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naturalmikey

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2 years ago on fourth of july weekend this girl drove over an hour to meet me from orange county. we hung out at the santa monica pier, got ice cream. i took her home and fucked her and never saw her again, unsurprisingly. i actually felt bad. she must have felt really desperate driving over an hour to get laid. whatever, i've driven an hour to get laid and i didn't feel desperate. i guess it's all how we react to things.

anyway i was 35 at the time. this chick was 19. i put zero moves on her and just acted chill and when we got in my bed to watch a movie she kissed me. i pulled away and she was like "oh you're a tease." she then turned her back on me. i grabbed her and kissed her passionately. within ten seconds of having sex she had put my hand on her throat. i was thinking "i was about to do that." i've never seen someone be dominant in being submissive like that, and she was 19.

the funny part is she's a baker. that's her passion and what she wants to do for life. she is the sweetest most innocent seeming girl you could ever meet. we had really just an amazing day. and then she just became crazy sexual.

the moral of the story is beautiful, sweet, innocent young girls will drive an hour to be seduced by an exciting lover. she knew what she was getting into. i seduced her heavily over texts. i would pull her in and push her away. i insulted her at times and praised her during others. she knew that she was going to get with me what other guys wouldn't give her. after we kissed goodbye and she left never to be seen again. it was only seven pm. i put on a movie, grabbed a glass of wine and smoked a joint and called it a day.

you have to be something special that other guys aren't. if you can do that you can get girls to drive a long way.

one more story to illustrate my point. i'll post our tinder conversation as i still have it saved.

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this girl was about 45 minutes away with no traffic, and there's always traffic. she first came over on a sunday evening in october of 2017.
at this time i must've been 35. yeah, it was a few months after the fourth of july hookup.
she shows up, after driving probably an hour, and she is early. she texts me when she gets to the bar. i had just moved to the area and only knew of one bar that i'd always go to. and she went to the other one, called the otheroom. she had ordered a ipa by the time i got there. my first impression of her was that she was a lot cooler than me. i guess it didn't show because she would say and do things to try to impress me beginning quite early. it was awkward at first actually. probably because i'm an extremely awkward person, but am totally okay with it which freaks people out a bit. anyway we venue changed to my favorite local bar the brig.

at the brig we get on the pool table and the gods were in our favor. i'm okay and she was decent for a girl. we started winning for like the perfect amount of times. like four in a row. we were on the same team and winning. that's great on a first date. by the time the excitement wore off we lost. during the game i would high five her trying to get any compliance at all. the first time i tried to get a high five she looked at me like a total weirdo.

there was absolutely no sexual chemistry on this date. it was kinda frustrating. we were at a bar, it seemed like she was having fun, but i was feeling no warmth or connection. but she intrigued me and she was very good looking. eventually she said "i think i'm gonna go home i have to fly to hawaii at 5 am." and this is like at 11 pm. i'm like "great." but she'd paid for all her own drinks and i'd had fun so i didn't really give a shit.

she's driving me home and when i get to the block my house was on at the time i told her i live right up here if you wanna come in. she was like "no, i've gotta be up early." i didn't say a word. when we got in front of my house i pointed at it and said "that's my house if you wanna come in." my house was a shithole on the outside. it's in a weird part of venice beach that used to be super hood. this was one of the old hood houses, but it had been remodeled on the inside. but the outside was bad. anyway i wasn't using a cool house to lure her in. surprisingly she said "yeah but i can't stay long."

i put on wonder woman which led to sex quite often during that time. something about female empowerment or something just made women horny. i got laid so many times to that movie. anyway she asked me to rub her back, we hooked up, and she left at three to drive an hour away and get her shit and then drive to airport which ironically is like 15 minutes from my house. she shoulda packed a bag and brought it with her.

i told her that there were a lot of car breakins in my neighborhood so to bring in valuables. i was talking about like a computer or something. she starts bringing bags full of designer clothes and shoes. like thousands of dollars in clothing every time she came over. she went to all the world series games, was constantly traveling, and was clearly spending a lot of money on clothes. i was casually dating a high end escort. i had no money at the time either. i could tell she would get very frustrated by this. to make matters worse i don't think after that compliment on tinder i ever complimented her again. and she chased me so hard. she'd hit me up at like 10pm most nights wanting to come over. then she ghosted me for a week. i didn't respond and then she just came back like nothing happened. i was just like "i guess this is what it's like dating an escort."

