Hey smith what's up buddy
This is an interesting topic; I kind of have views on it and some thoughts about it yeah…
On this idea of going celibate, I think one way to see it would be to not be sleeping with new women as in randoms regularly for a certain period… I think there are some guys that are in a good girlfriend relationship and they can sleep with her couple times a week and have sort of the same celibate effect… but single guys can and should take some time of rest.
I think the value in what you describe is kind of that you get to put more sex energy into a big project or piece of work of yours. Whatever that may be; competitive athletes will take times apart where they focus only on their training diet sleep, revolve their life around the goal of their big competition or fight or whatever… and all their energies largely go into that.
People doing a big startup or writing a book or writing a screenplay or training to be a master acrobat or whatever: any person working towards mastery towards some big project and/or a hard skill of some kind, put a lot of sex energy into what they do and need to do that.
There are a number of people in history (tesla, da vinci, newton etc.) who recognized the value of this and the power of their sex energy fueling their work and set out to never sleep with or do anything with a woman (or focus their energies much anywhere else really that was distracted from their main purpose and obsession) so they can further put all their energy into their work.
I think doing pickup regularly and getting good at it is imperative and invaluable for the skill of getting good with women and getting to abundance and then to absolute abundance (and additionally focus largely on it when it is the primary think to master); but after that I think that guys who are the most focused on their personal growth and creating big things/working on big projects won’t be fucking randoms a lot all the time, once they’ve built the skill up to a high enough level.
This sounds controversial to say at first but I’ll elaborate more. I think that there is a distinction between the guys that fuck a lot of girls and who keep up with that largely into much later and later years, vs. guys who get pickup and get into relationships with extreme high value women who make them better men, and then while they are in that they can stay fully committed to that or sleep with the odd randoms for a fun break here and there should they choose.
What the guys who swore off relationships their whole lives and what the guys who are intent on fucking girls forever and never getting into relationships don’t realize or get to experience the power of, is a strong amount of personal growth and betterment that comes in a healthy relationship with a woman who is high value and challenges you to be better (one who is focused on her growth and her journey, and can grow stronger alongside you as you grow stronger).
The stoics believed in marriage and in relationships/the growth from them quite a bit… and there is a lot of virtue/wisdom/maturity that is gained in a relationship with a complimentary opposite girl that you’d be sort of hard pressed to find elsewhere (i.e. it would be hard to find on your own, or in other friends… could only really be gotten from a mate).
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So with pickup there will be guys (I’ve met one or two and in ways I feel emotionally a bit jealous towards them) who don’t have any other purpose or higher desires or urges than just fucking a lot of girls. Their quality will be sort of all over the place, they’ll have a ton of fun, and they won’t grow a ton as a person, but they won’t be super intent on that (and don’t have to be if they don’t want to be) and will be cool getting their rocks off appeasing their high sex drive and getting their dick wet, time and again.
The other camp of guys (most of the guys on this site if I’d have to venture a guess) who wanted to get good with women, sleep with many, find high quality ones too BUT who also want to achieve other things, build other things, create things for others, contribute to the world and bring massive value to it and leave some small sort of their own mark on it.
For these guys( likely tyler rsd guys, guys on the boards, yourself and myself included) personal growth and personal betterment and progress at this in all the facets and realms of your life are desired.
For these guys some partly committed or fully committed relationships are good, and some time focused on big projects and away for a bit from pickup is also good. Fairly healthy I think…
So that’s my opinion on this at least.
I took two whole months off this summer from sleeping with new girls, largely by choice… and in that time got to progress quite a bit with my strength training and focus on it without any other distraction. But I intend to do the same for pickup soon once I finish my current lifting training cycle, (take a break from lifting for a little bit, and other projects a little bit and focus hardcore on my pickup).
Rest period gives you time for your subconscious to piece together truths and deeper meanings and understandings of what you took time off of and make your better. Have seen this in multiple fields; and when you come back at them you can begin and soon find yourself even better at them and deeper understanding and skilled at them than you ever had been before your break.
Just don’t break for too long I think
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