The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

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At a bar while the "white guys" are going around having fun and bantering with people. These guys are so shy and timid, they don't speak or just stare. I'm thinking of one guy in particular I know OBSESSED with blondes. He's a cool guy around guys but the second a woman is in the room he's a blathering mess, he just can't seem to see it. If you want blondes, be the guy the like (or any girl) and skin color is not the main factor.

I don't think you get it Estate. The game is just not the same when you're a minority going for white girls vs a white guy going for girls of minority groups. I won't get into the politics of it but just look at the cereal commercial that was shut down because no one wanted to see a black man with a white wife on it. Interracial couples featuring white men with women of color are commonly accepted and featured in media, not as much the other way around unless we're talking porn. That kind of racism tends to play a role in how women select men. Blonde white women with good looks are at the top of the American hierarchy when it comes to looks and desirability, men of minority groups are lower. America generally doesn't like seeing hot blondes with minorities, just refer back to the Terrell Owens commercial on Monday Night Football with the hot blonde and how much of an uproar it caused.

I lucked out due to living on the west coast where the racism isn't nearly as bad as other parts of the country but I don't think we can completely shun someone's lack of success with these women on just their game, looks, and fundamentals. When we whine about it though, we don't get anything accomplished. Rather what we should recommend is that if you really believe your fundamentals, game, and looks are on point but you can't do well with white girls as a minority, you might want to consider your location as being one of the major issues.
 

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Is there any chance we could just lock it now? All the info and debate is already here for anyone to read.

I'll chat with Franco. If we locked it, we'd have to blanket ban any "can't get XYZ race/type of girl" thread, since that's what this thread is here absorb, and there'd be no point locking one thread and starting another.

That might be good - not sure how much any further discussion of how to get blondes, or how to get Asians, or how to get rocker chicks with rose tattoos, or how to get ghetto chicks with weaves and extensions, or whatever is going to help anyone.

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It's a shame this is really the only seriously active topic on the forum.

That actually might be a good thing!

Most of those super long topics you see on most forums, if they aren't just "tell a funny story" or "share your favorite XYZ thing" are a bunch of people debating stuff with no conclusive answer. e.g., maybe they're debating ABC protein shake vs. DEF creatine powder or what have you. The culture here is more, "Well, here are the advantages of ABC protein shake, and here are the advantages of DEF creatine powder, and here are some of the downsides or complications of each - choose whichever you prefer."

This thread is an example of a disruption to the culture, where you have a small group of people with ideologically separate viewpoints from the main community on the boards, mostly searching for the magic pill answer. So you have a debate. The forum members say, "Here's what you have to do - now you just have to do the work." The group of guys with a certain girl on the pedestal go, "Sigh, no, I won't bother to do the work because I'm certain it won't work. Does anyone else have suggestions?" This is pretty frustrating toward most guys, but at the same time guys really want to help, and they're confident they can help, so they keep trying to help.

It'd be like if some skinny kid started chatting to you and was like, "Sigh, it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to put on muscle. I just can't do it." And you said, "Hey, do you lift bro? You should come to the gym with me tomorrow!" and he said, "Sigh, no, it wouldn't work. A doctor told me my muscles grow too slowly." So a second person says, "Dude, try it - just come to the gym for 90 days and see if you don't get stronger!" and he says, "Sigh, it would never work." So someone else says, "Tell you what - buy these 3 supplements, designed specifically for guys with weak muscles, and get some free weights and start doing exercises in your basement." And the guy says, "I tried one of those supplements once and it didn't work. So I quit after the first week because it was too expensive. Anyone else? What can I do to finally put on muscles? Or is it just HOPELESS for me?"

Of course, the answer is yes, it's hopeless if you won't do the work. Do the work, lots of hope. Don't do the work, no hope. Choose which path you want, motion or inertia, and get to it (or not).