the thing that really disappointed me about it all was the sex sucked. she was so desensitized from selling her body that it just wasn't very good. i don't really initiate sex and neither did she. so we would usually only sleep together once per time we'd hang out. just not exciting. i did like hanging out with her though. i had just moved to venice and having my main chick be this smoking hot tall latina that looked like she shouldve been in a rap video was pretty cool. i know people looked at us like look at these two they don't look like they match. she had so many tattoos and was seriously a lot cooler than me.

anyway on her birthday she went out and had a table at nightclub. she had been texting me since nine to come like a needy little child. i got there at 11 and she was wasted. she ended up being on some other guy so i left. the next day she called me and apologized. i thought it was disrespectful so i told her i had fucked my neighbor the night before. not that it really mattered, she was an escort and it was all so petty. but she freaked out. i remember on her birthday she had this really sexy dress on that would've looked great. but she was wasted and her tags were hanging out and she looked so trashy. i told her that on the phone and then she really flipped. she hung up the phone and i never heard from her again. great girl though. just very damaged.

honestly as long as i would've played it cool i don't think i could mess it up. for some reason my opener caught her attention and her response was actually really funny. we kinda started off teasing each other. it's a short convo which actually has her go silent twice for 5 days or more. the first time she finally responds a week later. the second time after 5 days i put ....? how many other guys are patient enough to play it cool for 12 days of radio silence with a beautiful woman. that's what i love about beautiful women. every guy is trying so hard and they just wanna be seduced.
 

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naturalmikey said:
you should post your profile. i bet you need better pics.

I’d love to, but I’m a private person. Sure I could use better pics, but do pics really matter for the conversation aspect?

I thought it was just for you to get your foot in the door and to get her to match with you.

My text game is trash it seems. I noticed that a girl said something about you being shirtless, so I’m guessing you’re in shape, which makes things a lot easier.

Shit is confusing, I could say the same thing you did, with the interesting opener, and I would get a shitty reply or no reply.

Girls have said they like my pics, so I think they’re ok for now. I don’t have the time or money to take pro pics, and I’m also working on my body too.

My game needs some tweaking until I can get these pics.
 

JacobPalmer

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Sub-Zero said:
naturalmikey said:
you should post your profile. i bet you need better pics.

I’d love to, but I’m a private person. Sure I could use better pics, but do pics really matter for the conversation aspect?

I thought it was just for you to get your foot in the door and to get her to match with you.

My text game is trash it seems. I noticed that a girl said something about you being shirtless, so I’m guessing you’re in shape, which makes things a lot easier.

Shit is confusing, I could say the same thing you did, with the interesting opener, and I would get a shitty reply or no reply.

Girls have said they like my pics, so I think they’re ok for now. I don’t have the time or money to take pro pics, and I’m also working on my body too.

My game needs some tweaking until I can get these pics.

Pictures matter for 80+% of online game, so yes, even they matter for the conversation aspect. Yes it still plays a part in getting her to match you, but if you have great pictures and they make you look amazing, she'll be more inclined to answer/make conversation with you.

Definitely get a shirtless pic (a tasteful one, not a gym selfie/mirror selfie), and yes, get in shape. Improve those fundamentals.

If you said the same thing and get no reply.....then it's your pictures. But.....have you even tried? And how many times?
 

naturalmikey

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here’s an example of my profile. i modified a bio of rsd jeffy that i found funny. tremendous success with this style. it’s a ridiculous bio and pictures all shot with an iphone x in portrait mode or a dslr camera.

fwiw tinder is the number one motivator for me to stay in shape. if i don’t look good enough for a shirtless pic i’m not gonna use tinder.
 

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JacobPalmer said:
Sub-Zero said:
naturalmikey said:
you should post your profile. i bet you need better pics.

I’d love to, but I’m a private person. Sure I could use better pics, but do pics really matter for the conversation aspect?

I thought it was just for you to get your foot in the door and to get her to match with you.

My text game is trash it seems. I noticed that a girl said something about you being shirtless, so I’m guessing you’re in shape, which makes things a lot easier.

Shit is confusing, I could say the same thing you did, with the interesting opener, and I would get a shitty reply or no reply.

Girls have said they like my pics, so I think they’re ok for now. I don’t have the time or money to take pro pics, and I’m also working on my body too.

