The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)



The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Chase » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:53 am

In light of the bombshells / other posts:

1. Get your fundamentals tightened down HARD. The prettier a girl is, the more men are competing for her, and the better an option you MUST be. Specifically, you must tailor yourself to be the kind of man that SHE goes for, focusing on the qualities that you yourself have under your control. So, if you want to date a ghetto black girl and she mostly only goes for black thug guys, quit whining about how hard it is that you're some skinny white guy and go get as dirty and nasty and hood as you can - fix your accent, fix your walk, get muscles, get a couple of tattooed tears, get a little gold jewelry, or maybe a grill. OR, become one of the OTHER type she goes for - maybe she's the hood rat looking for a good man to get her out of the hood, or look for the subsection of ghetto girls who secretly long to explore the exotic world of well-dressed white men - then figure out where you can meet women like this. Find what she wants and become this, through and through. You don't want to change yourself for a woman? Tough. Just like there are women you want, and any woman who wants you is going to have to become that before you pay any attention to her at all, there are also men whom women want, and any man who wants their interest is going to have to become that before they pay him any mind.

2. Next, devalue her looks. If you're mesmerized by women with tight bodies or bleached blonde hair or tattoos or whatever it is, there's an easy fix for getting over this: force yourself to evaluate women by face alone. Every time you catch yourself going, "OH my god... look at her heavenly buttocks! No woman with such bountiful buttocks would EVER date a man like me, whose buttocks are far less bountiful by comparison," give yourself a good knock on the head and force yourself to evaluate her by her face ALONE. Pretty amazing how even girls you froze up around before become EXTREMELY human when you're only looking at their faces. And, see past the makeup, too - big fake lashes and shiny lipstick and rouge on her cheeks all disappear overnight. So long as you are gasping for breath around a girl, sweating bullets, and falling all over yourself, you are shooting your own feet off with those girls. You need to get cool, inside and out, because no matter how hard you try to look cool on the outside, if you're a mess of nerves on the inside, it will show.

3. After this, look for other role models you can mimic. What other guys who are "like you" (whatever that means to you) do well with girls "like her" (again, whatever that means)? If you don't know any or can't find any examples, then you need to a.) get out more and meet more people, because trust me, I personally have met or heard a fair bit about just about every kind of man specializing in just about every kind of woman, and/or b.) move to a city that isn't population 10,000, where everyone's trapped in social circle and nobody's going to give you the opportunity to experiment much socially. If you still can't find any role models, tough cookies, go become a role model for other guys like you with the same preferences as you to follow.

4. Next, go build up lots of FEMALE FRIENDS like her, FIRST. No, don't just start approaching her. If she's this special, exotic, and wonderful to you still, you don't know anything about her and you won't connect with her. You need female friends of her sort first. Why? To get familiar with girls like her. What's she like? What are her interests? What does she talk about? What kind of men does she date? What kinds of guys does she cry over? What qualities does she detest and run away from? How does she spend her Saturday afternoons? What are her dreams in life? Why did she get that tattoo on the small of her back, or decide to start bleaching her hair, or putting in extensions? How come she has a little dog - why not a cat, or nothing? The goal here is to get to know this demographic of women SO well, that you are COMPLETELY comfortable around them, understand them inside and out, and can walk up to any girl like her with ease, thinking, "Oh, she's just like my friend," and know ALL the right buttons to push to get her interested in you. This feeds back into #1, because before you can become what she wants, you've got to KNOW what she wants.

