Sex Chronicles of BigS

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys,

Starting out this journal with the hope of having a single place where I can reflect on all of my interactions, as well as being able to see my progress over and extended period of time.

Ill post interactions, my weekly schedule, tips that I've learned, and monthly summaries including number of lays, approaches, and things that I think I've improved/still need to work on.

BigS
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Yesterday I did some day game at a busy public square in my city. I usually stand on a street corner and try to approach girls as they are waiting for the lights to change to cross the street. This gives me about 15 second for a hook, and then when the light changes I can say "lets go" and lead them to where they were going.

I am trying to deep dive during this initial encounter as well as banter/chase frame if the mood calls for it. Here is one of my encounters from yesterday:

Me: Hi! I really like your fashion I think its great.
Her: thank you!
Me: Im DD *shake*
Her: Hi im [name]
Me: I see you're looking at these photography books. what brings you here?
Her: Im a photographer?
Me: cool! what kind?
Her: use 35 mm lens and shoot models
Me: I could be your model sometime, lol

I think this last statement is qualifying myself and I should've said something cheeky like "oh so you like looking at naked people, thats dirty" or some other form of banter. I'm new to using banter so this seemed uncomfortable to me.

Me: so is modeling your profession?
Her: yeah, its my passion
Me: cool! is there anything you do outside of that?
Her: yeah, I teach yoga as well
Me: Nice, I like to do yoga occasionally.

I think this last statement is also qualifying myself. I think I have been putting a lot of time into studying game and it may be showing that I am trying hard during my interactions. I think I need to take a more nonchalant approach to my interactions.

Me: could I get your number and we get coffee or food sometime? DO you eat?
Her: yes, but I have a boyfriend.
Me: thats okay, nice to meet you!

I could tell by her body language that she didn't really have a boyfriend, so there must have been something wrong that I did with the interaction. I think my vibe that day was a little needy and trying hard. My plan is to take a day break from trying to learn new game techniques so I don't focus too much on those during my interactions.

I find that if I am not trying to game, that is when my game actually comes out. Kind of ironic/frustrating.

Another thing I could've done would be to move her as we were looking at these photography books. Or I could've increased compliance by telling her to get a book for me, etc.

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Hue

Tribal Elder
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Hey man, great you started a journal! Personally I think they're extremely beneficial so long you are dedicated to it and read back on past interactions to dissect things, come up with better ways to do xyz, and write down realizations / epiphanies that occur to you along your journey.

I'll definitely be taking a look through your stuff man, from the way you write seem pretty motivated to improve (=


Hue
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thanks Hue,

I have really appreciated the insights that you've had on my posts and I will try to return the favor :)

BigS
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Just did some night game last night with specific dialogues and questions about techniques found here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19810&p=97554#p97554

(not sure how to post links, lol)

Anyways, I think Hue's advice about being present and focusing on the rungs of my ladder that are already sturdy was great advice and I was definitely on my game last night!

I am at the point in my night game where I like to meet fun guys as a "home base" to approach girls from. These guys are starting to get really impressed with me and ask me to let them wingman for me/take them out in the future to approach girls. However, I usually work well alone and do not really have any techniques for using wingmen, so I have denied everyone thus far.

I will make a post about how to use wingmen in the FR board soon!

BigS

December Snatch Tourney (started counting 12/27)
Approach: 5
Number: 2
Date: 0
Insta-date: 0
Kiss: 0
Foreplay without oral: 0
Oral: 0
Sex: 0
Threesome: 0
Foursome:
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys,

Last night a friend of mine, an HB6, was having a birthday party downtown. She lives in the same building as me and was having a pregame, so I went to have a couple of drinks before going out downtown on my own to practice some night game. Some backstory: this girl dated one of my friends, but he cheated on her and since I was friends with both of them I kind of comforted her after this. While I was comforting her, she had been showing me signs of interest, but I never felt comfortable escalating because (1) she's only a 6 and (2) my friend already fucked her. Anyway, Im at this pregame and its me sitting on the couch with the HB6, who I'll call Ginger, and her friend who's also an HB6 who came from out of town. Playing beer pong in the same room are 4 other guys in our social circle.

Me and the two girls are talking on the couch and I talk a little bit with this girl from out of town, I'll call her Ginger#2. It's fun and we're relaxing for 30 min and then I part ways to practice night game and meet them downtown later for Ginger's birthday. When I get to the bar to practice nightgame, I'm already a couple shots in so I'm not super high energy and my sex drive isn't very high. However, I tell myself I'm making at least 5 approaches tonight whether I like it or not, lol.