My game needs some tweaking until I can get these pics.

Pictures matter for 80+% of online game, so yes, even they matter for the conversation aspect. Yes it still plays a part in getting her to match you, but if you have great pictures and they make you look amazing, she'll be more inclined to answer/make conversation with you.

Definitely get a shirtless pic (a tasteful one, not a gym selfie/mirror selfie), and yes, get in shape. Improve those fundamentals.

If you said the same thing and get no reply.....then it's your pictures. But.....have you even tried? And how many times?

Like I asked a chick what she was looking for and how’s dating been, or I said I like her tattoo or eyes, nothing.

I will work on the pics and body, but I’m still getting matches as we speak and I want to get my text game better.


The girl that I said the I’m all about love thing too.

Would it be good to say she looks stylish in a dress and where she’s from? Or no? Or I say her name, then say she looks very stylish in her blue dress? Does that work?

What if she gives me a thanks or doesn’t reply to that?

What am I supposed to say?

I’m looking for more things to be specific about, but I still get no answer. Then if I get a short answer I don’t know what to talk about.

Like I said this is recent so I’m confused. Other girls would tell me a lot of information about themselves in convo, but now these girls are short.

The girls I talked to before looked good, I mostly talk to good looking girls.

So the basics are to find something unique to say, then what?
 

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naturalmikey said:
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here’s an example of my profile. i modified a bio of rsd jeffy that i found funny. tremendous success with this style. it’s a ridiculous bio and pictures all shot with an iphone x in portrait mode or a dslr camera.

fwiw tinder is the number one motivator for me to stay in shape. if i don’t look good enough for a shirtless pic i’m not gonna use tinder.


Thanks for posting your profile, yeah, so imma work on getting in better shape, which I am now.

I just need to work on my text game in the mean time while working on getting my body in shape.

I mean I am muscular, but I have fat to lose.

Women have complimented me on my big chest, hair, and other things. So there’s some positives there.

I see your convos are more straight to the point, I’ll try that too.

I’ve tried it and a lot of them talking about they want to date and have boyfriends. So idk.
 

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Ok y’all, imma calm down on my anger.

I have to think to myself in their shoes, even though I do feel I shouldn’t have my text left unanswered. There is something I have to work on or the girls are just wasting time.

I want to work on what I have to work on and excel with it.

I pictured all of my matches messaging at once and I couldn’t imagine replying to all of them, so I do understand about messaging.

I mean I would try to reply to all of them because I want to fuck them all of course.

But I’ll keep working on this because at least I'm getting something, I just gotta fix something.

I appreciate all the help guys!!
 

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Like I asked a chick what she was looking for and how’s dating been, or I said I like her tattoo or eyes, nothing.

This is still so boring Sub. Yes that line worked for naturalmickey, but he also has a decent bio and he's pretty good looking. But, and no offense to naturalmickey, you're taking 2 examples he showed you as the end all be all. Anything CAN work, but is it highly effective? Who knows what the response rate/success rate he had was. AND, more importantly, you're not listening to the feedback these girls are giving you. You say they're not responding even with these openers like "how's the online dating world going, nice tattoo" etc, but to me it sounds exactly the same as all your other openers.

You're getting a bit more specific.....but now focus on it being more fun and more special to her.

I know you've got lots of questions....but I don't have the time or energy to write out the conversations for you Sub. :) Listen, if you want a general feel for good texting read my LR, it's pretty text heavy, hopefully you can pick up some things there.
 

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JacobPalmer said:
Like I asked a chick what she was looking for and how’s dating been, or I said I like her tattoo or eyes, nothing.

This is still so boring Sub. Yes that line worked for naturalmickey, but he also has a decent bio and he's pretty good looking. But, and no offense to naturalmickey, you're taking 2 examples he showed you as the end all be all. Anything CAN work, but is it highly effective? Who knows what the response rate/success rate he had was. AND, more importantly, you're not listening to the feedback these girls are giving you. You say they're not responding even with these openers like "how's the online dating world going, nice tattoo" etc, but to me it sounds exactly the same as all your other openers.

You're getting a bit more specific.....but now focus on it being more fun and more special to her.

I know you've got lots of questions....but I don't have the time or energy to write out the conversations for you Sub. :) Listen, if you want a general feel for good texting read my LR, it's pretty text heavy, hopefully you can pick up some things there.