Offhand, I can't think of too many ideas for what a good ongoing thread on the boards would be... it'd need to be something without a definitive answer, and something people really liked getting into and chatting about. Could be something like, "What's your ideal type of girl? Describe her as closely as possible," or whatever. Or something like, "Here's why I think XYZ technique works so crazy well." Or "What's your favorite way to make girls switch from 'conversational' to 'sexual' once you have them back at your place?" Threads like that could be a lot of fun, but no one really starts stuff like that here.

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Usually don't disagree with you Chase but getting hot girls and the kinds of girls you like (in this case blonde bombshells) is not really anything remotely close to bettering your life by good habits whether it be lifting or eating right. Over the years I have seen so many cases of guys who had nothing going for them in life and hardly much of a personality get hot girls, and this is especially true for blonde bombshell types, because they just happened to be in a certain college fraternity or they just happened to play a sport which was popular in the region. Maybe they grew up with the girl, knew her family, or they just made some lifestyle choice that directly put them into contact with her social circle which led to them winning out over better looking guys with better game than them.

As much as I am for betting yourself, improving your game, and doing everything to live the kind of sex life you want, I also realize that outside factors play a big role. You can have all the game on the planet and even above average looks but if you're an Asian guy in Alabama trying to get the hot blonde, an overweight white guy with hardly any game might just end up beating you. I hate it when people whine about race but I think there is a difference between whining and acknowledging realities.

PUAs will tell you it's all about your "game" and things like looks, status, and everything else hardly matters but that is not true.
Others will say it is all about your looks but we know that's not true either.

What makes the site so amazing is that it can analyze this on points that other sites just can't, we can talk about how race, looks, and other things might impact your results. We acknowledge that certain kinds of girls are different than others.

It would be truly sad to see this thread shut down, I feel that outside of the whining we can have quite a lot of productive discussions on here.
 

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I see a lot of allusions and references to college environments, so I'll take a stab at that.

Most college environments are insular and have a clique-y dynamic. If you're not recognized as part of the in-group or have strong ties to said group, you're seen as an outsider. Being part of that group, having social ties to that group, eg. fraternities with connections to sororities, friends with the president, the officers, etc. of the frat/sorority, gives you automatic social proof and a sense of shared values. You're "one of them".

Here's a scenario. You could be a very sexy, tall, well-dressed, smooth motherfucker that happens to walk into a college bar. You have the appearance of status, money and sexual value. Women in the bar steal glances at you and you can sense their interest and the tension between you. You move in, make a suave approach. She may entertain your advances, she'll talk with you, be very friendly and compliant... but once she's forced to make any major commitment (moving with you, physical escalation, etc.), she freezes you out. Makes an excuse. Walks away.

Why does this happen? Because even if she's attracted to you, and you're magnetic and charismatic... you're not part of the group. There's enormous social pressure being applied on these women. Because their friends are watching her, she has to maintain loyalty and save face and protect her reputation. That's why she'll date that "bro" who's not really that good-looking, or well put together, but he's outgoing, he's funny and he's an accepted member of the group (frat, social club). It has to do with relative value.

Even outside of college environments, my inclusion to certain groups makes me more appealing and a viable option to women who otherwise would've glossed over me. For example, when I hang out with my black friends, who are all relatively tall, smooth cats with chiseled physiques, I get the added benefit of appearing more sexual. It creates massive intrigue to women around us. "There's a large group of black men... and that one Chinese-looking guy... why is he with them?" Classic contrast principle at work. It's unusual to see Asian men with black men hanging out. Especially if I'm the only one. It boosts my relative value in certain women's eyes. Context is everything. I could be their fucking chauffeur for all they know. But people make these value judgments based on social groups and context.
 

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At a bar while the "white guys" are going around having fun and bantering with people. These guys are so shy and timid, they don't speak or just stare. I'm thinking of one guy in particular I know OBSESSED with blondes. He's a cool guy around guys but the second a woman is in the room he's a blathering mess, he just can't seem to see it. If you want blondes, be the guy the like (or any girl) and skin color is not the main factor.

