oh god I hope, I don't get swept of my feet by the man of my dreams today""
 

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I actually gave up porn long ago. I've gone back a few times, but now I've gone over 2 months without looking at it once.

I hated SO MUCH how I felt after a session of watching porn and masturbating. My first thought was always, "damn, I really don't have anything better to do? I could be out meeting women right now."

It's changed my perspective. Porn controlled me and made me less motivated to meet and have sex with REAL girls. There are plenty of reasons why giving it up is a good decision. But this is the biggest one for sure. I'm never going back and I advise other guys on here to give it up as well. Life is so much better without it.
 

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MisterX said:
Not sure if those are average for America but I'm shocked how some of you said that you'd sleep with any of them.

Excluding #40, you wouldn't sleep with any of them? Like, just have sex with... and that's it. End of story. 0 girls make the cut?

That's crazy to me. Sure, they don't look so great without makeup, but some of them have a nice pair of breasts -- a "butter face" ("everything is good, but her face"). Most of them have decent bodies.

Maybe my sexdrive is just too high or something, but if #1 (and several others I listed) came to my house (without makeup) and asked me to have sex with her, I would accept (assuming they're disease-free of course, etc.).
 

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PinotNoir said:
MisterX said:
Not sure if those are average for America but I'm shocked how some of you said that you'd sleep with any of them.

Excluding #40, you wouldn't sleep with any of them? Like, just have sex with... and that's it. End of story. 0 girls make the cut?

That's crazy to me. Sure, they don't look so great without makeup, but some of them have a nice pair of breasts -- a "butter face" ("everything is good, but her face"). Most of them have decent bodies.

Maybe my sexdrive is just too high or something, but if #1 (and several others I listed) came to my house (without makeup) and asked me to have sex with her, I would accept (assuming they're disease-free of course, etc.).


My sex drive is pretty high to the point of having sex 6 times in a row at night and another 6 in the morning. But the thing about me is that a girls face is the absolutely most important thing in a girl.

You see here 90% of girls have tight boddies so a girls body is not in question cause they are either fat or have great body. As for breasts I've never cared that much - I'm more of a butt guy.


And those women are below the girls I see everyday walking down the street or see at the supermarket so to me they look ugly and I can't sleep with a girl if I don't like her face.

I mean if I'm going to sleep with a girl I should like her face. Plus how often during day game do you get a girl to come to you and just say come bang me??
You'll have to approach her talk to her take her home, etc. If you're going to be doing that why no do it with a beautiful girl?

And I forgot to mention I only do day game. Can't stand the music that is played in every disko (there are no clubs or lounger here only super loud diskos with no where to stand and a huge dance floor) so night game is pretty much not an option for me.
 

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"They" do say that watching porn increases standards to an overly high level, and the cause is probably due to how much makeup, camera-work, and production goes into each shoot. And, that is a good reason to stop watching porn (or at least less): realistic standards of what is attractive (there is no 100% perfect woman; you'll eventually notice a flaw such as skin-tone, moles, hair, etc.) and making yourself less complacent about approaching.

Therefore, I think it's great that you guys have either stopped cold turkey or have begun doing less.

If I'm going to be personal here though, I do believe that there are some good things related to masturbation/porn, IF done in moderation, but is not necessary for living. The same can be said about alcohol. The main good thing about alcohol (in moderation) is that it reduces stress, and we know that stress can cause weight retention, depression, etc. However, if abused or if alcohol becomes an addiction ("I must drink alcohol to feel good"), then it is bad. I view porn/masturbation in the same way. When it begins to affect your life negatively, then you need to lessen it or cut it out cold turkey.

Possible benefits of porn/masturbation in moderation (almost all of these can be replaced with another activity):
  • Reduce stress (Alternative: hang out with friends, do something fun, have sex with women, etc.)
  • Get to know yourself and learn about sex better, so less anxiety (Alternative: have sex with women)
  • Prevent wet dreams (only a problem in high school during puberty; Alternative: have sex with women)
  • To stop thinking about it and focus on the current tasks you need to accomplish, like homework (Alternative: have sex with women or create will-power strong enough to force yourself to accomplish goals and forget about your sexual state)

As you can see, having sex with women will do the same thing, be more rewarding, etc., etc. However, sometimes, there is not a woman readily available, especially if you're in high school and haven't developed the skills necessary and are dealing with inexperienced/religious-conservative girls.

I just wanted to offer a counter perspective on everyone saying that porn/masturbation is bad.