5. Do it. Do it. Do it. But maybe someone can just tell you that one secret... that one little magic line that makes every conservative Asian girl wet, no matter how intimidating and scary you seem? Maybe someone can just give you that one facial expression that turns redheads from bored with you to insatiable for you? Perhaps, if you just ask enough times, SOMEONE will finally hand you the routine you need to run to at last excite those fiery Latinas who've heretofore treated you like you were invisible? Nope; sorry. There is NOTHING like that. Nothing. Nobody on Earth has it. I don't have it. No one else on this forum has it. Nobody else on any OTHER forum has it. No matter how many people you ask, how many times you ask it, or how many times you rephrase the question, there is no intravenous solution to becoming great with a subsection of women overnight. If you want to specialize, you must know your demographic INSIDE AND OUT. You must eat, breathe, and sleep interaction with her. You've got to spend every waking moment talking to her, laughing with her, interacting with her, flirting with her, and getting to know her innermost secrets. Only by spending enough TIME AROUND HER will you begin to morph your personality into what she and girls like her find most appealing.

That's your magic pill. It's time spent around a type of girl getting to know her very well. Spend enough time around a certain kind of girl, in intimate ways (good friends, lovers, girlfriends) and you WILL come to know them inside and out. They will stop being strange and exotic, and instead will become familiar, boring, and blasé.

Then, all of a sudden, you will start meeting them, and to you, they will be just another girl, one like so many others just like them you have already known well. But YOU will be a new, sexy, mysterious stranger, who seems to know them so well but is so unmoved by them, unlike most of the other men "like you"... what's so different about you? HOW can you be this unmoved? How much EXPERIENCE with other girls like her must you have? Immediately, she views you as a heavily preselected man, and her interest in you shoots through the roof.

This is why success with women breeds success. It's hardest in the beginning, I realize that, but same as what we talked about in "Can't Stop Thinking About Her? Here's Why You Need to Meet More Girls", there's no shortcut to success. You're not going to pitch a no-hitter to help your team win the World Series if you suddenly find yourself thrown into the stadium for that and you've only ever played Little League before. You've got to work your way up, and you do that by getting intimately familiar with a thing. In women's case, if women are strange and exotic and alien to you, you need to spend a LOT more time around them and get to know them very well and very deeply. You need female friends, confederates, confidantes, and, eventually, lovers and girlfriends of their types.

There is ONE other way, and that is being so goddamn solid and dominant and strong and sexy in general, and having your life so thoroughly handled, that women are an after thought to you, and you don't spend an ounce of time worrying about any of them because you're so busy working on building the things that are important to you. However, if you still have insecurities about women, it can be pretty hard to go here FIRST; it's usually easier to solve those insecurities first, as they're the lower hanging fruit. Once they're out of the way, you've freed your mind to focus on more important things, like whatever great contributions you'd like to try and make to society and the world.

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby 132 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:35 am

I like this post Chase, but the problem is not the lacking of information on how to do it. You've provided more than plenty. The problem is that people want to see results really fast.


The problem with most people (myself included) is that they want a quick solution. You know read this one article and tonight go and seduce a girl and have sex.

Most people are not willing to spend 5+ years on learning seduction. Even I started approaching a week ago and I feel bad for not having any big results yet.

And most people are like that with be it weight loss - they want that new product that makes you lose 20 pounds per week with no diet or exercising, or just read this one book and become a millionaire overnight, or in seduction.


And with seduction especially in the beginning it's hard when you've had no past success to look back to. Like now I'm wandering if I'll have to approach and work on my "game" for 1-2 years before I go out and sleep with a girl. I guess if you've done it for years and have slept with many women you don't worry about this anymore. Same in fitness if you've been working out for 3-4 years and you want to put on 10 pounds of muscle - you know it might take you 6-7 months but it easy cause you know it'll work. Or in business if you're already successful and you want to start a new company even if it takes you a few years to get it to make lots of money, you don't worry cause you know you can do it and it will happen. And I bet it's also in seduction you know you will get to sleep with a hot girl - just approach enough girls and work on your process.