At the bar I order a beer and see 2 HB6's at the bar, one of which is looking at me. I go over and approach them directly. They hook easily but I'm not super interested and also just feeling really lazy tonight (this is a theme of the night, and probably my greatest downfall). Because I'm feeling lazy, I dont target one girl in particular and the set kind of fizzles out. One of the girls is trying to get me to come to karaoke with them, but fuck that. I grab the hotter of the two's number and we part ways.

Next, I see 4 guys playing beer pong who look like they're having a good time. I go over and they're super fun and take me into their social circle. Just adjacent to them are 4 HB8's watching them play pong. I figure I'll play out my social proof some more, and then I open the 4 of them directly. I make good eye contact with each of them, and I believe my fundamentals are good but im conscious of the fact that I'm being lazy tonight. Therefore, I keep it at small talk with all 4 of them and it also fizzles out. I know that if I were higher energy and had more of a sex drive I would have targeted one of them and then tried to move that girl away from the group.

So why was I feeling so lazy tonight? I think it is a combination of (1) the shots that I took at the pregame and (2) that I had masturbated earlier that afternoon. I didn't think (2) would be such a big deal, but maybe someone has some comments??? Anyways, I then get a text from Ginger saying they're at the bar next to the one I'm in and I should come dance.

I get to this second bar and a bunch of people from my social circle are there. The music is super loud and all you can really do is dance, not much opportunity for verbal seduction. Since I'm feeling lazy and I do like dancing ;) I figure I'll forget about gaming for a bit and just have a good time! There are a few girls in my social circle besides Ginger who are HB7's, so I dance with my arms around them and we're having a good time getting drunk. I unbutton my shirt fully and am kind of aware that I look like a lazy/drunk idiot. I probably have one of those glazed over looks in my eyes, haha.

While we're dancing, Ginger starts grabbing me and giving me signals. She's usually pretty physical when she drinks so this is normal for me, but I can tell that she's interested in me sexually, so we start kissing each other on the cheeks and grinding a little bit. (I'm not sure how much to escalate things in front of everyone else in our social circle). Since Im being so lazy tonight, I dont move Ginger or do anything else and just go sit down to take a break from dancing.

While I'm sitting, I see 2 HB8's come dance right in front of me sexually and one of them is staring me down. I open with "Hey, I think you two are sexy" loudly and confidently with a sexy smirk ;). Then, one of the HB8's tells me I have to choose one of them, but I stupidly say "both" and the interaction fizzles out. I think the theme of this night is that I was being lazy and I wasn't MOVING FAST when interacting with girls. I would open strong but I didn't have a mindset of moving things quickly with a target, so my approaches were uncalculated and probably ambiguous for girls, which is unattractive.

Anyways, we all leave the bars and Ginger tells me to come back to her apartment where her and Ginger#2 are staying. I haven't built up any sexual energy with Ginger#2 thus far. While at the apartment, Ginger is touching my leg and rubbing my back so I make eye contact with her and she smiles playfully. I smile and kind of nod in order to communicate that "I know you want to fuck me, but your friend is right next to us, lol". Ginger#2 go's to the kitchen to get water and I make eye contact with Ginger, however, I hesitate too much before Ginger#2 comes back. I think I hesitate more when kissing someone who's been a friend of mine for a while and we're changing our relationship like that.

Eventually Ginger tells me that they're going to sleep and we should all hang out tomorrow. I agree. I leave but am left with a persistent thought: what if I had kissed Ginger and her plan was for Ginger#2 to watch us or join in somehow? Did I just miss an opportunity for my first threesome?? I guess questions like these are what I'm left with when I dont move things quickly and just see what happens.

--General Takeaways--

1. sex drive is a thing. I had low sex drive last night maybe because of taking shots and maybe because of watching too much porn. I will not do either of these things today and see how it affects my drive.

2. girls want dominant men who MOVE FAST with their seductions and make their intentions clear. I can't keep opening sets of 3-4 girls without targeting one of them and trying to move things forward. My goal for tonight will be to try to move things as quickly as possible with 2-3 individual girls in order to get a lay.

3. I have gaps in my seduction knowledge in the areas of dancing (nonverbal) and social circle. I will read up heavily on those today.