As always, everything in moderation ;)
 

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PinotNoir said:
"They" do say that watching porn increases standards to an overly high level, and the cause is probably due to how much makeup, camera-work, and production goes into each shoot. And, that is a good reason to stop watching porn (or at least less): realistic standards of what is attractive (there is no 100% perfect woman; you'll eventually notice a flaw such as skin-tone, moles, hair, etc.) and making yourself less complacent about approaching.

Therefore, I think it's great that you guys have either stopped cold turkey or have begun doing less.

If I'm going to be personal here though, I do believe that there are some good things related to masturbation/porn, IF done in moderation, but is not necessary for living. The same can be said about alcohol. The main good thing about alcohol (in moderation) is that it reduces stress, and we know that stress can cause weight retention, depression, etc. However, if abused or if alcohol becomes an addiction ("I must drink alcohol to feel good"), then it is bad. I view porn/masturbation in the same way. When it begins to affect your life negatively, then you need to lessen it or cut it out cold turkey.

Possible benefits of porn/masturbation in moderation (almost all of these can be replaced with another activity):
  • Reduce stress (Alternative: hang out with friends, do something fun, have sex with women, etc.)
  • Get to know yourself and learn about sex better, so less anxiety (Alternative: have sex with women)
  • Prevent wet dreams (only a problem in high school during puberty; Alternative: have sex with women)
  • To stop thinking about it and focus on the current tasks you need to accomplish, like homework (Alternative: have sex with women or create will-power strong enough to force yourself to accomplish goals and forget about your sexual state)

As you can see, having sex with women will do the same thing, be more rewarding, etc., etc. However, sometimes, there is not a woman readily available, especially if you're in high school and haven't developed the skills necessary and are dealing with inexperienced/religious-conservative girls.

I just wanted to offer a counter perspective on everyone saying that porn/masturbation is bad.

As always, everything in moderation ;)



The thing is guys masturbate because the can't get a girl.

They can't just go out and come back home a few hours later and have sex with a girl.

They can't approach due to fear and insecurities. That's why they masturbate. For most guys it's not a question of masturbating or having sex - it's masturbating or doing nothing.


It was said that James Bond doesn't watch porn, George Clooney doesn't watch porn, Ryan Gosling doesn't watch porn. Rockstars don't watch porn and masturbate.
Guys who get laid don't watch porn.

Do you feel the need to watch porn after you've had sex with a girl?


The people who watch porn can't get a human being to have sex with them(or are afraid of trying) that's why they watch porn and release.
 

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MisterX said:
My sex drive is pretty high to the point of having sex 6 times in a row at night and another 6 in the morning. But the thing about me is that a girls face is the absolutely most important thing in a girl.

You see here 90% of girls have tight boddies so a girls body is not in question cause they are either fat or have great body. As for breasts I've never cared that much - I'm more of a butt guy.

I guess just coming from different perspectives.

If it's just sex, a woman's face is somewhat important, true, but not huge deal if I'm just wanting sex. Of course, if I'm wanting a girlfriend, then face is way more important.

There are plenty of girls there that make the "sex" cut, but very few that make the "girlfriend" cut.

And those women are below the girls I see everyday walking down the street or see at the supermarket so to me they look ugly and I can't sleep with a girl if I don't like her face.

Well... we're imagining here that we're removing the makeup from these girls faces that we see on the street and at the supermarket. But, I mostly agree with you that I normally see girls with prettier faces than these. If I remove the makeup from girls on the street mentally, there's at least a handful or two that would be equal to the girls here.

I mean if I'm going to sleep with a girl I should like her face. Plus how often during day game do you get a girl to come to you and just say come bang me??
You'll have to approach her talk to her take her home, etc. If you're going to be doing that why no do it with a beautiful girl?

It was just a hypothetical.

The thing is... do you truly know if she's beautiful? There is natural makeup that can make this very deceitful (where it looks like they're naturally beautiful).

And again, just for me personally, face just isn't a huge deal for sex (it's important, but not by a large margin). For day game, I guess I am pickier, so I do only approach girls that meet a certain cut as far as beauty. For a couple of these, I'd still approach them though, like #19 and #40.
 

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MisterX said:
The thing is guys masturbate because the can't get a girl.

They can't just go out and come back home a few hours later and have sex with a girl.

They can't approach due to fear and insecurities. That's why they masturbate. For most guys it's not a question of masturbating or having sex - it's masturbating or doing nothing.