But when you're an absolute beginner. I can only see how much hard work it's going to take and you don't know that it'll work. I can tell you to work out every day and stay on a strict diet for 30 days and you'll lose 20 pounds. I know it cause i lost over 110 pounds. But a newbie doesn't know it'll work and doubts it. Also people don't start a business cause they can only see the risk and lots of work and dedication i takes. Or in seduction if you (Chase) tell an advanced guy just go in that club and approach 20-30 girls/ approach 50 girls in day game, you'll get at least one. The guy would agree and do it, cause he's done it and knows it might take 20 approaches but he will do it. Tell a complete newbie to approach 100 girls in a week and that he'll get 1 girl - and he'll doubt it cause he hasn't done it. He doesn't have the reference point that tells him it's possible. He can only see the 100 approaches and 100 rejections and how much hard work it's gonna take.


It's the same with me now. I have no positive past experiences not even a single date. So my mind doubts if this will work. It wanders if this is true and possible or if every single article/post/advice is a lie, if every single lay report or claim made on the board or in the articles is a lie, if every filmed approach is fake and the PUAs use paid girls to shoot those. If at I'll ever get even a single girl, no matter how much I improve and think in numbers. I don't have anything that can tell me/show me it's possible if I just continue working on it. And the only reason I'm doing it and will continue doing it due to blind faith. I don't believe it will happen but I keep going anyway hoping it will. Like the first weeks of working out - you don't know if you'll actually lose weight but you go on every single day with every single exercise with every single rep.

It's the same think with seduction I don't think or imagine it'll happen but I keep working on my fundamentals and process and keep approaching and bearing rejection after rejection because I hope it'll work someday on some girl.



Most people don't have that blind faith that keep them moving forward. And then a year passes and they wander what would've been if a year ago when they thought of starting to work out and diet, start approaching and working on their process, started that company, they had just started working instead of giving up.

So they don't only need [b]"the how to" , they need the motivation to do it. And Idk how and even if you can help them. You might consider this about some future articles. Instead of writing about how to do sth. Just write some great inspirational/motivational article explaining how the process works in the beginning and make the readers really psyched and really eager to buy your products and start doing it. Cause let's be honest the people who buy your products aren't the experienced seducers, it's the complete newbies and losers (like myself) that are wandering if it'll work and if they should buy that product that this Chase Amante guy says will work, or if's just a scam. I hope you do write such a inspirational/motivational (or a few) article that will get the new arrivals and people not familiar with your website, psyched about learning how to make girls chase.[/b]
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Franco » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:00 pm

Ico,

Most people are not willing to spend 5+ years on learning seduction. Even I started approaching a week ago and I feel bad for not having any big results yet.


If it takes you more than a year to get your first lay (even if there's some dumb luck involved), then it means you're doing something very, very wrong. And usually that has to do with correcting a mistake that you're repeating over and over again without realizing (or asking to see if you're making) the same mistake. Chase spent 5+ years learning seduction so that we don't have to.

I've mentioned this several times, but I had my first lay from reading this material after about 3 months of approaching regularly every weekend, and it ended up being an extended social circle lay. My first cold approach lay came at about 4.5 months. And I considered myself to be a fast learner, and at the time, there was no forum to get feedback from.

Anyone who expects to see results after the first few approaches isn't recognizing the difficulty of the task before them. Learning this is NOT easy, and Chase has already mentioned this. It is a grind. But the harder you grind, the faster you will learn. I'd say it took me about 12-15 months to be where at a level I felt comfortable with, and this is coming from a guy who learns quickly. So don't expect to get results immediately, but also don't expect it to take 5+ years because it shouldn't.

If people could all have amazing results in a month or less, then everyone would be on Chase's website becoming absolute studs with women, and it would appear that naturals were EVERYWHERE banging every hot girl in sight. Luckily, that isn't the case; so for those of us that put in the time and effort to improve, we get to have the girls that some guys can only dream about.

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Richard » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:14 pm

The problem with most people (myself included) is that they want a quick solution. You know read this one article and tonight go and seduce a girl and have sex.

Most people are not willing to spend 5+ years on learning seduction. Even I started approaching a week ago and I feel bad for not having any big results yet.


Ico,

The only solution to going out in a single night and seducing a girl when you've got no prior experience is money...

