Seduction in a Doctor's Office



Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Noitard » Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:09 am

There is a doctor I have seen a couple times, and I bring it up here, because I have been applying with her tactics that have consistently produced attraction, with other women, namely strong tonality, slowing down, eye contact, and body language. I have found that when I interact in longer conversation with women, that a large percentage will start giving off discomfort/ pre-kiss signals, with their mouths. Okay. SO I know I can spark attraction, or at least it out, and I think, identify it. My biggest problem, however, is interacting in conversation, approaching strangers, and qualifying. As to applying comfort, this is what I am talking about, here.

I have noted in talking twice with this doctor that she's been giving pre-kiss signals, but I have been unable to escalate. In other women, I have started to notice that in general, when the give off similar signals, they will reach out to me quite often, if I touch them on the shoulder. Interestingly, when I touched this docor on the shoulder, she ducked her head, which I interpret as attraction; I should have hugged her in hindsight, and next time, I intend to.

In a doctor's office in the future, when Isolated, how to build on these successful experiences? What kind of compliance tests could I run on a doctor, when talking to her? When a women is showing pre-kiss signs in a regular conversation, what hoops could I have her jump through?
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby JacobPalmer » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:13 pm

Are these pre kiss signals when you're visiting her for an appointment?? Because if so I really think you're reading into it a bit too much. OR if she really is giving these signals, then ask her out. On a date.
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Noitard » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:09 am

Yeah, those are signals during a scheduled appointment. WHy do you think I am reading too much into it? In any case, you think I should ask, as opposed to try to kiss, because that would build more attraction for the long haul?
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Fuck This » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:21 pm

Code of Medical Ethics Opinion 9.1.1
Romantic or sexual interactions between physicians and patients that occur concurrently with the patient physician relationship are unethical. Such interactions detract from the goals of the patient-physician relationship and may exploit the vulnerability of the patient, compromise the physician’s ability to make objective judgments about the patient’s health care, and ultimately be detrimental to the patient’s well-being.

A physician must terminate the patient-physician relationship before initiating a dating, romantic, or sexual relationship with a patient.

Likewise, sexual or romantic relationships between a physician and a former patient may be unduly influenced by the previous physician-patient relationship. Sexual or romantic relationships with former patients are unethical if the physician uses or exploits trust, knowledge, emotions, or influence derived from the previous professional relationship, or if a romantic relationship would otherwise foreseeably harm the individual.

In keeping with a physician’s ethical obligations to avoid inappropriate behavior, a physician who has reason to believe that nonsexual, nonclinical contact with a patient may be perceived as or may lead to romantic or sexual contact should avoid such contact.


Yeah that is a non starter.....
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby JacobPalmer » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:33 pm

Noitard wrote:Yeah, those are signals during a scheduled appointment. WHy do you think I am reading too much into it? In any case, you think I should ask, as opposed to try to kiss, because that would build more attraction for the long haul?


No, no, no, no. This is not anything. And read Fuck This's post. She's the doctor, you're the patient. Absolutely do not pursue this. This thread is dead, go focus on different women.
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby jakesykes949 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:34 pm

I think you're reading too much into it, bro. She's probably just flirting with you to keep you as a client, lol.

Shoot your shot though, it doesn't hurt. You might have to find a new doctor if it doesn't work out, though.
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Overdoze » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:27 am

w. any one in official roles or job positions (clerks, waitresses, medical staff etc) i always
1) derail convo to topics not related to her job role (pull her out of her job mindset and state)
2) invite to meet outside in relation to a topic or whatever giving her clear plausible deniability

any seduction i just keep as a burning undercurrent - i contain it but i never release the tension. i can grow it though but you have to be aware of the girls readyness for it and girls differ a shitload here.

means i route things down a verbal path instead of an escalatory one to move us out of the logistical situation which can be a mess for her and which she will be very influenced by no matter the situation. this shows finesse around her situation. I make it an easy thing to do outside - not too big thing she has to say yes too.
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby ZacAdam » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am

With hired guns,

you have to aim more than just the mainstream. If mainstream is phone number, ours is a kiss move. It breaks the narrative but still keeping two realities.

So yeap. I have heavy flirtation with working staff all the time. The secret is shades of grey. This is why molest at church cases gets away. That's how you get girls for ons. That's how you as a women get more leeway in social circle. Not everyone operate from this at high level, but It's very high level, and you won't get this mentally until you seen it. Date Asian girls, like really shy asian girls and make sure your fundamentals are decent.