Thanks guys,

BigS

December Snatch Tourney (started counting 12/27)
Approach: 10
Number: 4
Date: 0
Insta-date: 0
Kiss: 1
Foreplay without oral: 0
Oral: 0
Sex: 0
Threesome: 0
Foursome:
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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I've been in that exact situation..LR Friend of a friend .I started the escalation 2 places before getting back to the friends house. It was pretty clear signals from her.
A couple things that made that LR happen. 1) a time constraint where she was in town for just a little while, 2) a recent breakup on her part 3) alcohol lubrication.
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys,

Yesterday I was feeling good and decided to go out and do some daygame. I feel like one of the benefits of daygame over nightgame is that the former forces you to have good fundamentals. During nightgame, it is easy to feel socially lubricated, not care about getting blown out, and just approach girls in a sloppy way. During the daytime, there is more of a concern about getting blown out, so having quality fundamentals is key.

I realized this yesterday when I approached twice, but got blown out. Once I reminded myself that I needed to go back to square one, I started approaching with a louder, more confident voice, better posture, and maintained stronger eye contact. This got girls hooking fairly well. I approached 6 girls during the day, and then went to a bar's happy hour to make some more approaches as the street crowds were thinning out.

While at the bar, I wanted to focus on good fundamentals and not other aspects of my game such as banter or chase framing. This got me talking to one girl who was third wheeling a couple. Based on my experiences earlier this weekend, I learned that I had to befriend the friends of the girl in order to win her over. I got to know her friend and the guy really well, and I could tell that this was showing my girl that I was a normal dude. I believe the guy started vouching for me a little towards the end, but I cannot remember. After about 30 min of talking, they all went back to their apartment to change. I didn't try to force hanging out later or anything, as I was just focusing on having a good time. The girl gave me her number and said we should meet up later when they go out. I agreed and texted her, but she actually didn't text me back. Maybe they had a change of plans. Regardless, I think this was a high quality number and maybe something will come out of it later in the week.

While at this same bar, a guy who I had met last week came out to wingman with me. He's a shorter guy who I'll call Banker. When he got to the bar we started talking and getting to know each other a bit before wing manning each other. He was really cool and we had a great dynamic where I was comfortable approaching, and he was very comfortable with mid-game. We approached a couple of girls at this bar, and he did really well. After reading Chase's article on wing manning, I learned the proper Two Buddy approach and also that my goal should be to get him laid. I communicated this to him and reciprocated it.

We then went to another higher energy bar where we have had success before. Immediately, we see two really cute, skinny girls standing and drinking beers by themselves. They were honestly HB10's in my opinion. I open one of them directly--she's a pale girl with freckles, dark brown hair, and an AMAZING body. Banker opens a girl who looks Latina, and we find out that they're both AuPair's from Brazil, BINGO. We starting hitting it off and eventually start dancing with each other. I'm making my girl laugh, feel comfortable, and not trying to rush things.

I'm making a lot of kino with my Brazilian, screening her, she's qualifying herself to me, its great. At some point, Banker and his girl go to the bar to get drinks. I isolate my girl and try to kiss her, but she moves away. I'm graceful about the rejection and explain that I don't want to pressure her and she can control the pace. She likes this and says "hey you never know until you try" in regard to me trying to kiss her. We then continue to dance and I make some joke about her coming home with me to which she wags her finger and firmly tells me she's going home to her bed. I think this is fine for tonight as she's super attractive and cool and I wouldn't mind pursuing something long term with her. Therefore, we trade contact information and Banker and I go to a different part of the bar. I think that it shows confidence on my part to know that I made a connection with this girl, and even though I know guys are going to hit on her I am confident that I will get her over them.

Later that night we had the following texting conversation:

Me: hey this is Seth. did you get home okay?
Her: Heeeey. I'm not home.
Me: (this morning) oh really. everything okay?

I realized that she was probably pretty drunk and may not remember sending me that. I am expecting some reply explaining that she drank too much and is now hungover. Also, I've been thinking that my texts seem a little needy, which I want to avoid. In order to do this, I'm trying to stay confident that I will get her out on a date.

Overall, very solid night. I wasn't in my head, approached girls with good fundamentals, and had a winning mindset. I am going to get back into daygame this week and strengthen my fundamentals even further.

Big S

December Snatch Tourney (started counting 12/27)
Approach: 20
Number: 8
Date: 0
Insta-date: 0
Kiss: 1
Foreplay without oral: 0
Oral: 0
Sex: 0
Threesome: 0
Foursome: 0
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I feel like I want to dissect the last interaction with Brazilian a little bit further. I hooked them well (no problem) and Banker was preoccupying the other Brazilian (I am immediately seeing the benefit of using a wingman). However, my good interactions usually last about 30 seconds to 1 minute before I move my girl a little bit and then there is this moment where we make strong eye contact. This eye contact is usually at the point where the girl's friends are still nearby. If they weren't, I would use this eye contact as a window to kiss the girl. Lately, however, this eye contact has been occurring before I can isolate the girl completely.