Ok I’ll read the reports, but how could I make what I said or anything in general more fun and special to the girl?

If a girl has on a blue dress, I say “ xxx you look very stylish in that blue dress, it looks amazing on you” what can I add to that?
 

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Ok I’ll read the reports, but how could I make what I said or anything in general more fun and special to the girl?

If a girl has on a blue dress, I say “ xxx you look very stylish in that dress” what can I add to that?

It's just 1 report. :) Called LR - Ms. Moldova

Well the good news is you're on the right track with that opener, but it doesn't lead the convo anywhere, because she's most likely going to say, "Thanks" or some variation of that, and there's only a chance she actually starts the convo. But again, it's all very contextual, like, how old is she, how hot is she, are all her pictures the same where she's dressed up, all selfies, no selfies, smiling/not smiling etc. So I'd need a bit more information than that. But if I'm just using the blue dress as an example and it's her only picture....

You could still use your opener, but modify it a bit.

"XXX, you look so stylish in that blue dress. :) Were you off to the Gala that night or just getting into trouble with the girls?"

Other things you could maybe say:

"Blue looks amazing on you XXX. :) Going to wear that colour scheme on our first date?"
"Wow, you look stunning in that blue dress XXX. :) Where were you off to that night?"

So just add a small question to the end of it that shows you're curious about her.
 

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JacobPalmer said:
Ok I’ll read the reports, but how could I make what I said or anything in general more fun and special to the girl?

If a girl has on a blue dress, I say “ xxx you look very stylish in that dress” what can I add to that?

It's just 1 report. :) Called LR - Ms. Moldova

Well the good news is you're on the right track with that opener, but it doesn't lead the convo anywhere, because she's most likely going to say, "Thanks" or some variation of that, and there's only a chance she actually starts the convo. But again, it's all very contextual, like, how old is she, how hot is she, are all her pictures the same where she's dressed up, all selfies, no selfies, smiling/not smiling etc. So I'd need a bit more information than that. But if I'm just using the blue dress as an example and it's her only picture....

You could still use your opener, but modify it a bit.

"XXX, you look so stylish in that blue dress. :) Were you off to the Gala that night or just getting into trouble with the girls?"

Other things you could maybe say:

"Blue looks amazing on you XXX. :) Going to wear that colour scheme on our first date?"
"Wow, you look stunning in that blue dress XXX. :) Where were you off to that night?"

So just add a small question to the end of it that shows you're curious about her.

Early 20s, sexy smile in most, one pic has a regular smile, she’s hot lol, pictures aren’t the same, most show whole body, not wearing a dress, but she dresses nice in them. She has a smiling selfie.

Lemme see what you can come up with with that lol

I like the examples you gave me already, I wonder what you can come up with with the information I gave you.

These openers sound really good.
 

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Go with the dress opener then and see what happens. It's probably the best bet as everything else sounds fairly normal based on her pictures. I'd go with the first or last one personally. Let's see how it goes.
 

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notice how little i give a shit. i never even texted that girl.

but think about what i sent her. i told her that i was sobering up from day drinking to go to the bar. her bio said something about ruining each other's life so i played into that with degenerate game. and a degenerate really doesn't give a fuck. so she had already framed a very easy interaction. also notice that she always responds to me immediately. i then disappear for i don't know how long,but long enough for the little time thing to come back. it's good to be less invested in the conversation than she is.

i will admit i'm attractive. but these aren't like girls way below my standards that are just throwing themselves at me. i'm gaming high quality women over text. anyone can do it.
 

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You need good fundamentals to use these apps and get dates. Hector did a video on the Girlschase Youtube channel about how he got a date within 2 or 3 very low effort texts. What Hector has, however, is top tier fundamentals. Judging by how these chats went, it looks like you, just like me, do not have top tier fundamentals. No it doesn't matter if they matched with you first. Your results tell us everything we need to know about your fundamentals. I got dates from these apps but I had to use very carefully constructed text messages to get the woman invested and really find some interesting stuff about her. That's what guys with poor fundamentals have to do. So yes, these "what are you up to", messaging but nothing but jokes past the opener, "what u up to" are just useless. On a dating app, one poor text and you're out. One punctuation mark that conveys the wrong message and you're done. Too long a pause between messages if she is there reading them live and you're out. Wait too long to ask her out and you're out. Ask her out too soon and you're out. Give her a question that's too much effort for her to answer at the time and you're out.