If you take a look at the "best of" section in each board then you'll see my progress in the span of a year - within a single year where my prior dating experience was only one girlfriend I laid 13 women and currently have an amazing girlfriend named Celestina =) ahhh my mami chula....

For most people - even the most advanced learners it generally takes around 3-4 months to start seeing results, and from there things start to take-off rapidly. It's just like weight-loss where you work out for 3 months but don't see immediate results because you're changing your mitochondrial size and capacity to allow for exploding weight loss after that 3 months.

Anyway Ico, think about things logically - if every guy was able to seduce women after a day or two of reading then the competition for beautiful women would be immense and the same things that made you good with women would be the "norm" for every guy and then you'd be right back to square one. The point is that it's not easy for guys to learn this because of what it takes but on the same note because of that it gives you the biggest advantage as long as you're willing to stick with it ;)

So keep approaching - writing FRs and receiving feedback,

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EDIT: Franco... why do I even bother? You always beat me to replies I wanna write....
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby 132 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:56 pm

Franco, you mentioned asking if you're making a mistake. It made me wander will it be weird to ask a girl, who's rejected you - why she rejected you? I mean that's good feedback and will help you learn faster.

If it was your approach - you came on too strong/weak. If it was the way you look and vibe. If it was just bad timing or you're not her type or she actually had a boyfriend.

Of course asking in a normal just curious way, non attacking or defending. Just asking out of curiosity. And telling her she won't hurt your feelings and to be honest. Not sugar coating it.


Is this a good idea to help me learn faster or is it a bad idea and will backfire?


Plus on I won't wait even 5 months for my first lay. I've decided that I don't sleep with a girl till the end of May (cause that's when summer starts and everybody from the part of the capital, I live in, moves to their hometowns or most of them to the seaside to work and party) I'll be playing the money card during the summer. I'll be in my hometown and at Sunny Beach. You know driving a ferrari(I've been thinking of buying an F430 for only 100k which is a good deal if it can help me get aid) and renting a yacht for week (I checked it costs 10k or 1 week), plus being a VIP at the clubs. Since most people buy a couple of drinks and spend 20 to 50 per night if you spend 3-5k they treat you really great. They give you the VIP table with bottle service, give you special treatment and even bring girls to you. All that coupled with approaching 10 girls per day I think I might have a nice summer. If that fails I'll be calling the high end hookers every night for a few weeks to get it out of my system this shame of being a virgin.
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Franco » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:46 pm

Zphix wrote:EDIT: Franco... why do I even bother? You always beat me to replies I wanna write....


Work's been slow lately! Need something to do. Good to know that we're on the same page, though! ;)

It made me wander will it be weird to ask a girl, who's rejected you - why she rejected you?


It won't necessarily backfire because you've technically already "lost" the girl if you're asking her why you failed, but it definitely won't help you (and she'll think you're a bit weird for asking).

Remember, a girl doesn't have logical reasons for why you failed. It's not like girls read GC and will tell you, "well, you could have moved the conversation faster and number-closed me with more confidence. Also, I wasn't available for the next two hours, so you could have gone for an instant date and fucked me in the car or somewhere else public."

It just doesn't work that way.

When I mention asking for advice, I mean coming on to the boards and asking experienced members (or asking other natural friends you might have that are good with women). Women are not good at taking other women to bed; men are the ones who take women to bed, so if you want advice from someone who is actually going to give you useful advice, you need to ask a man who is good at taking women to bed.

I hope this makes sense. =)

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Chase » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:23 pm

Franco and Richard are all over this one. Just one extra note, Ico:

Ico132 wrote:The problem with most people (myself included) is that they want a quick solution. You know read this one article and tonight go and seduce a girl and have sex.

Most people are not willing to spend 5+ years on learning seduction. Even I started approaching a week ago and I feel bad for not having any big results yet.


