Hey guys,
As a preface, I do not believe the content of this post actually constitutes an advanced technique (its about frame control, which is basic), however, the depth of responses I am looking for would come from more advanced practitioners of seduction.
Recently, I went on a first date with a girl from the dating app Hinge (great app). During our online texting, I inadvertently set the frame of being a funny, friendly guy, rather than sexy or mysterious. This was my first (if not only, mistake).
I met her on the date--we went to a classy bar with dim lighting and both ordered wine. However, it was readily apparent that she didn't put much work into her appearance, and lo and behold, we continued with this friendly, funny frame.
Some background: for the first several months of my seduction career I mostly relied on daygame and nightgame. I wanted to get past relying on online dating.
However, due to hearing about quick successes from other GC posters, and the sheer convenience of using online dating, I started to pick it up again.
For the past month I have been relying mostly on online dating, rather than meeting girls in person, and my numbers have gone up (approximately 1 lay per week).
However, my recent interaction with this girl (mentioned above), which did not end in a lay.... taught me a very important lesson--namely, why frame control is so important.
I realized that where I went wrong was setting the wrong frame early on, so inviting the girl back to my place and her having sex with me was incongruent with the previous frame I had set.
The Problem with Dating Apps
Earlier in my seduction career, I hadn't encountered this problem: I would meet girls while out, tell them I thought they were cute, and get their phone numbers/bring things to the bedroom.
Why was it now that I was relying on online dating had I regressed into setting at friendly/funny frame?
I believe that the answer lies within a handicap that online dating provides for guys who have difficulty setting frames. If two people match online, it is no longer the guy's responsibility to communicate that the first interaction will be sexual/romantic in nature.
Of course, the initial match on the app is a weak frame and as evidenced by my aforementioned blunder, I was able to override this frame with my own friendly frame, inadvertently.
However, I believe that not going out and making approaches in real life has allowed my skills in setting sexual frames to get rusty. This form of approach requires that the guy set the frame, or else the couple will be left wondering why they're interacting in the first place.
I realize that this post is really just me fleshing out an idea that has been thought through, but I would really appreciate some insight from more advanced practitioners re: times when they have developed strong skills in frame control, and times when those skills have weakened.
Thanks,
BigS
As a preface, I do not believe the content of this post actually constitutes an advanced technique (its about frame control, which is basic), however, the depth of responses I am looking for would come from more advanced practitioners of seduction.
Recently, I went on a first date with a girl from the dating app Hinge (great app). During our online texting, I inadvertently set the frame of being a funny, friendly guy, rather than sexy or mysterious. This was my first (if not only, mistake).
I met her on the date--we went to a classy bar with dim lighting and both ordered wine. However, it was readily apparent that she didn't put much work into her appearance, and lo and behold, we continued with this friendly, funny frame.
Some background: for the first several months of my seduction career I mostly relied on daygame and nightgame. I wanted to get past relying on online dating.
However, due to hearing about quick successes from other GC posters, and the sheer convenience of using online dating, I started to pick it up again.
For the past month I have been relying mostly on online dating, rather than meeting girls in person, and my numbers have gone up (approximately 1 lay per week).
However, my recent interaction with this girl (mentioned above), which did not end in a lay.... taught me a very important lesson--namely, why frame control is so important.
I realized that where I went wrong was setting the wrong frame early on, so inviting the girl back to my place and her having sex with me was incongruent with the previous frame I had set.
The Problem with Dating Apps
Earlier in my seduction career, I hadn't encountered this problem: I would meet girls while out, tell them I thought they were cute, and get their phone numbers/bring things to the bedroom.
Why was it now that I was relying on online dating had I regressed into setting at friendly/funny frame?
I believe that the answer lies within a handicap that online dating provides for guys who have difficulty setting frames. If two people match online, it is no longer the guy's responsibility to communicate that the first interaction will be sexual/romantic in nature.
Of course, the initial match on the app is a weak frame and as evidenced by my aforementioned blunder, I was able to override this frame with my own friendly frame, inadvertently.
However, I believe that not going out and making approaches in real life has allowed my skills in setting sexual frames to get rusty. This form of approach requires that the guy set the frame, or else the couple will be left wondering why they're interacting in the first place.
I realize that this post is really just me fleshing out an idea that has been thought through, but I would really appreciate some insight from more advanced practitioners re: times when they have developed strong skills in frame control, and times when those skills have weakened.
Thanks,
BigS