In the future, maybe I should experiment with kissing the girl during this eye contact even if the friends are close by. Maybe this is the girl's way of saying that she wants me to make a move, but she wants to try it where she is safe near her friends. I definitely get the feeling if I dont take this opportunity to kiss the girl, then my score on the "manliness" scale goes down in her eyes. In the future I will try kissing them then and it's okay if I get rejected. I am pretty smooth with playing off kiss rejections and I think this is just like approaching girls--I cant be afraid of getting rejected or I'll never get better.

I think some "resistance thoughts" that I'm having when I hesitate to kiss a girl during this window may be:
  • 1. her friends will see us and that will embarrass her.
    2. I will get rejected.
    3. This will ruin my chances with her.
    4. She doesn't know me that well.

I could rebuttal these thoughts by saying
  • 1. her friends have probably seen her kiss a guy before, and they may even be proud of her for getting me ;)
    2. This is okay, it be like dat sometimes
    3. Maybe, but doing nothing will ruin it as well.
    4. True, but then I could just get a quick hookup out of it :)

Maybe I need to reframe my mindset from "oneitis" with girls who I think are hot, to being manly and taking risks with moving things forward. Her friends will probably be happy for her for snagging a dude like me, lol. Also, I have to remember that girls are just as horny as me and some of them definitely go to bars to make out with guys.

When it came to Brazilian, it is possible that she didn't want to leave with me then because I didn't make the move fast enough and my "manliness" ranking went down. She is accustomed to guys making moves on her quickly, and she wants someone who is confident and moves quickly with her. I think I was being cautious last night as I got the impression that she was a little conservative. Anyway, I just have to stay out of my head when texting her and I should be able to get her out on a date ;)
BigS
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I think that last night I could not pull anyone home because I was coming across as very high energy and making my intentions too clear to girls. I was just reading a topic in the FR thread that talked about keeping my body language and face neutral unless she does/says something that I really like. This makes me look like a king (low energy, high results) rather than a jester (high energy, low results). I think that was my issue last night. I opened a lot of girls and had fun with them, but I was showing them that they could win my approval very easily. This makes it less fun for girls because there are tons of jesters out there...

For future dates/interactions, I will focus on screening the girl most of the time and really listening to her. However, I will be giving the impression that I am a little bored and am not going to do anything to impress her. This is how I get girls chasing me. In the same vein, I have been touching/gaming on girls way too much. I will keep my touch to the minimum and focus on her reactions to it. I want to see that she is basically begging for me to do more.
 

BigS

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Today I did some daygame just walking around the city while running errands.

First Approach
A cute girl in a busy outdoor market walked past me. I speed up and tap her on the arm. She has headphones in and Im making eye contact first by accident. She decides to not take her headphones out and walks faster to avoid me.

I wound up feeling pretty creepy, probably because I made eye contact first and didnt give her a chance to "size me up" before looking at her.

I brushed this off and laughed and kept walking.

Second Approach
A girl is standing at a street corner waiting for the light to change. I stand next to her and say:
Me: hey, i just saw you and thought you had great fashion, im BigS
Her: thank you!! :)
Me; what are you listening to?
Her: oh a playlist my husband made, haha

I mentally checked out of the interaction at this point and let her go.

Third Approach
Girl in a long dress was walking down the street. I walk next to her and hold one finger out in front of her so she looks at me. I let her look at me first, then say:

Me: just thought you had a really great dress, im BigS
Her: thanks!

I cant remember the rest of the interaction but she was engaged so I mentally checked out. One good thing i did though was challenge her when she said that monogamy was necessary in this society. This got us discussing more.

Takeaways
This volume of approaching was appropriate for me, and its important that I only approach when I want to. Forcing myself to approach when I dont want to turns daygame into a negative experience. I will continue to give myself leeway regarding the volume of approaches.

Texhnique-wise I want to be more cognizant of my eye contact. I think mine is appropriate, but I just want to make sure. I do know that I need to stand up straighter, though. I tend to slouch when talking to girls.

Today was a little unlucky because the girls were in relationships, so Ill have to practice more tomorrow to meet more single girls.
 
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