Sure, of course. There's a bit of a, "Whoa, this is harder than I expected," effect that hits you any time you start something new, unless you'd already built up a ton of peripheral skills and the new thing you're starting is really just pulling together a bunch of other things you already know how to do (e.g., the guy who's good at surfing and skiing will tend to have a much shorter learning curve with snowboarding than the guy who's done neither of the three before will).

I went through that at first too - you go out thinking, "This is going to be a piece of cake! I'm such a hottie women will fall at my feet," and then you come home crestfallen because every woman treated you like some irrelevant, clueless chump trying to get her attention when she had more attractive options to tend to instead. When that hits you, you either throw your hands up and declare it isn't for you, and then go spend your time on something else (hopefully some other constructive skill-building exercise, like learning programming or entrepreneurship or a trade or some other branch of social skills), and maybe you come back to this later on when you're more ready - which is what happened to me the first time I tried to teach myself pickup at 18 - or you adjust your expectations and tell yourself this is going to be a bit of a slog, but you're going to knuckle down and make it happen because goddamnit, you want this.

So, in this post, I'm talking to one specific group of guys:

Those with no experience with a certain set of girls and are striking out with them left and right.

Some guys come into this and they're getting laid instantly, usually because they both have tight fundamentals already, and they have spent enough time around a certain kind of girl, flirting with her, getting to know her in and out, and connecting with her very deeply, that all seduction material does for them is put the last pieces in place, and they connect the dots and say, "AH - I see how to get her!"

Other guys come into this and they struggle for a good while, here usually because they both lack solid fundamentals, and do NOT have much or any experience with the kinds of women (or any women) they are trying to get.

The difference between the first guy's learning curve and the second guy's learning curve is the difference between the guy who's surfed and skied and wants to learn snowboarding, and the guy who's never done either and wants to learn snowboarding.

That second guy can complain that he's been practicing snowboarding for a week and he still can't go down the black diamond slopes, but the best snowboarding instructor in the world can't get him there in a week because he just isn't coming in with the peripheral skill sets in place to have a learning curve that short. He can pay his dues on the bunny slopes first, or he can hang it up for a while and go learn surfing or skiing first and have an easier time of it when he comes back to snowboarding, but either way, until we invent the "upload program" function of the Matrix that allows skill-learning to be synced directly into someone's memory banks, the only way to get there when you aren't there yet is putting in work.

Chase

EDIT: one other point - note that the original post was not a "spend 5 years learning seduction" post. The first post wasn't even really about seduction for the most part. It was a "if you want a type of girl you don't know anything about yet, forget about learning seduction - first, learn about HER" post.

EDIT II: this gives me a great idea for a peripheral article or product series for GC... "How to Get Familiar with X Kinds of Girls." Hmmm...!
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby 132 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:23 pm

Franco, thanks for clarifying.

Cause for me (and probably most men) - you know the reason you like a girl. You know it's either her body, her face, her character, something other specific. And after reading so much GC I've trained my mind to always look for the right reason why sth happened. Not always with me. But rather while watching a movie or seeing other guys interact with girls, etc. And I analyze what and why happened and breaking it down. Why sth worked or didn't work.


So I guess for girls it's that she didn't "feel it". She doesn't need to know why she didn't feel it. She only cares that she is not interested, and doesn't need a reason why.

I think that's what you're talking about.



Chase a few things to you.
I kinda get what you're saying. It's the born natural talent vs the hard working from Naruto(I know it sounds lame for a guy to watch anime and read manga, but I started when I was 13 and it was actually my inspiration to change my life, beat depression, lose the weight, start a business). Like there is this guy Sasuke who is born with a special kind of eyes and he just needs to see the fighting technique of the best fighter and he can learn it in less than a week. While there are the guys like Naruto and Rock Lee, who have been training for 10 years all day every day, till tears start falling till they start bleeding, till basically complete exhaustion and loss of consciousness. They are both at the same level but one learns it easy the other works harder than anyone else and surpasses the lazy genius.

So I think I see your point. And It might be better this way, cause if I really work hard I'd get way more experience than some natural and might reach a level that a natural simply can't. I hope so.