I don't think you get it Estate. The game is just not the same when you're a minority going for white girls vs a white guy going for girls of minority groups. I won't get into the politics of it but just look at the cereal commercial that was shut down because no one wanted to see a black man with a white wife on it. Interracial couples featuring white men with women of color are commonly accepted and featured in media, not as much the other way around unless we're talking porn. That kind of racism tends to play a role in how women select men. Blonde white women with good looks are at the top of the American hierarchy when it comes to looks and desirability, men of minority groups are lower. America generally doesn't like seeing hot blondes with minorities, just refer back to the Terrell Owens commercial on Monday Night Football with the hot blonde and how much of an uproar it caused.

I lucked out due to living on the west coast where the racism isn't nearly as bad as other parts of the country but I don't think we can completely shun someone's lack of success with these women on just their game, looks, and fundamentals. When we whine about it though, we don't get anything accomplished. Rather what we should recommend is that if you really believe your fundamentals, game, and looks are on point but you can't do well with white girls as a minority, you might want to consider your location as being one of the major issues.

Honestly man. I do get your arguement. Just doing my best to relate to it.

i.e. x type of guy wants to meet y type of girl when guy x is not generally her type.

I mean. We're doing our best here to relate. I can't help what skin color o have. I'm just saying that everyone has their struggles. Like what you might describe as the "perfect" look... that guy will start another thread here saying he's too short or his eyes are the wrong color.

It's like... what can we do here? Either you go out and work on it or you post here complaining and getting no answers forever. What's it gonna be man?

I nean, I think you guys have the impression that just because guys here have a similar skin tone to a certain type of girl then those girls THROW themselves at us. It's just not true. Some will like us, some wont. That's life!

But going back to Anat man's point. The guys who don't do well are the ones I know and see in bars every week. They refuse to be the type of guy she wants. Yet they think it's their right to have those girls.THAT'S the big reason they can't get them.

I do understand Chases point it just feels like this is the only seriously active thread on here for a while now and it's going nowhere. It all boils down to... work on you self and meet hot girls. Don't work on yourself and just wallow in self pity forever. Those are the only options.

If you think moving is the right thing then why not do it and stop complaining. But I guarantee you. While some places might be more liberal than others. You're still not solving the real problem.
 

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I lucked out due to living on the west coast where the racism isn't nearly as bad as other parts of the country but I don't think we can completely shun someone's lack of success with these women on just their game, looks, and fundamentals.

Building off of Kenshin's quote here, we can't really account for all parts of the world on this topic. I certainly wouldn't doubt that areas like Alabama, Lousiana, and Mississippi are more likely to be more racist than the rest of the United States. That whole "Civil War" thing pretty much took place in that part of the country, and the North was the divided from the South. A lot of root beliefs stem from there, and on top of that, I've never lived or gamed there, so I won't try to make too many assumptions about what that is like.

All that I can tell you (and that Kenshin has touched upon here), is that the West coast doesn't seem to experience this to nearly the degree you guys make it out to be. And from what I've heard, outside of maybe girls in Texas whom also seem to be quite attractive, California has some of the best-looking women in this country.

If this is something that is so important to you that it completely drains you from being able to complete other important activities in your life, then I think the best course of action is to change locations to a place where it is proven that success can be had and maintained. I know Altair has mentioned that he can't move at the moment because he needs to finish school first, and that's fine. I would say to focus on your studies and really work hard to open up career possibilities so that you CAN move to the West coast and level up your ability with with women in general (and likely white/blonde women).

The only other concern I've seen on this thread is about "college life" somehow being the BEST time to meet and sleep with girls, and that is something I can say with one-hundred percent accuracy that it is NOT true. However, the disconnect there is not as easy to pinpoint as it seems. Here's the issue: are college girls the easiest to sleep with? Yes and No. I say YES because they are usually inexperienced but sexually curious women that can be seduced more easily than more experienced women. However, I say NO because of the stage most guys are AT when they are in college. Even the guys in fraternities who are getting laid PALE in comparison to how much they COULD be getting laid if they had the same amount of knowledge some guys have in their late 20s and early-to-mid 30s.

