Oh Pry said:
I'd argue that of all the types of methods, social circle is probably the most difficult. I don't mean tough to get hot girls from but tough to actually get going.
Yes, this is probably a true statement.
Oh Pry said:
For the most part, it is down to the people you grew up with and what you did in college, after that you have to kind of get lucky to some degree and hopefully make a good friend or two in order to make it happen.
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I'll still say, it is the toughest method to get going because so much of it is really down to luck and circumstances than your own doing.
No; you have a large degree of control over this. Some of my friends who do extremely well in social circle game simply go out and meet people at social events, and they are extremely extroverted and make friends easily with the right people.
So yes, it is difficult to do this because you have to be the "right" type of guy, or
train yourself to become that type of guy. But the fact that you can even "become" that type of guy removes most of the elements of "luck" and moves them over to the category of "effort and ability," just like cold approach or online game.
Oh Pry said:
Guys who do not have a good online presence are going to be fucked by the game because we are effectively moving toward the social media age even more, in most industries you cannot get a job without having LinkedIn.
I don't think this is the case either. I have mostly removed my online presence (I don't use Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat anymore) and still have had very few issues getting laid. I think the
average guy with no
researched knowledge about women (i.e. GirlsChase, Red Pill, etc.) will
definitely struggle more after college without some "online game" skills, but that's mostly because they don't even see cold approach as a real thing, or an option. Nor do they know how to endlessly extend their social circle properly (which is something that can also be done with effort and knowledge).
Oh Pry said:
Daygame is the toughest and most awkward to actually do but a lot more doable than night game which is easier to do per the alcohol. You do need a lot of courage and it will test your approach anxiety. Chase has a great post on it and I do believe it can lead to some quality opportunities if you have good fundamentals. No matter how many times I try it though, I probably get the most anxiety from it. Not the easiest thing to master by any means.
I do agree that day game is the most difficult type of "game." It's the only type of game that I don't do, and it indeed simply comes down to approach anxiety first and foremost. I often have the most admiration for the guys who are capable of meeting attractive women through this means (and this includes both Hector and Varoon who are now friends of mine in real life).
Oh Pry said:
Night game in my opinion and experience is largely a waste of time. The reason I say that is because most of the hottest girls or even above average looking girls head out in pairs or groups, you have to deal with cockblocking to the max.
I met my current girlfriend of nearly six years through night game, and I have had countless lays with other attractive women through it. It is very far away from being a waste of time!
Also, just like any other form of "game," there are methods and tactics you can use to avoid the obstacles you mention. When I met my girlfriend, she had just arrived with two of her friends. I approached her when she left them to go order a drink at the bar by herself, and she ended up spending the next 30 minutes or so with me before going back to her friends.
That was not random luck. I was purposely positioned at the bar to approach girls who break off from their friend groups so that I could avoid the cockblocking.
Oh Pry said:
At a lot of the nightclubs, it is too loud for you to even talk and show off your fundamentals other than looking good and dancing well.
Not at all. I actually
stopped doing "dancing" game once I discovered GC because I found it to be MUCH better to approach girls at the bar or in the smoking areas. Some of my best lays from night game have come from completely avoiding the dance floor area for the entire night. And this was all planned "tactics;" it was not random luck.
Likewise, there are "methods" and "tactics" for dealing with the noise. I pull girls closely into me by putting my hand around their waist and then talk directly into their ears, often getting as close as possible and grazing their ears with my mouth to create a sense of sexual tension, which essentially gives the girl a "green light" to talk directly into my ear by touching HER mouth to MY ear. I've done this numerous times, so this was
also not "luck."
Oh Pry said:
I'd say for quality and in terms of difficulty, night game is probably the worst unless you are gaming outside of bars or in lounges where people can actually hear you. I hate yelling over people just to talk to the girl.
My girlfriend is roughly a 9.5 in terms of looks, and I met her in a very noisy nightclub at the bar that was located directly in front of the dance floor and close to the DJ.
Keep in mind that just because
your experience with something has been negative does not mean that
everyone's experience with it should also be negative. People in both sports and eSports have this same mentality:
I've tried doing this thing and had a bad experience, so it means it doesn't work or is no good. And then you find the pro players using that
exact same technique/method or that exact same hero/champion (in the case of eSports) and decimating the opposition at a "pro" level.
That's when you realize it wasn't the method that was bad, it was simply your use of the method that did not get good results because of poor execution.
As a summary, it's good to test things on your own to come to your own conclusions about certain methodologies and ways of taking action that improve your life. But always keep in mind that just because it didn't work for
you doesn't mean it didn't work for
someone else. Always keep your eyes peeled for guys who are doing exactly what you said couldn't be done -- that's how you keep your mind open and your options strong.
Cheers,
Franco