What I was talking in my original post was that I have no way to be certain it'll work I only hope that it will. It's not possible to know when I've not experienced it but I'm working on experiencing it.



EDIT II: this gives me a great idea for a peripheral article or product series for GC... "How to Get Familiar with X Kinds of Girls." Hmmm...!


I definitely think it's better to be a product. The main 2 reasons are: 1st it's gonna take a bit more effort and time and you should make some money from it. And 2nd people value information more if they've paid for it. It's like girls and investment. For an example one of my products on the topic how to make lots of money from iphone apps - it costs 200$. If it was free most people would read it and say "hmmm cool" and forget about it and never do it. But when they've paid 200$ for, it you can bet they'll implement the information and actually start making money from apps, or they'll feel like idiots for wasting their money(and people don't like to feel like idiots).

When you said it, some ideas came to my mind on how to do it. And a few weeks ago, I wrote down some thing you can/should change about GC and your strategy to have bigger profits. Cause if GC changes my life and I actually have success with women, I'd like to return the favor and what I'm good at is online business. In a few months when I start getting results with girls, I'll personally contact you (you can sent me you e-mail on a private message, so I'll have it) and you can hear what I have to suggest. Also about the new product I think I can help you out a lot (if you'll let me). I'm the kind of person, when someone helps me in a big way - I help back in a big way. It'll be my way of thanking you if it does change my life and I get results with girls.

Just and advice if you do create this product without my help - don't release it before the end of the summer(meaning the release should be in October). There are some types of products that do best when released at a certain time of the year. This is the same like a product for weight loss. If you have a choice between releasing it during the summer or at the end of the summer - it's better to choose at the end. You think that people might be more likely to buy it before the summer but it's actually the opposite. After they've spend yet another summer being fat and feeling like crap, they feel like they've wasted yet another summer, they are really emotional at the end of the summer and vowing to change and never go through that ever again and it's super easy to sell to them at that time. It's the same here - most people will do most of their approaching during the summer or won't do any approaching an will just day dream and feel depressed(the profit is not going to come from the 100 regular guys who are experienced - it'll come from the thousands of newbies starting to learn). Plus during the fall and winter people have more money to spend(that's why iphones and other new tech comes out during the fall or winter). Plus when a product is released it's the time to make the biggest splash and you can build a lot of hype before the launch. And I like to always sell a few hundred copies of the product before it's even launched - it's kind of a guarantee that you're on the right track and at least you won't lose money, and you can build a lot of hype about the launch.

It'll be up to you if you'd like a bit of help or not. My part is to keep approaching and see results, And if you send me your e-mail, to help you with what I can.


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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Proactivity » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:11 pm

I am going to be politically incorrect here, Black women (ghetto or not) are generally the most open minded of all races. I have known many Black women who were not only open to dating interracial but preferred it. From what my Black friends have told me it has to do with the fact that a lot tend to like mixed kids or kids who have the "good hair". As a White guy I have noticed that around Black and Asian girls I have automatic DHV.

Though this is a good thread, I think we can improve it a bit more. I would love to see number 4 being expanded on, mainly in the point of:

1. Where do you find the given types of women?
2. How do you break into their circles once you do?

I love a blonde bombshell with the All American looks and unlike other members here, I am a White male so I should have no excuses. In the Northeast (especially NYC), I found that it is not easy to find the All American blonde bombshell. The few blondes you do find are Scandinavian tourists and Eastern European immigrants. NYC has a lot more White women who are brunettes due to the high Jewish and Italian population. When you do find a pretty looking Blonde, they are surrounded by so many men or are usually in a relationship that it is tough to actually go anywhere with them. Thanks to Franco I know that California is a good place but I can't be the only one who is a bit thrown off by how expensive it is there.

Now I have met one from dance class who I have a date with about a little over 2 hours from now but generally these kinds of women are not easy to find. What I am trying to know is how do you find them in a given city. Even then I notice that breaking into their circles is not easy.