Those are the rules. If you don't like them, there's the door. Walk out and go talk to women in real life! Then you'll get instant feedback. Finally, please stop with the "bitches", "dumb bitches" etc. That's passive aggression. Here on Girlschase the first rule is that women are normal humans and not out to get you. The results that you're getting are just feedback for YOU.


You can say I have bad fundamentals all you want, whatever makes you happy. There’s many people who don’t get any type of matches at all, and I didn’t put in any work in my profile at all, my pics aren’t high quality, there’s no bio, I just put some random pics up and that was it.

I have had girls compliment my body from what they see in my profile, I don’t even have full body pics, just face pics barely showing my whole body. The fact I’m getting so many matches should mean something, but if it doesn’t to you that’s fine.

The only thing I can really change is getting a six pack and taking professional photos that’s the only thing I could do.

I have also wrote in here of girls feeling all over me, kissing me, etc. in person as well.

I never said I had top tier fundamentals, but I will tell you I’m not a bum and my fundamentals have gotten me further than any game or personality did.

I dress nice, I walk slow and calm and talk clear and calm, I have a muscular body, I’m not in tip top shape yet, gotta lose some weight. I mean what else can I work on? The only fundamental is getting my body fat down a certain percentage and getting more muscles and a six pack.

Maybe you’re talking about my game? Maybe my game needs work, but I have worked hard in my fundamentals for a while and have always gotten compliments for them.

And there isn’t any passive aggressiveness, if I call them that that’s what I do to relive stress, if it bothers y’all, then fine I won’t say it anymore.

I'm not trying to say bad things about your fundamentals. I'm just saying that your results online are equal to your fundamentals. They are equivalent. So if you're not getting results online, it is your fundamentals. Look at Hector and naturalmikey. They have top top fundamentals. You can't just work yourself up to that by getting muscles and a six pack. You have it or you do not. If you do, get better photos to show it. If not, consider moving off dating apps. "What are you looking for" followed by date request is very likely to only work with the right fundamentals. The woman on Tinder asked him "where do you live". Stuff like that only happens with the right fundamentals. So please stop looking at your texts as if they're wrong. They literally can not be wrong if you have good fundamentals and can not be right if you have poor fundamentals. Lacking the fundamentals, myself and many guys have chosen not to use apps. Consider it or consider the other stuff that I've suggested. It's likely that you're going to need a lot more in your texts than naturalmikey and lots of matches on whom to perfect your script.
 

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strictlyincreasing said:
Sub-Zero said:
strictlyincreasing said:
You need good fundamentals to use these apps and get dates. Hector did a video on the Girlschase Youtube channel about how he got a date within 2 or 3 very low effort texts. What Hector has, however, is top tier fundamentals. Judging by how these chats went, it looks like you, just like me, do not have top tier fundamentals. No it doesn't matter if they matched with you first. Your results tell us everything we need to know about your fundamentals. I got dates from these apps but I had to use very carefully constructed text messages to get the woman invested and really find some interesting stuff about her. That's what guys with poor fundamentals have to do. So yes, these "what are you up to", messaging but nothing but jokes past the opener, "what u up to" are just useless. On a dating app, one poor text and you're out. One punctuation mark that conveys the wrong message and you're done. Too long a pause between messages if she is there reading them live and you're out. Wait too long to ask her out and you're out. Ask her out too soon and you're out. Give her a question that's too much effort for her to answer at the time and you're out.

Those are the rules. If you don't like them, there's the door. Walk out and go talk to women in real life! Then you'll get instant feedback. Finally, please stop with the "bitches", "dumb bitches" etc. That's passive aggression. Here on Girlschase the first rule is that women are normal humans and not out to get you. The results that you're getting are just feedback for YOU.


You can say I have bad fundamentals all you want, whatever makes you happy. There’s many people who don’t get any type of matches at all, and I didn’t put in any work in my profile at all, my pics aren’t high quality, there’s no bio, I just put some random pics up and that was it.

I have had girls compliment my body from what they see in my profile, I don’t even have full body pics, just face pics barely showing my whole body. The fact I’m getting so many matches should mean something, but if it doesn’t to you that’s fine.

The only thing I can really change is getting a six pack and taking professional photos that’s the only thing I could do.