In other words, if I were to go back to college right now, I would probably clean up with girls because of the knowledge I have today. But that knowledge literally takes half of your 20s to acquire, so NO guys are cleaning up with women in college the way I COULD clean up with them if I were to go back right now. That time in college is spent fumbling around and missing 70% of your opportunities because you're learning. So don't think for a minute that there are guys in college who are having a "better" time than some of the best seducers in their late 20s and early 30s. It's not even a close comparison -- once you're truly GOOD, you don't miss the days when you were BAD. So with that in mind, focus on getting good as soon as possible so that you can start putting the bad behind you.

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Franco hitting the fine points as always. I should clarify so you can get the benefit of my point to you that around campus may simply have the most concentrated group of women. I didn't notice if your age was mentioned, but if it's approaching practice that's the key here, that could be a good area to check out. Personally, I love yoga teachers who have comfy furniture, wear dresses, and have have had more years of cooking practice than I've lived. This is less common on a campus. If you want spring-break-Barbie, just hit the areas where they're most concentrated and get practicing.

EDIT: Partial side note: interacting with experienced older women has been ridiculous for training up dominance. It's a special kind of hurt/fire to be vetted against successful established older men. As an early beginner who has simply read a lot, I also recommended you approach the scariest of the scariest, though make sure to gain some successes for encouragement to continue. Please remember to frame as the lover. Girls want to fuck and marry different dudes (or become a genuine man and be wanted for both), but society doesn't have to play in for the former.
 

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Even though college might be about in group vs out group, at my university, the hot blondes were not dating chubby guys of any color for the most part. The guys that got hot blondes were in amazing shape, a lot of the better fraternities even have a lifting requirement because they want the best looking guys in their brotherhood so girls can like that frat. That fat guy who said racist things about me behind my back would not get shit in my area even if he was in a frat, the better ones would likely not allow him in.

@ Franco

That is why I am completely against this thread being locked because we have not even touched on the issue of location as much. Like you, I have never really been to the south or gamed there so maybe southerners on Girlschase can offer their perspective but if my run in with the people I met from Atlanta is anything, I can definitely count my blessings that I am out west. We have to understand that minorities going after hot white girls are in a completely different situation from white guys going after hot girls of minority groups. For the most part, American culture just doesn't accept good looking white women going for non-whites, but I think that in some regions this animosity is hardly present while in others it is very strong.

So we're telling these guys to lift, be in great shape, run game, and improve themselves as much as they can but in my personal opinion, looking good and having game are not going to save you if you're some brown guy trying to game hot blondes in a place like Atlanta.

As for your point about college, you might not know as much but college offers you a lot of availability. You will never be around so many attractive girls that are single and available as you will be in college. You have more free time and less responsibilities to go along with it. It is practically a trade off, I wish an alternative to college existed for some older guys in terms of available girls.
 

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Kenshin,

As for your point about college, you might not know as much but college offers you a lot of availability. You will never be around so many attractive girls that are single and available as you will be in college. You have more free time and less responsibilities to go along with it. It is practically a trade off, I wish an alternative to college existed for some older guys in terms of available girls.

This isn't necessarily the case. I involve myself in so many activities in San Diego (and stretching to Los Angeles and Las Vegas) that put me around beautiful women so often that I don't even notice the difference. It's really about where you choose to spend your time after college that determines whether or not you'll experience anything like it (or better, as in my case) again.

As for myself, I constantly go to pool parties, music festivals, bars, clubs, and other massive social events that girls (both college age and older) attend frequently. Half of the time I'm encountering college/sorority girls at these events anyway, so I almost feel like I'm not even missing out. I am also surrounded by three college campuses in San Diego, one of which was named to have the "most attractive college girls in the United States" this year (San Diego State University). So any time I go to events in the nearby area, I run into all of the college girls who attend these events.

Women in college aren't part of some circle that is closed off to the rest of the world. When you're on campus, then yes, they are mostly involved with only those circles. But when they leave campus (usually on the weekends), they are just part of the crowd in bigger social events. If you want to expose yourself to that, you can certainly put yourself in situations to do that. I don't even do it simply to meet college girls -- I simply love to attend all of these events, music festivals, and social gatherings myself because they are fun, and that's exactly the same the reason the majority of attractive college girls do it too.