For example I know they love country music and go to country music concerts. I have that privilege, I don't know if my friend who happens to be foreign looking for example can even break into that crowd as I have been to country music concerts and people there are openly racist a lot of times (eg: Riley Cooper who is a WR for the Eagles).

As weird as it sounds, I think we should stereotype classes of women to give guys a direction. How can a man find the kind of women he is looking for first and then break into their crowd? What shocks me is that there are not many articles on how to land the blonde bombshell, Chase could write one because I know lots of guys who are crazy for those kinds of women but find them very difficult to attract.

I know we can't do it for all kinds of women but we can do it for those a lot of guys love. From my experience those women are: Blonde bombshells, Asian women, and Latinas.

In the Northeast I can say blondes are much harder to find while in the college towns down south you see them all the time, unfortunately if you aren't in college there it is very hard to get with them.

Asian women are plentiful in the Northwest and in California, lots in Hawaii, and there are many in the Northeast too.

Latinas are plentiful in the Southwest but they are more Mexican looking, NYC has a lot of Puerto Rican looking ones, and Florida (especially Miami) has all kinds.
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Franco » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:38 pm

Ico,

So I guess for girls it's that she didn't "feel it". She doesn't need to know why she didn't feel it. She only cares that she is not interested, and doesn't need a reason why.


Now you're getting it. ;)

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How can a man find the kind of women he is looking for first and then break into their crowd? What shocks me is that there are not many articles on how to land the blonde bombshell, Chase could write one because I know lots of guys who are crazy for those kinds of women but find them very difficult to attract.


There is no place in the United States that just "blonde bombshells" flock together or are in high abundance. The reason? Blonde bombshells are not a race or nationality. They can be any type of white girl with blonde (possibly dyed) hair that takes good care of her body and flaunts it. That's about it. While you can specify areas that there might be a ton of WHITE people (blondes, brunettes, and red heads included), there is no particular place (in the United States) that blonde women are in much higher abundance than anywhere else. Hair color is just hair color. A "brunette bombshell" could dye her hair blonde and suddenly become a "blonde bombshell."

I've actually had girls I've dated dye their hair a completely different color (after some talking about it of course) just for the variety effect of it. Sometimes it almost feels like you're with a completely different girl (physically). The point that I'm trying to make here is that the word "blonde" shouldn't even be taken into context when trying to locate a subset of women. If you want to find an area that has lots of WHITE women who take care of their bodies the way you would expect a "blonde bombshell" to, then that can be done.

Even in California, you aren't going to be surrounded by a majority of blondes. There are a ton of them, but it's still evenly mixed in with the brunettes, and there are just as many guys going after the hot brunettes as there are the hot blondes. Personally, I find the most attractive of brunettes to be at the highest tier of women, so a "blonde bombshell" is actually a grade lower on my scale than a "brunette bombshell." It's all a matter of perception. Perhaps this is actually why I tend to get more attraction from blonde girls in general -- I don't value them as highly as I do very attractive brunettes.

To re-iterate the point in case it got lost, hair color is not an attribute that should be used to define the location of women. The same goes for other features. Any post that talks about "How and Where to Get Attractive Brunettes" will also contain the same content as "How and Where to Get Attractive Blondes."

I just wanted to make this clear. =)

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Proactivity » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:08 pm

Franco,

Agreed with most of that post but I would still say Blondes are more desired overall than brunettes and get more attention. A good example would be a woman like actress Katie Cassidy (she has been posted here before but she was the blonde on taken who was friends with Liam Neeson's daughter), she is naturally a brunette but she does color her hair blonde and looks more attractive while doing it. Even though it is just a hair color, I feel like a woman feels completely different about herself when she goes blonde. It is like a guy who has a normal looking body hitting the gym religiously and taking steroids to have big muscles, he is still the same guy but he transforms into another person.