I have also wrote in here of girls feeling all over me, kissing me, etc. in person as well.

I never said I had top tier fundamentals, but I will tell you I’m not a bum and my fundamentals have gotten me further than any game or personality did.

I dress nice, I walk slow and calm and talk clear and calm, I have a muscular body, I’m not in tip top shape yet, gotta lose some weight. I mean what else can I work on? The only fundamental is getting my body fat down a certain percentage and getting more muscles and a six pack.

Maybe you’re talking about my game? Maybe my game needs work, but I have worked hard in my fundamentals for a while and have always gotten compliments for them.

And there isn’t any passive aggressiveness, if I call them that that’s what I do to relive stress, if it bothers y’all, then fine I won’t say it anymore.

I'm not trying to say bad things about your fundamentals. I'm just saying that your results online are equal to your fundamentals. They are equivalent. So if you're not getting results online, it is your fundamentals. Look at Hector and naturalmikey. They have top top fundamentals. You can't just work yourself up to that by getting muscles and a six pack. You have it or you do not. If you do, get better photos to show it. If not, consider moving off dating apps. "What are you looking for" followed by date request is very likely to only work with the right fundamentals. The woman on Tinder asked him "where do you live". Stuff like that only happens with the right fundamentals. So please stop looking at your texts as if they're wrong. They literally can not be wrong if you have good fundamentals and can not be right if you have poor fundamentals. Lacking the fundamentals, myself and many guys have chosen not to use apps. Consider it or consider the other stuff that I've suggested. It's likely that you're going to need a lot more in your texts than naturalmikey and lots of matches on whom to perfect your script.

What do you mean you have it or you don’t? Chase made a whole website about working on your fundamentals? If you have it or you don’t there would be no girls chase.

Dude I’m not telling you bullshit, I’m telling you facts that I have heard since I was born, I never brag or anything, but I will tell you that girls have always chased me and always complimented me on my looks, how I dress, my charisma, etc.

I messed up being picky and never having to learn game.

Like I said if you feel that it’s my fundamentals and I can never improve them, that’s fine, but I have way too many positive reference points in my life to tell me different.

I’m not just saying this to make myself feel happy, that’s why I’m angry about things now, if all these girls say this why is this difficult then? It is something that isn’t normal.

Are you saying that they have top tier fundamentals on your own or are you saying that because of the girls.

Because I want to know what you think top tier fundamentals are exactly.

Chase has a whole category of fundamentals, so if it was only you have it or you don’t, this website wouldn’t have a category on it.

One dude I know got married off online and he got rejected his whole life, never learned game, never improved his fundamentals, virgin, etc.

If he would have listened to you, he wouldn’t have gotten a wife.

Like I said I will continue to get my body in shape, take better pictures when I get a chance, use these all these girls I match with as practice, and focus more on doing game outside.

I’m not giving up on apps, I know I can make it work, and that will be another avenue for me to have when I want it.
 

JacobPalmer

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Hell yes Sub, you're going to get it. :)

Just takes time and practice, and some calibration. You got this.
 

Sub-Zero

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JacobPalmer said:
Hell yes Sub, you're going to get it. :)

Just takes time and practice, and some calibration. You got this.

Appreciate my man!! let’s get it!!
 

strictlyincreasing

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Sub-Zero said:
strictlyincreasing said:
Sub-Zero said:
strictlyincreasing said:
You need good fundamentals to use these apps and get dates. Hector did a video on the Girlschase Youtube channel about how he got a date within 2 or 3 very low effort texts. What Hector has, however, is top tier fundamentals. Judging by how these chats went, it looks like you, just like me, do not have top tier fundamentals. No it doesn't matter if they matched with you first. Your results tell us everything we need to know about your fundamentals. I got dates from these apps but I had to use very carefully constructed text messages to get the woman invested and really find some interesting stuff about her. That's what guys with poor fundamentals have to do. So yes, these "what are you up to", messaging but nothing but jokes past the opener, "what u up to" are just useless. On a dating app, one poor text and you're out. One punctuation mark that conveys the wrong message and you're done. Too long a pause between messages if she is there reading them live and you're out. Wait too long to ask her out and you're out. Ask her out too soon and you're out. Give her a question that's too much effort for her to answer at the time and you're out.