It was said that James Bond doesn't watch porn, George Clooney doesn't watch porn, Ryan Gosling doesn't watch porn. Rockstars don't watch porn and masturbate.
Guys who get laid don't watch porn.

Do you feel the need to watch porn after you've had sex with a girl?


The people who watch porn can't get a human being to have sex with them(or are afraid of trying) that's why they watch porn and release.

Very true and valid points.

But... there will be times in life when a guy just can't get a girl (even after approaching, etc.). I'm not thinking of the general case so much, but specific examples.

For example, a kid in high school. He doesn't want to constantly get wet dreams. He approaches girls and just isn't getting dates (as he's a "beginner" and learning). If he wants to prevent wet dreams, he's probably going to have to masturbate once a month or so.

If a guy is never getting sex and never approaching/dating, then he should cut out porn/masturbation completely. However, if it's not affecting your life, then I don't see the reason to make it a hard black&white rule to cut out. It's sort of up to the individual and depends on the circumstances. Like, I'm not going to look down upon someone that does it and judge them harshly.
 

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PinotNoir said:
MisterX said:
My sex drive is pretty high to the point of having sex 6 times in a row at night and another 6 in the morning. But the thing about me is that a girls face is the absolutely most important thing in a girl.

You see here 90% of girls have tight boddies so a girls body is not in question cause they are either fat or have great body. As for breasts I've never cared that much - I'm more of a butt guy.

I guess just coming from different perspectives.

If it's just sex, a woman's face is somewhat important, true, but not huge deal if I'm just wanting sex. Of course, if I'm wanting a girlfriend, then face is way more important.

There are plenty of girls there that make the "sex" cut, but very few that make the "girlfriend" cut.

And those women are below the girls I see everyday walking down the street or see at the supermarket so to me they look ugly and I can't sleep with a girl if I don't like her face.




Well... we're imagining here that we're removing the makeup from these girls faces that we see on the street and at the supermarket. But, I mostly agree with you that I normally see girls with prettier faces than these. If I remove the makeup from girls on the street mentally, there's at least a handful or two that would be equal to the girls here.

I mean if I'm going to sleep with a girl I should like her face. Plus how often during day game do you get a girl to come to you and just say come bang me??
You'll have to approach her talk to her take her home, etc. If you're going to be doing that why no do it with a beautiful girl?

It was just a hypothetical.

The thing is... do you truly know if she's beautiful? There is natural makeup that can make this very deceitful (where it looks like they're naturally beautiful).

And again, just for me personally, face just isn't a huge deal for sex (it's important, but not by a large margin). For day game, I guess I am pickier, so I do only approach girls that meet a certain cut as far as beauty. For a couple of these, I'd still approach them though, like #19 and #40.


It's just me I know. I'm different than most guys. The thing is a girls face is the thing that turns me on the most. That's why I can't cum in positions like doggy or other where I can't look at her face. I really enjoy the positions but just can't cum.
Even when I watched porn, I selected the girl based on her face.

Btw I remembered sth interesting - when I used to watch porn a year and some ago - I could never get an erection while watching porn. I'd always get half erection and some type of semy-hard erection. And even if bby some miracle I got an erection I would lose it in like 15 seconds.

But when I think about a girl I want to sleep with or have slept with and I get so hard I can cut glass with it. And when I'm with a girl the erections wast for hours - if we're doing foreplay - which I love having 2-3 hours of foreplay before penetrating her is amazing, but only with a girl where you both really like each other.
 

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Btw PinotNoir it's because I love foreplay and after play that a girls face is so important.

I don't really enjoy the get naked penetrate for 10 minutes and go home kinda sex.


I like to start kissing her neck and collar bone while clothed, then pin her to the wall and pin her hands above her hear and make her forget her name. Then throw her on the bed and start kissing and undressing her.

Then spend at least 1 hour doing foreplay - exploring every inch of her body with my lips and teasing her. Then I can spend an hour just eating her pussy.

And after 1-2 hours of foreplay we get to humping our brains out.I prefer it rough girls love rough sex also . Going 6-7 rounds.

After I can't go anymore there comes after play. Kissing her body all over again, giving her a massage and letting her lay on you chest. You don't get that with a girl you don't really like.


And when I really really like a girl I can go 6-7 times at one time. But with a girl that is just okay there won't be any foreplay and I'll just hurry to cum and get her out.



It's just the kind of sex I enjoy and that's why I'm more selective of girls I sleep with.




