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At training, I saw the married woman again of course. Before training, I asked her how her vacation had been. She said it was beautiful. The cool but not super hot chick chimed in; she touched married woman on the shoulder and asked "you went on vacation?" and sort of hijacked the conversation (she was standing on the other side next to her). This didn't seem to matter; I sort of ignored it. Not sure that's the best way to respond to something like that.
After training, she took charge for the most part. She suggested we go with our bikes in the direction of the park (which we'd done before) but then sit down on a bench somewhere. She wanted to show me some pictures from her holiday. So she showed me vacation pictures of her cats, daughter and husband. She was a little hesitant whenever she talked of her husband, which is only natural.
She asked me how serious I was and if I wanted to be other than single. I evasively said I am not looking for anything serious currently "but who knows what may be". She also asked me in a stern way if there were other women. I simply replied that there weren't any at this moment (which is true). I could've handled that more playfully, but from her tone I could also tell she wanted to know for sure. She also asked me if I liked foreign women. I said I preferred foreign women over local ones, which is the honest truth. I responded, and she seemed to like my answers. She assumed I'd been with many women already because I am single. I told her something like "you'd be surprised". She thought I was lying. Anyway, she said she never felt like this in a very long time and put her head against my shoulder. I stroked her hair and put my arm around her and started to caress her a bit. She mentioned I had such strong hands. I told her that she knew that already.
She implored me to keep quiet and not tell a soul about us. I tried to reassure her. She said "I can *see* you've told someone about us", trying to put me on the spot. I said I really hadn't, except that I'd mentioned to my mother in passing that there's a woman at training who is interested in me. She was also rather unsure and saying things implying she didn't want to move too fast. So I reassured her that we'd go at her pace.
She asked me about myself. She kept saying I should say something. I had nothing to say, really. She told me a few things about her character, that she was sweet to people who are sweet to her but not nice to people who are not nice to her. She also said she was a bit dominant "in the evening" and I didn't quite understand so I asked "in bed?" at the same moment she said "with sex".
At some point when she was lying against me, she looked up and said she felt a bit exposed (the bench was on the side of the road, not even looking towards the park). It was not an ideal location. So we went into the park. She chose a spot where we could sit down, by the pond. She mentioned at least twice that she'd had plenty of opportunities with men but she never gave anyone her phone number. I said I was honored that she had given it to me.
As we were sitting she kept looking down and pulling the hem of my shirt, trying to look down it at my chest. She did this a few times. So I reciprocated in a funny way like a certain dating coach does in his video, by pulling her shirt and looking down it. She did this a few times and then made a mock motion of pulling my shirt over my head and said "I really want to do this right now" (meaning, ripping my clothes off!).
She started to kiss me. At first just on the mouth but after a while it intensified and she started to use her tongue. I kind of enjoyed the feeling, at least her tongue was nice and soft, not rough like the only other woman I've ever french kissed (a drunk woman who tried to pick me up many years ago; I was too much of a pussy to go home with her, even though she invited me in. She was very fat, and I wasn't attracted to her though...). At one point she touched my dick briefly. She commented that it was so hard. I also touched her pussy through her pants for a bit and she said we shouldn't. I laid on top and I started to dry hump her, and she started to moan, but she wanted to stop because people were walking their dogs and might see us. I told her she could come with me to my place if she had the time. She said she didn't have condoms, and I reassured her that I did. She didn't have the time to come with me though. So we made out a bit more.
Eventually we wound it down as it was clear we weren't going to have sex today. I then said we should get up because I was being pestered by mosquitoes. We moved back to the bench to talk a bit and she said she'd like it if we could eat together sometime. I asked her when she was free. She said Friday, but I have a visitor. I asked her next week Friday, at eight in the evening. She didn't really agree. I'm not sure exactly at what point but she bit her lip. That's when I realised she was still very horny. In retrospect, if I had pushed for it hard enough, she might have come home with me then and there.
Then she suggested next Wednesday (that's two days from now!), so I asked if she had time after training. She said to meet up *instead* of training, but then I said I would only have time to go to training twice this week. She then suggested going after training. I asked her if she'd have the time. She said she'd only have an hour, so I asked cheekily if that would be enough. I told her she'd have to bike back which is about 20 minutes. She said we could make it. And she asked again if I had "those things" (referring to condoms). So it looks like it's on, Wednesday!
What I can learn from this:
After training, she took charge for the most part. She suggested we go with our bikes in the direction of the park (which we'd done before) but then sit down on a bench somewhere. She wanted to show me some pictures from her holiday. So she showed me vacation pictures of her cats, daughter and husband. She was a little hesitant whenever she talked of her husband, which is only natural.