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I noticed race is more and more being addressed in this thread. Unfortunately, when the race topic occurs many will go "uh-oh" mainly due to the fact of how controversial the topic is. So here's my opinion on the subject, hopefully this will end the argument of the "blondes". Perception turn into beliefs and beliefs mold into mentalities. Many individuals who are non-white (minorities) and who are unsuccessful with the "hot blondes" say "blondes are so difficult to get with. I'm doing everything right and I still fail. It must be my race. Man you white guys have it much easier than us minorities." This is a skewered interpretation. In addition, it reminds me of the "inferiority complex".Because there are subtle implications that life would be easier if you were white. Individuals on THIS THREAD who are unsuccessful and so happen to be minorities are addressing the individuals who are successful on THIS THREAD that the reason they are not struggling so much is because they are white. In other words, you have white privileged with white women this is why you succeed. This is an inferior mind. First and foremost the belief that race is a determining factor of beauty/attractiveness shows that you have a severe misunderstanding of the general consensus of beauty i.e facial features, body features, walk, personality, etc. No matter what race a woman is she can have all these things. Yet you pedestal the "hot blonde" and this due to propaganda reasons. But we all have our preferences so I digress. The main difference between the weak men and great men is DESIRE. Weak men acts upon his average desires. Example, I want hot blonde. I approach hot blonde and I fail. End result I am not worthy of a hot blonde. In contrast to the great men, who acts upon his strongest desires. Think of a person who just harm your mother imagine your desire to harm this person that is the desire great men have towards the things they want to attain. They crave things. They Burn for things. And then they materialize it. Example, I desire hot blondes. I can and I will sleep with one. I approach and may fail or succeed but I will give her my best. End result you eventually slay a hot blonde woohoo and right the greatest LR of all time and keep going and going. Fear paralyzes activity and gives birth to Worry. Courage promotes activity and gives birth to Confidence. Weak men are negative and beg for success cowardly with no effort. Strong men are Goliaths and Demand success with great determination. Only the inferior mind will accept the belief that the reason they fail is because of race. It's inferior because it has no illustration in the route towards success. However, yes I agree there women who won't give you chance because you are whatever. But my questions is do you allow this stop you? Does one stop being positive because everyone is negative? There are blondes who prefer white men,Black men, Asian men, Arab men, etc. the same way you preferences they do too. This is her human right, in other words she is not mean. The same way you may deny a woman for race,religion,age, or whatever she can too. But despite her preference you have a choice to allow that to limit you by not approaching or liberating her and giving her the best HUMAN experience possible, race cannot do that.Race doesn't determine anything but how I will be classified in society.Can classification affect my success? Only as much as you allow it. Before you identity her with being a blonde or whatever race you must first understand that she is a HUMAN and that is where connect with her not race.
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Franco said:
This isn't necessarily the case. I involve myself in so many activities in San Diego (and stretching to Los Angeles and Las Vegas) that put me around beautiful women so often that I don't even notice the difference. It's really about where you choose to spend your time after college that determines whether or not you'll experience anything like it (or better, as in my case) again.

- Franco

The cool thing about getting involved in activities like this, is that many of the girls you meet are likely to be right up your alley in terms of common interests and experiences.

If you're into dance, go to dance classes and social dances and you'll meet dancers.

If you're into physic shit, go to physic fairs and you'll meet some fellow weirdos.

If you're into healthy food, go to health food stores, cooking classes, or health expos.

The caveat about this is that maybe your city doesn't have much going on, or doesn't have much going on in your interests. San Diego seems like a happening city.
I complain about my city (way too much) but I can still find interesting things to do. But certain cities are more vibrant and active than others.
 