You see a glitch in the matrix. :)

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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Michelangelo » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:40 am

I agree with Fuck This and Jacob Palmer

As someone who works in a related field, it is a big no no to see a patient. You'd have to stop seeing her professionally before attempting anything. And you can't give any sort of hint that you're interested until after you stop being her patient. Don't ask her out and then give her the choice to stop being her patient. Because it puts her in a difficult position to make. And definitely don't physically escalate during the appointment.

Besides if she said yes you'd have to stop being her patient and if she said no you'd have to stop being her patient. So end the professional relationship first and only then you can shoot your shot. Though honestly, the odds of that still working are low, since a lot of the times girls are only interested in these kinds of relationships with patients because it is a little risky. As such, once you're no longer a patient, that intrigue is gone and you're just another guy. It's a bad situation to be in because things are actually better to work out for you as her patient but also very unethical to make her do that.

My experience is from someone in the medical field. I have dated a patient, but when she was a patient I never made a move or flirted really and neither did she. Once she wasn't my patient (I only see patients once) she reached out to me. Even then I was careful not to overstep anything when I initially responded. That removed any unethical behavior on my part and I think is the only way something like this can work. Also, I sense that it's something women could easier do, getting male professionals, than in your situation of a guy trying to get a female professional.

These kinds of relationships can only be a bonus and not something actively searched for. Something like, wow this girl is really interested in me and actively trying to set things up with me. Not vague hints or signs. Once it's explicitly clear she's interested in you then you can proceed to take over the reigns.

That said, if I'm being honest, what you have specifically said gave me no hints of her being interested. In fact, she seems hesitant around you, where she actually physically ducked when you tried touching her. She did not seem to be receptive to you touching her in the professional relationship. The hug idea would have been really awkward and even been detrimental to seduction anyway. Imagine James Bond hugging a doctor after he's getting checked up following a mission...you can't. That's as platonic as it gets except in certain personalities or situations which neither were present here. In my opinion, you are reading far into this and should try in much more conducive situations. The reality is the only reason why you're flirting with this doctor is because she has to talk to and interact with you. It feels easier to a beginner. Step out of your comfort zone and approach women who aren't being paid to be around you. Luckily, in reality, chatting up girls in public is easier and more likely to work, it's just hard to make that initial approach.

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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby ZacAdam » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:09 am

One thing.

Why people are pissed off? especially young men today and boys........
It's because they say no to people like Noitard but then do otherwise when facing the same situation.

I am just showing how society fuck underage girls/molest young boys/massaging Ariana Grande tits as a preacher/etc. You can do this without the "dirty stuff". High level guys do this without the "dirty" stuff.

The fundamental principle ever: Shades of grey.

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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Overdoze » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:23 am

i would listen to Michelangelos points

at another seduction forum a guy was called into office for sexual harassment around nurses. somewhat similar vaquness in his descriptions as yours.

you dont seem experienced from your outlines so the risk becomes huge in you missensing her signals and state

that said i would advice you to stay in that space your in is a foundation for good seduction. Your sense of things. let it start informing you better. stay w it. Just learn about it through actual PU work in the field various places rather than w girls forced to interact w u.
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby ZacAdam » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:16 am

Gosta Bue wrote:you dont seem experienced from your outlines so the risk becomes huge in you missensing her signals and state


Hah, I work with various HR throughout the years. This girls is like thirsting for dick. It's like they haven't had one in many eons. I basically work in various industries. I see nuance that i get tired of it. Please don't say that i am full of shit when i see things clearly, as night and day.

In fact, there's risk when dealing with females, all the time. They need the society to make them feel better about themselves. Roles, as i call it.

Also you forgot why i mention this.

ZacAdam wrote:Why people are pissed off? especially young men today and boys........
It's because they say no to people like Noitard but then do otherwise when facing the same situation.


We are men. We all bullshit other men. Often by unawareness (no one knows) or it's a strategy (unspoken truth/rules)...... This is why a lot of young men, or men in general, are pissed off. They don't know what is real. I am just showing them both sides of the coin. Which clearly you do not understand.

Maybe i forget to put: This is my opinion and there's always risk but oh well. Not to mention how girls treat you like shit because you DIDN't FUCK THE SHIT OUTTA THEM. (oh ho ho, a secret i just tell again)

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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby Overdoze » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:40 am

ZacAdam: i wasnt writing to you but to OP
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Re: Seduction in a Doctor's Office

Postby ZacAdam » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:50 am

Gosta Bue wrote:ZacAdam: i wasnt writing to you but to OP


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p.s: :) Good comeback. *claps sarcastically* XD
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