She asked me how serious I was and if I wanted to be other than single. I evasively said I am not looking for anything serious currently "but who knows what may be". She also asked me in a stern way if there were other women. I simply replied that there weren't any at this moment (which is true). I could've handled that more playfully, but from her tone I could also tell she wanted to know for sure. She also asked me if I liked foreign women. I said I preferred foreign women over local ones, which is the honest truth. I responded, and she seemed to like my answers. She assumed I'd been with many women already because I am single. I told her something like "you'd be surprised". She thought I was lying. Anyway, she said she never felt like this in a very long time and put her head against my shoulder. I stroked her hair and put my arm around her and started to caress her a bit. She mentioned I had such strong hands. I told her that she knew that already.
She implored me to keep quiet and not tell a soul about us. I tried to reassure her. She said "I can *see* you've told someone about us", trying to put me on the spot. I said I really hadn't, except that I'd mentioned to my mother in passing that there's a woman at training who is interested in me. She was also rather unsure and saying things implying she didn't want to move too fast. So I reassured her that we'd go at her pace.
She asked me about myself. She kept saying I should say something. I had nothing to say, really. She told me a few things about her character, that she was sweet to people who are sweet to her but not nice to people who are not nice to her. She also said she was a bit dominant "in the evening" and I didn't quite understand so I asked "in bed?" at the same moment she said "with sex".
At some point when she was lying against me, she looked up and said she felt a bit exposed (the bench was on the side of the road, not even looking towards the park). It was not an ideal location. So we went into the park. She chose a spot where we could sit down, by the pond. She mentioned at least twice that she'd had plenty of opportunities with men but she never gave anyone her phone number. I said I was honored that she had given it to me.
As we were sitting she kept looking down and pulling the hem of my shirt, trying to look down it at my chest. She did this a few times. So I reciprocated in a funny way like a certain dating coach does in his video, by pulling her shirt and looking down it. She did this a few times and then made a mock motion of pulling my shirt over my head and said "I really want to do this right now" (meaning, ripping my clothes off!).
She started to kiss me. At first just on the mouth but after a while it intensified and she started to use her tongue. I kind of enjoyed the feeling, at least her tongue was nice and soft, not rough like the only other woman I've ever french kissed (a drunk woman who tried to pick me up many years ago; I was too much of a pussy to go home with her, even though she invited me in. She was very fat, and I wasn't attracted to her though...). At one point she touched my dick briefly. She commented that it was so hard. I also touched her pussy through her pants for a bit and she said we shouldn't. I laid on top and I started to dry hump her, and she started to moan, but she wanted to stop because people were walking their dogs and might see us. I told her she could come with me to my place if she had the time. She said she didn't have condoms, and I reassured her that I did. She didn't have the time to come with me though. So we made out a bit more.
Eventually we wound it down as it was clear we weren't going to have sex today. I then said we should get up because I was being pestered by mosquitoes. We moved back to the bench to talk a bit and she said she'd like it if we could eat together sometime. I asked her when she was free. She said Friday, but I have a visitor. I asked her next week Friday, at eight in the evening. She didn't really agree. I'm not sure exactly at what point but she bit her lip. That's when I realised she was still very horny. In retrospect, if I had pushed for it hard enough, she might have come home with me then and there.
Then she suggested next Wednesday (that's two days from now!), so I asked if she had time after training. She said to meet up *instead* of training, but then I said I would only have time to go to training twice this week. She then suggested going after training. I asked her if she'd have the time. She said she'd only have an hour, so I asked cheekily if that would be enough. I told her she'd have to bike back which is about 20 minutes. She said we could make it. And she asked again if I had "those things" (referring to condoms). So it looks like it's on, Wednesday!
What I can learn from this:
- It isn't absolutely impossible to get somewhere with a woman if you allow her to lead. If she's interested enough she will take the lead. However, I really need to work on this, as it is the major weak spot in my game. When push comes to shove, I need to be able to make swift decisions, strongly.
- Being evasive works better than honesty, especially when the woman is grilling you with questions. By not answering definitively, she'll hear what she wants to hear (I actually learned this from my psychologist as he gave feedback on an earlier date with another woman who I'd still like to get with but is probably not going to happen).
- I still need to learn better how to spot when a woman is horny. I didn't realise she was really looking for a heavy make-out session until we were in the middle of it. Or maybe she didn't really plan it?
- Logistics are key! If she'd had more time I could have taken her home with me.
- Not talking or knowing what to talk about is fine, but if she had been less into me I'm not sure she'd find this okay. I need to work on finding things to talk about. With this woman I am lucky because she's totally over the moon for me.