Sub-Zero said:
Thanks for the explanation Cody, I thought no one would answer, glad you did lol.
I noticed something tho, you can never really devote all your time to girls unless you don't work or go to school which I doubt many men would do.
Even as a teen you have to be in school 8 hours a day, you can still work on game, but you still have other things to focus on.
Same with a 9-5, but you can't work on your game as much.
My point Is that you're always doing something more than just getting girls and it'll mostly be second to many people because they have school or a job to go to and work on pick up after.
So I'm not too worried about how much time to put in to get good because I can still go to my job or school and pick up chicks when I'm done with it.
Cody, would you have any advice for an older college student?
Just do enough that it makes you sweat and try, thats really all you can do
Its all about thrusting yourself into its unknowns, getting your feet off the ground and tangling with it on a level beyond thinking step by step
Like... dont sit on the side of the stream and look at reflections in the surface of the water
Swim in it
The more you fully go into it, the more it'll fuck you up, but...
The way it screws you up makes you "more interesting"
For me, how Id describe it is like juggling
If you can juggle you can add like 15 balls if you are good enough (or something like that I'm not a juggler)
The better you get the more things you SEE in situations, the more issues you deal with, and so the more balls you juggle at once
It doesn't make you "better" than a guy juggling 3 balls, it just means you have a lot more flexibility with how you do things, but that flexibility requires a lot more maintenance
So, when you really dive in deep, you will get issues but you'll be juggling 5-9 balls or something like a total pro because of it
It'll be annoying but in a useful way
As I've gotten better, the amount of nonsense I deal with is crazy high...
So, I'll get 5 options of girls to take home on a night, but pick none of them because I'm juggling other needs at the same time
And the reason its only 5 rather than 20 or so options is cuz of some other stresses
And in the middle of that I'm trying to do 3 other things, like wing a dude, watch over some other people, not disappear randomly and leave em high and dry
While trying to adjust to culture differences, and a different inner monologue in the girls
While being observed and critiqued, WHILE I'm doing nuance stuff they won't understand anyway
And then some girl grabs your hand to get pulled and you let go knowing full well dudes wanna see you pull cuz...
Well you know youd sell yourself short and cant do that cuz... your past ex gfs were all stunners and itd be like a bitch slap to em to act like a chump
So, trying to balance dudes agendas, chicks agendas, cultures, expectations, logistics, options, reasons underlying those options, consequences of the choices around those options, maintaining frame over your own reasoning. Then some chick starts doing some crazy dance moves, so you do that for no reason knowing it goes nowhere... lol. xD
All while in the back of your head you are managing other girls very complex needs and stuff
And trying to pimp out your game so it can get to its fullest.
So yeah, its a juggling act
You don't want to search for a better technique, so much as the ability to internalise and apply multiple techniques
Cuz when I hit the zone, all those moving pieces turn into me having like ten ideas of how to shape the seduction and let me pick the most useful one from
The fastest, to the highest probability, to the least effort, to the most reward... for this or that outcome.
While other dudes be like "I just wanna pull a girl, any one"
But thats why its juggling. You CAN pull any one girl. But THAT will screw with your head, so you'll be juggling another ball of "what if i dont tho and i do this instead...". So you end up being just another juggler in the circus
Ultimately what is most satisfying is personalising your results and life to fit your own personality
Like for me, my sweet spot is, I talk to a girl I feel is a ten or close to it as far as all the factors are high quality and shes rare
And I just do a medium pace with things, very low commitment, talk over life with her, and then let her enjoy life shared through my perspective and addition
And that lets their mind fly free for a bit, and I'm at ease there like a captain at sea
So for me thats where all my time went into developing my skills
So I'd have a powerful effect on 1 set of girls when they were willing to be in 1 type of situation
For that I was willing to sacrifice everything else
So, that meant... I picked up certain very specific balls to juggle
The biggest one being consistency (I don't act out of character from my last relationship)
So I HAVE to turn down certain situations
Another one being constantly in tune with girl logic, so I can't just break off and go full guy mode, I think "oh no that means this n this and itll backfire like this cuz becky with the good hair will scream this then xyz will happen"
So my point is. How deep do YOU crave for. Cuz if its just slaying some girls on the weekends, you don't need to go that deep.
You need to go about as deep as like... you FEEL the sex in the air in the club. Like you can feel it in your body affecting you.
Chicks looks at you leave this mark or feeling. Cuz they are INFLUENCING you with all their attempts at jedi tricks.
If you are deep enough to FEEL all those marks on you, you'll start to sense the "sex culture" underlying that specific part of the country etc
Once you feel that itll be like the girls are telling you exactly how they go about having sex with men and for you to please follow the script
So... then you do
Boom, flood of girls then. You'll slay
For me, I can't do that... I fear it. If I open the slayer gates, I'm stuck rejecting 5 of em then I get tired and by the time I see a girl I like my energy is gone.
So yeah every persons feel of the scene should suit what they are after.