LR  Married woman from training

zappbrannigan

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Good news, everyone! I finally lost my virginity tonight!

After training, Married Woman came home with me, as we sort of had agreed upon already on Monday. I gave her a little tour of the place. I asked if she wanted to see the top floor and she was a little "meh" about it. So I went anyway and showed her the washing room and the guest room. She stood against the door post while I did that, and then I showed her the bedroom. She was somewhat hesitant, I think I went a little too quick with that. But she still sat down on the bed. She was the first to suggest taking off our shoes (I had forgotten the "rule" that it's a good idea to have women take off their shoes as they come in).

We sat on the bed for a bit and cuddled a little. Then we started making out. She voiced some token resistance, which I managed to calm relatively smoothly by simply stopping what I was doing and then starting again a few seconds later. We didn't have much time: only one hour before her husband would be home and she had to bike back all the way, which is at least 20 minutes.

After a while she started tugging my shirt again, which I knew was her way of saying it should come off. So I decided to take it off. I held my chest up proudly (I've been working out enough to know a woman will enjoy seeing it). Then I think she took off her shirt or maybe after a bit more of making out. She then asked me to give her a massage. I just stared at her with a smile. She said "no, I'm serious" in a serious tone (she'd told me before she was dominant in
bed). So I waited a bit more and then I decided to give in.

I sat on her back and while massaging, she said "lower". After a while she told me to undo her bra and she pulled down her sweat pants. I saw her panties, which covered only part of her ass. My hands went down and started massaging her ass, and she said "hey!", so I stopped that. After that, she turned around again and said she wasn't sure she wanted to do this. And again I looked her in the eye and said it was fine and did nothing further, only caressing her. She then started to be relatively serious regarding marriage and she was looking for someone for the rest of her life and all of that stuff. I simply gave evasive answers which sounded like I agreed.

There was also a moment where she asked me to say I loved her. I said "you first". I kept at it until she did say it. Then I reciprocated. She looked at me and asked "too soon?". I simply said something like "nah, it's fine". I'm not sure how I should've handled that. She was way too insistent on this stuff. Then she asked if I wanted to do it, in a questioning way, like she asked me for approval. I said sure, got up, took off my sweat pants, put on a condom and laid down next to her again. Meanwhile she'd taken off her panties too. Her pussy was shaved, which I found kind of interesting to note; I thought that was more of a porn thing than real life. She again voiced some concerns. I backed off slightly
and still looked her in the eye while caressing her. Then she said "okay, let's go" or something like it. And I tried to put it in but had some trouble. She helpfully guided it in. I started thrusting, but I had one leg over her leg and the other on the inside, which was awkward. So I moved and started to go at it. She started to moan rather heavily, and not long after, I came. I just kept going because she was still moaning. At some point she wanted to switch positions.

I took it out, she saw that the condom was filled, and she said "already?" in a slightly disappointed voice. I said "no worries, I'll just put on a new condom". I know I can stay hard after coming, so I stayed really calm and simply threw the condom into the toilet, came back up and put on the next one. She said "I don't want to get pregnant" and I said "sure, no problem". Then I went down in the bed again and she started to ride me. She moaned more and more and then she stopped moaning, so I think she came. Then she said "another one" or something, and she kept riding me harder. I thrusted from my position down to help her come quicker. I didn't come again, but I was fine with it.

She said she had to leave because it was getting late already. She also started some talk about getting a divorce. I said she should only do that if that's what she wants, and that she should consider her daughter.

I must say, I didn't find the whole thing to feel all that great. Perhaps I built it up too much in my head? I enjoyed the process of getting there more than the actual sex. Not sure if that's "normal" or if I should be worried, or if perhaps this woman simply isn't a great match for me.

But when I showered afterwards, I did feel as if a big load had been lifted off my shoulders! I don't feel all that different and am wondering why I made such a big deal out of all of this, and if it's really worth so much effort to get women.

Questions:

  • Did I mess up anywhere? Since Monday I already knew she is so extremely into me that I couldn't really fuck it up. But for future reference I want to get as good as possible at this stuff. I think I handled the token resistance (or is that what they call LMR?) pretty well by staying calm and relaxed, backing off a bit and continuing.
  • What best to do when a woman says she loves you so soon, right when you're about to have sex? I mean, what's a guy to say? :)
  • How can I gently get it into her head that maybe she shouldn't divorce the guy for me? We hardly even know eachother. What the actual fuck...
  • Is it normal that the actual sex is a bit of a letdown? Does it get better when you get more experienced? Does it depend on the woman? I've read before that condoms can reduce the feeling.
 