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People here are confused about hot blondes and race, these women themselves (especially the younger ones) are not necessarily racist at all. A lot of them out there might actually want to hook up with Middle Eastern, Arab, and some lighter skinned Indian guys because all of those groups to some degree have Caucasian features and handsome men from those groups can often pull off the tall dark and handsome look quite well. The issue is that hot blondes want status, they want to associate with guys they can brag to their friends (male and female) about, and they absolutely hate anything that will hurt that status they want. I've often observed in public where a hot blonde might throw an IOI towards the direction of some of my better looking Indian or Arab friends (the very few I do have) but they rarely end up together.

This is where I don't see eye to eye with Radeng at. Perception is reality, that is the truth in the eyes of society and these hot blondes. If Margot Robbie started dating some Bollywood star, more hot blondes would follow her lead and do the same. Then you have the other issues to deal with: racist moms, racist dads, racist friends, and racist strangers. I am white myself, I get to hear what whites in more conservative areas (Missouri native here) say about minorities and foreigners. Hot blondes that might have interests in going for a more ethnic looking guy are threatened by racist white males, racist parents, and other racist women who basically try to corner these girls into only going for white guys. I have family in the south and I can say that whether it is a southern college town, big southern city, or a southern town, I have never seen the Jessica Simpson lookalikes go for Indian guys.

Now black guys can sometimes bend these rules because American media (which hot blondes worship more than any other kind of women out there!) tend to flatter black men with the best stereotypes about masculinity. Some hot blondes will risk their social standings and sleep with a black guy due to the stereotypes American media has of black men, these women find it to be "brave" and "bold" when they do. As a result you see some hot blondes going for black men who have status in their favor, because these women practically worship the media and what's popular (as Chase's post said).

Unfortunately, an Indian guy or Middle Eastern guy has none of those media stereotype benefits which gives the hot blonde no incentive to sleep with him. These kinds of women do not believe in love and romance, they believe in status, lust, and pleasure. So racism from society which pressures these women to exclusively be with white men and the negative stereotypes against brown men makes it pretty fucking difficult for an Indian or Brown guy in the USA to get that hot blonde of his dream.

I very rarely see it done unless the woman is foreign. Speaking my version of the truth here but I have never met a girl that was blonde, popular, good looking, and American to get with an Indian guy in my entire life.
 

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Edit: sorry for poor grammar. Typing on my phone.

only repeating what has been said before but this isn't a special case.

There are so many cases where the argument can be made that;
X type of guy I'd not able to get Y type of girl because, blah, blah, blah...

This is not unique in any way.

The facts are: There are MANY cases of guy X getting Girl Y but for many reasons like attracts like and sure, maybe it's "easier" if guy X and Girl Y of of a similar "type".

Type here being skin color, race, height, weight, religion, anything really.

At the end of the day. Just using an Indian guy in America as an example. They come from a different background and culture to some of the women they want. They guys who become the type of guy she likes in terms of lifestyle and attitude and interests have a good chance here.

How is a party girl whos live is going out 5 nights a week going to be attracted to someone like a computer programmer who likes nerdier things, doesn't stay up late, isn't the life of the party and is shy and timid? It's not race or skin color. They're just not that girls type in many ways.

They could TRY to become that type with some work but you guys don't seem to want that. You come with very different views and attitudes towards woman than the guys she's attracted to and expect her to change. It won't happen. You can't change the world alone, but you can adapt to it to win.

We can point out examples of success stories here all we want but the guys here won't listen and say they've never seen it. So why bother continuing doing that?

We can tell you guys to go out, approach, work on your style, your game, post questions about other more relevant things which we can discuss and help with too.. but it seems you won't. You'd rather not try. So if you won't try, this forum can't help you. This place is for self improvement and can only help guys who help themselves.

The SAME point is posted over and over that a few of you think you're some special snowflakes who are different from every other human being and it's just not true. The same advice that limits other guys who are short or over weight or lack confidence can help you here too.

This thread is just going nowhere. 4 pages on, you listen to ZERO advice from guys who really know what they're talking about in Franco and others.

Bottom line... just like the rest of us who've struggled and had some limiting beliefs... why don't you go out there and put in the work for the next 2 years. If you're STILL getting nowhere then maybe we have something to talk about but I doubt we will if you REALLY work hard.