I remember Chase saying he doesn't like foreplay and likes to just get down to penetration asap, so he and guys like him wouldn't mind if a girls face isn't that attractive. But can you spend an hour or two having foreplay and kissing an ugly girl? Can you eat her pussy a lot if you find her ugly? Can you have afterplay if she's ugly?

At least I can't.

Btw having an hour of foreplay and at least 30min of eating a girls pussy get her crazy and teases her soooo much she cums really fast from penetrative sex. Plus you've given her a couple or few orgasms while eating her out.

And the afterplay kinda makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside and makes them melt even more and turns every girl into a kitten.
 

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MisterX, I definitely don't knock the way you pleasure women or how you get satisfied. That sounds very pleasurable to her and yourself ;)

However, I have met women that did NOT like foreplay. They told me about ex-boyfriends doing too much foreplay. So, it kind of depends on the girl in a way.

In fact, what they probably meant... is that there was so much sexual tension during the entire outing (whether dating or boyfriend) that there was already enough foreplay. And I think this can be true. If a guy can adequately create enough sexual tension, then foreplay is unnecessary (as the sexual tension is "foreplay") and prolonging it can actually be worse sometimes (counterintuitive, I know).

Women are also pretty horny when ovulating and tend to want less foreplay during this period.

Also, if you pleasure a woman this good, you may end up making her fall in love with you too hard. Of course, this can be a great thing, when wanted. But, if you're having sex with a new girl that you're not sure if you want a relationship with or not yet, it can be bad. You give her this amazing sexual experience and then end up deciding that you don't want a relationship. It can be pretty heartbreaking for her.

But, I do like your method. I enjoy it, and I think women enjoy it, but it's mainly for a girlfriend. 1-2 hours of foreplay and then 1 hour of licking her pussy is just a little too much for me haha, especially if she's not my girlfriend yet. If I have a long-term girlfriend that enjoys this and I want to blow her mind for 6 hours, then I'd definitely do this, no problem. I'd massage her entire body in hot oil, lick her out, give it to her in different positions, maybe rest haha, and give it to her again in the shower or some other interesting place. But, most of the time, I'm not going to do 2 hours of foreplay and 1 hour of eating her out; that's a lot for me. Just personal preference I guess.
 

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MisterX, I definitely don't knock the way you pleasure women or how you get satisfied. That sounds very pleasurable to her and yourself ;)

However, I have met women that did NOT like foreplay. They told me about ex-boyfriends doing too much foreplay. So, it kind of depends on the girl in a way.

In fact, what they probably meant... is that there was so much sexual tension during the entire outing (whether dating or boyfriend) that there was already enough foreplay. And I think this can be true. If a guy can adequately create enough sexual tension, then foreplay is unnecessary (as the sexual tension is "foreplay") and prolonging it can actually be worse sometimes (counterintuitive, I know).

Women are also pretty horny when ovulating and tend to want less foreplay during this period.

Also, if you pleasure a woman this good, you may end up making her fall in love with you too hard. Of course, this can be a great thing, when wanted. But, if you're having sex with a new girl that you're not sure if you want a relationship with or not yet, it can be bad. You give her this amazing sexual experience and then end up deciding that you don't want a relationship. It can be pretty heartbreaking for her.

But, I do like your method. I enjoy it, and I think women enjoy it, but it's mainly for a girlfriend. 1-2 hours of foreplay and then 1 hour of licking her pussy is just a little too much for me haha, especially if she's not my girlfriend yet. If I have a long-term girlfriend that enjoys this and I want to blow her mind for 6 hours, then I'd definitely do this, no problem. I'd massage her entire body in hot oil, lick her out, give it to her in different positions, maybe rest haha, and give it to her again in the shower or some other interesting place. But, most of the time, I'm not going to do 2 hours of foreplay and 1 hour of eating her out; that's a lot for me. Just personal preference I guess.


Yeah those are valid point, that's why I'm really picky which girls I sleep with.

I know what Chase and the others say that you should sleep with every girl you can. But I approach only ones I really really like. Then see if we have chemistry and get along great.

I don't have experiences in fast lays meaning taking her home minutes after meeting her.

Sorry but I feel it's below my level to sleep with a girl I don't really like. Just my ego but what can you do.


Everyone is different and this is my style. The way I like things and do things. If I find a girl who doesn't like foreplay and only likes porking - we're not suited to be sleeping together for a longer time. There are soooo many beautiful girls, that I won't settle for a girl we're not compatible with. ;)
 
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