Starboy

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Hey man congrats on losing your virginity. Did you tell her that you were a virgin?Also how old are you if you don't mind sharing? Pretty cool that you lost your virginity to a married woman.I think you should tell this woman that you're not a guy worth divorcing her husband for and she should only do it if you think you're unhappy with him in the marriage. I'm not too sure about how to respond when a woman says I love you without having her get upset. Cuz if a guy says I love you to a woman too soon then it's a turnoff. I would probe her a little bit on it and say do you really love me? Why do you love me? What do you love about me?

I'm actually not that suprised that you said your experience losing your virginity felt like a letdown. I read that from chase and some other guys that losing your virginity isn't exactly a life changing experience and that you don't radically change as a human being when it happens. It's just you've gone so long in your life not having sex with a woman and as a result of this you end up feeling like this worthless low value man loser that you build sex up in your head and make it so importang. I'm still a virgin so I still have yet to experience it and I still value it too highly and judge myself as a man based on my ability to fuck girls which is bad. But I don't think just cuz you realize that sex isn't as life altering as you though doesn't make it any less fun or enjoyable. Depending on the individual your drive and motivation may go down if all you wanted to do was experience sex and know what it feels like. But if you're a highly ambitious guy and you want to be able to consistently obtain sex just to get better experience and get more high quality girls then you can certainly get better at game and improve.

Condoms do reduce sensation so you're not wrong on that. But it's better to be on the safe side and use that because you don't wanna fuck a bitch raw and risk getting her pregnant and worse contracting a incurable std. A lot of skilled high lay count seducers do contract stds because of their recklessness,but they don't tell others that they're hiv or herpes positive. So use condoms unless you're going to be in a monagamous relationship with a conservative,clean std free girl.
Congrats on losing your virginity man. It might not be a big deal to you anymore,but at the same time you should be proud of yourself
 

zappbrannigan

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Ben22 said:
Hey man congrats on losing your virginity. Did you tell her that you were a virgin?Also how old are you if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks, Ben22! I did not tell her, she didn't ask outright and made the assumption that a guy my age who is a bachelor must have quite a bit of experience. I told her that I was not that much of a player, but didn't go into numbers. I'm 34 years old.

Ben22 said:
Pretty cool that you lost your virginity to a married woman. I think you should tell this woman that you're not a guy worth divorcing her husband for and she should only do it if you think you're unhappy with him in the marriage.

I already told her that after sex and will repeat it as needed. My psychologist gave me the advice to tell her I prefer an open relationship. Then she hopefully doesn't get any ideas about us. And if she goes along with it, it's a great way to have sex consistently while looking for other women.

Ben22 said:
I'm not too sure about how to respond when a woman says I love you without having her get upset. Cuz if a guy says I love you to a woman too soon then it's a turnoff. I would probe her a little bit on it and say do you really love me? Why do you love me? What do you love about me?

Yeah, I want to know this for future reference so I can capitalize on my strengths.

Ben22 said:
It's just you've gone so long in your life not having sex with a woman and as a result of this you end up feeling like this worthless low value man loser that you build sex up in your head and make it so importang. I'm still a virgin so I still have yet to experience it and I still value it too highly and judge myself as a man based on my ability to fuck girls which is bad.

Yeah, so much of our identity as a man is wrapped up in our ability to sleep with women. This is all bullshit fed to us by the media and society in general. This is what "toxic masculinity" is really about: men trying to one-up eachother and being macho about sleeping with women and putting down other men who don't measure up to this nonsense "ideal".

Ben22 said:
But I don't think just cuz you realize that sex isn't as life altering as you though doesn't make it any less fun or enjoyable. Depending on the individual your drive and motivation may go down if all you wanted to do was experience sex and know what it feels like. But if you're a highly ambitious guy and you want to be able to consistently obtain sex just to get better experience and get more high quality girls then you can certainly get better at game and improve.

I enjoyed everything around it: the passion, the kissing, her moaning. Just the actual sensation of having my penis in her vagina did not do all that much for me.

Ben22 said:
Condoms do reduce sensation so you're not wrong on that. But it's better to be on the safe side and use that because you don't wanna fuck a bitch raw and risk getting her pregnant and worse contracting a incurable std. A lot of skilled high lay count seducers do contract stds because of their recklessness,but they don't tell others that they're hiv or herpes positive. So use condoms unless you're going to be in a monagamous relationship with a conservative,clean std free girl.

Yeah, I'm not a reckless kind of guy. When I find a suitable woman to settle down with I'll either get snipped or asked her to use the pill, so we can experience the full feeling.

Ben22 said:
Congrats on losing your virginity man. It might not be a big deal to you anymore,but at the same time you should be proud of yourself

Thanks, man!
 
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