To be honest. What nobody seems to be seeing here is that the attitude to the women you want is awful on this thread and probably why you you can't get them. They are not different, or special, I wouldn't even consider some of the celebrity mentioned as examples to be all that hot. But the women are looked on as prizes, trophies, property, something to be had. You "get them", then what? Expect them so obidently sit in the corner doting on you? It's NOT the world you're living in, in America. If you can't even relate to these women, and see them as people on a more platonic level. How can you even begin to understand attracting them.

It's so frustrating to read. I can (and have) in the past posted asking for advice because some type of girl is difficult for me for x, y, z reason. Some guys like Franco, Chase, Richard and others have helped me HUGELY I've never even thanked them enough for it. But in no way was my case special. I thought it was. I'm a foreigner myself surrounded by mainly American people and some cultural and other differences took me a while to really internalize. But of course, since I don't have the exact same look as some of you or live in the exact same place... I couldn't POSSIBLY understand what it's like to feel "different" yet learn to change and adapt and win at this game... or.. hmm.. could I?
 

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radeng said:
After re-reading this thread. I've changed my stance.

Dudes,if you're not white American, tall, good looking, rich, athletic, party boy, you might as well give up on the blondes.
Just give up. PUA was just created to trick you and take your money. Sorry. Monkeys out of the bottle now.

Luckily for you, us white guys, and the extremely almost impossibly rare foreign and minority guys who have over came insurmountable 1/1000000000000 odds in order to fuck blonde girls have created this thread for the rest of you to circle jerk each other while you imagine the life you could have if only you were one of us.

In the mean time.
More. Blonde. Pussy. For. me!

Radeng

Being white is more than enough, if you look average and have some ounce of game you can get hot blondes. To a degree, blacks and a small number of East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, filipino, etc.) can too.

I have never met an Indian or Pakistani guy who had success with the all American blonde types and I have met plenty of guys from those races who loved blondes, even did well with other kinds of hot girls, but could not get the blonde bimbo here in America.

One of my closest friends is Indian, he is a doctor now and quite handsome too, very likable guy. He went after the hot blonde types a lot but never had any luck, eventually he ended up dating this Italian woman who has knockout good looks. I guess there might just be something to it but hot blondes here in the USA really hate men from that ethnic background. That said though, I did know of one Russian blonde who used to date an Arab guy that looked very Indian so maybe that's a good path for Indian men who want blondes to follow. European and foreign ones do not hold the degree of prejudice and hatred towards "arab" men (this includes indians and pakistanis in their eyes) that the American ones do.

Maybe in the coming years when media stereotypes of Indians becomes more flattering, these women might change their minds more. Even the article said that these women closely follow Hollywood and right now, Hollywood is shitting on Indian guys hard.
 

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Proactivity said:
Being white is more than enough, if you look average and have some ounce of game you can get hot blondes.

I really couldn't read past this....

Man, if that's what you truly believe, that being white absolves someone from any problems in life then yeah, give up. That anyone white lives some privileged life, regardless of any other factors in life? Get a grip dude.

Things are never gonna work out for you if you want to live in your little bubble and actually believe this crap.
 

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Pro's post gets me because that is what has been fucking me up.

My biggest limiting belief is that I have never seen it done which fucks with my inner game. Hope RaDeng is right, I have found him to be helpful on this thread (and in my experience on this forum in general) but I live in the same region as he does and my place has a ton of guys that look ethnically like me and a shit ton of the hot blonde types, never seen it done. It fucks me up too because lately, I have had some signs of IOIs from these exact types of women in the forms of smiles and other things. On one hand I tell myself to stop being a pussy and just go for it but on the other hand, what pro posted gets me in that why is it that I have never in my life met a couple like that? It's like all the interests and initial signs might be there but these girls always end up with the same kind of guy who is almost always white (black in some cases).

Contrary to what you guys have said, the brown and Asian men in my area very assimilated. These are guys that watch football games, drink beer, eat pork + beef, dress like Americans, and have no accents either. They all love themselves some Jessica Simpson lookalikes too!