Those are the rules. If you don't like them, there's the door. Walk out and go talk to women in real life! Then you'll get instant feedback. Finally, please stop with the "bitches", "dumb bitches" etc. That's passive aggression. Here on Girlschase the first rule is that women are normal humans and not out to get you. The results that you're getting are just feedback for YOU.


You can say I have bad fundamentals all you want, whatever makes you happy. There’s many people who don’t get any type of matches at all, and I didn’t put in any work in my profile at all, my pics aren’t high quality, there’s no bio, I just put some random pics up and that was it.

I have had girls compliment my body from what they see in my profile, I don’t even have full body pics, just face pics barely showing my whole body. The fact I’m getting so many matches should mean something, but if it doesn’t to you that’s fine.

The only thing I can really change is getting a six pack and taking professional photos that’s the only thing I could do.

I have also wrote in here of girls feeling all over me, kissing me, etc. in person as well.

I never said I had top tier fundamentals, but I will tell you I’m not a bum and my fundamentals have gotten me further than any game or personality did.

I dress nice, I walk slow and calm and talk clear and calm, I have a muscular body, I’m not in tip top shape yet, gotta lose some weight. I mean what else can I work on? The only fundamental is getting my body fat down a certain percentage and getting more muscles and a six pack.

Maybe you’re talking about my game? Maybe my game needs work, but I have worked hard in my fundamentals for a while and have always gotten compliments for them.

And there isn’t any passive aggressiveness, if I call them that that’s what I do to relive stress, if it bothers y’all, then fine I won’t say it anymore.

I'm not trying to say bad things about your fundamentals. I'm just saying that your results online are equal to your fundamentals. They are equivalent. So if you're not getting results online, it is your fundamentals. Look at Hector and naturalmikey. They have top top fundamentals. You can't just work yourself up to that by getting muscles and a six pack. You have it or you do not. If you do, get better photos to show it. If not, consider moving off dating apps. "What are you looking for" followed by date request is very likely to only work with the right fundamentals. The woman on Tinder asked him "where do you live". Stuff like that only happens with the right fundamentals. So please stop looking at your texts as if they're wrong. They literally can not be wrong if you have good fundamentals and can not be right if you have poor fundamentals. Lacking the fundamentals, myself and many guys have chosen not to use apps. Consider it or consider the other stuff that I've suggested. It's likely that you're going to need a lot more in your texts than naturalmikey and lots of matches on whom to perfect your script.

What do you mean you have it or you don’t? Chase made a whole website about working on your fundamentals? If you have it or you don’t there would be no girls chase.

Dude I’m not telling you bullshit, I’m telling you facts that I have heard since I was born, I never brag or anything, but I will tell you that girls have always chased me and always complimented me on my looks, how I dress, my charisma, etc.

I messed up being picky and never having to learn game.

Like I said if you feel that it’s my fundamentals and I can never improve them, that’s fine, but I have way too many positive reference points in my life to tell me different.

I’m not just saying this to make myself feel happy, that’s why I’m angry about things now, if all these girls say this why is this difficult then? It is something that isn’t normal.

Are you saying that they have top tier fundamentals on your own or are you saying that because of the girls.

Because I want to know what you think top tier fundamentals are exactly.

Chase has a whole category of fundamentals, so if it was only you have it or you don’t, this website wouldn’t have a category on it.

One dude I know got married off online and he got rejected his whole life, never learned game, never improved his fundamentals, virgin, etc.

If he would have listened to you, he wouldn’t have gotten a wife.

Like I said I will continue to get my body in shape, take better pictures when I get a chance, use these all these girls I match with as practice, and focus more on doing game outside.

I’m not giving up on apps, I know I can make it work, and that will be another avenue for me to have when I want it.

naturalmikey is over 6' tall, has a full head of hair over the age of 35 and is white. That makes top tier fundamentals on the apps. (Fundamentals in real life are different). You can't work to get those fundamentals; you have them or you do not. Add a little bit of work on your fundamentals, which naturalmikey did, and you have a Tinder bio capable of getting almost unlimited matches, dates and lays. Many many people have noticed a discrepancy between their online fundamentals and real life ones because, in real life, all the things that Chase mentioned in his articles matter. Online, you either have the fundamentals or you do not. So if you do not, I advise that you go out and learn cold approach instead. Don't be like me beating a dead horse by using these apps and getting FUs for 2 years straight..
 
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