I am slowly starting to accept that I just don't have that pioneer type of mindset. So much of my inner game is dependent on what I see and I start to have self-doubts which causes me to be my own worst enemy. It's like I know for a fact that my mindset is having a huge impact on my results but I keep relapsing because I have never met someone who looks ethnically like me have success with these girls which further destroys my self-confidence.

All of my role models, close friends, and guys I have looked up to have been white guys. Every single brown guy I have met has been a pathetic guy I do not even want to associate with, many even try to fuel my limiting beliefs which is why I do not even hang out with them (getting poisonous people out of my life). I try to follow the guys I look up to (who are all white) but then I think to myself that fuck, I am brown and I will never be seen in the same way by society as them.

Just comes to show that this is an issue for a lot of us ethnic guys, especially of the pakistani arab indian variety, we don't have strong male role models in our lives who can serve as a source of inspiration for us. We are caught in this vicious mental block and I try every day to break out of it.

I at the very least know now that a part of my struggles is my mindset and attitude.
 

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If you can't find any models/mentors/ exemplars around you, then find them. Look for evidence.

I understand that limiting beliefs about race can be debilitating, but something that I have found encouraging is finding exemplars around me, deliberately looking for evidence of what I want. It's about trying to prove to yourself that it IS possible, instead of finding reasons saying otherwise.

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Aziz Ansari is Indian. He's not the best looking guy. He's not that tall, he's not muscular. He's not sexy (at least in a traditional sense). If he had anything going for him, it would be his humor and status as a celebrity. But even so... there are plenty of men that have status and celebrity and money and looks and that aren't Indian... which would be your argument for not being able to get white women, correct?

Yeah, in my opinion, she isn't super hot. But still. You have to start somewhere. It's still evidence. Keep looking for evidence. Keep looking for ways to change your mindset.

Check our Jeremy Soul. He's a PUA, but he's not one of those weirdo, creepy dudes. He has solid advice, he's got good articles from what I've read and he's also... Indian I believe? Not exactly sure what type of South Asian he is, but if I remember correctly, he's Indian. Anyways...

So no excuses! Go out there.

It's not impossible. It might be hard, especially if you're out there alone and you have no mentors, coaches, friends to support you, but if you really want this particular brand of "woman" then you gotta put in the work.
 

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Maybe you guys should just flip it.

Tell her your parents only want you dating in your own ethnicity/religion (actually one of Chase's bf disqualifiers), and say you can't let your social circle see you with her, so it has to be a secret...

Better yet, screen out brainwashed media pawns who are on your pedestal for looks alone. I don't see the appeal. My last gf (Scandinavian), was with a new Mexican immigrant for 5 years prior. Maybe meet some blonde milfs instead who have adult brains. Jessica Simpson's pretty old now too right.
 

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Guys I already posted William Gupta's author page lol you have the evidence.
 

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Celebrities are a poor example of anything, at that point anyone with awful game can have any kind of girl they want but most of us are not going to be A-list actors, comics, or pro athletes. Same can be said of PUAs, most have them have been shown to put up fake videos. Now that said, I looked into Altair's posts and found that he lives in the region of the country I tell most guys not to live in, the bible belt. Earlier in the thread I shared my bad experiences with people there and just how awful the game there might likely be. That said, I do have a friend who is Arab (looks it too) and living in Florida where he regularly hooks up with attractive white girls, some brunettes and some blondes. I am brown myself and have done well with the better looking white girls in Arizona, they are very receptive to the few Indian guys with athletic bodies that exist out there but as I said, athletic looking bodies are a must. I have seen a good number of Hispanic men who can easily pass for Indian or Arabic hook up with the hot blonde types, it is not uncommon at all.

Reading the field reports, it seems like he isn't that shy and he talks to girls, actually putting himself out there. For the long run, I think that a move might end up being not only a smart choice but also mandatory. I don't know too much about the south but I know enough to the point that it isn't the best place in the country for an exotic looking guy that wants to go for good looking white girls.
 
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