I do agree with your post in that blonde is just a hair color but I also think when people say it, they mean it as a image. When they say blonde they mean a good looking blonde bombshell and I notice that some areas tend to have a lot more women with that image than others. For example, when I was in Nashville I noticed an overabundance of such women while in NYC it is much harder to find women like this.

The point I am getting at here is when guys seem to like "blondes", they don't like a hair color, they like an image.
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Franco » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:29 pm

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Agreed with most of that post but I would still say Blondes are more desired overall than brunettes and get more attention.


It really just depends where you are. You tend to value what is more scarce to you, so if blondes are scarce, then they are going to be more valued. In Southern California, it's pretty evenly split between attractive blondes and attractive brunettes, and you'll see high status or good-looking guys with both. Neither one is valued more highly than the other, and California probably has probably some of the most attractive women in the world (of a specific type).

What I do find is that the guys here who are successful with women don't hold themselves to any one type. They aggressively approach all attractive women of all backgrounds, and that's part of the reason they have so much success. It's a combination of understanding that it's a numbers game and that pre-selection can win you girls you didn't expect to win over. For example, I've had attractive blondes hit on me at bars before just to generate enough pre-selection so I could go after the attractive brunette I was eye-balling earlier in the night. It really goes both ways.

The point I am getting at here is when guys seem to like "blondes", they don't like a hair color, they like an image.


Well, that's not the way we use it here in America! If you are going after a "blonde" here, then it means you're literally going after a "blonde-haired" girl. If you want an "All-American" girl (which is what the image is REALLY referring to), then you just want the American white girl who is fit, tan, has a sexy smile, a fun personality, and American interests... regardless of hair color.

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby BarryS1 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:48 am

So, if you want to date a ghetto black girl and she mostly only goes for black thug guys, quit whining about how hard it is that you're some skinny white guy and go get as dirty and nasty and hood as you can - fix your accent, fix your walk, get muscles, get a couple of tattooed tears, get a little gold jewelry, or maybe a grill. OR, become one of the OTHER type she goes for - maybe she's the hood rat looking for a good man to get her out of the hood, or look for the subsection of ghetto girls who secretly long to explore the exotic world of well-dressed white men - then figure out where you can meet women like this. Find what she wants and become this, through and through.


Chase, really eye-opening about tightening fundamentals towards a certain demographic. Even though there are many types of girls exist and to get results, like you suggested, involves going out there and finding it yourself. For example, I have found that wearing professional clothing has not worked well for approaching younger girls.

Some guys come into this and they're getting laid instantly, usually because they both have tight fundamentals already, and they have spent enough time around a certain kind of girl, flirting with her, getting to know her in and out, and connecting with her very deeply, that all seduction material does for them is put the last pieces in place, and they connect the dots and say, "AH - I see how to get her!"


Wow! This is exactly what happened to me. After 2 months of approaching and no dating experience, I got my first lay with a career-oriented girl. I was exposed to this demographic 4 years beforehand knew the struggles, aspirations, and personalities of this type.

EDIT II: this gives me a great idea for a peripheral article or product series for GC... "How to Get Familiar with X Kinds of Girls." Hmmm...!


I think creating a list of girls and the types of men they go for would be helpful. Though you stated earlier many different types of girls exist, there must be certain guys throughout history a majority becomes attracted to. For example, in the U.S. I see the gossip/T.V./movie fanatic girls as well as athletic going out with guys in sports leagues/teams.
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Proactivity » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:15 pm

It really just depends where you are. You tend to value what is more scarce to you, so if blondes are scarce, then they are going to be more valued. In Southern California, it's pretty evenly split between attractive blondes and attractive brunettes, and you'll see high status or good-looking guys with both. Neither one is valued more highly than the other, and California probably has probably some of the most attractive women in the world (of a specific type).


Stereotypically Blonde bombshells have always been seen as the "trophy wives". I am speaking from my experience in Kansas, NYC, and the south and it confirms that saying. Most of the rich and high status guys I knew had blonde bombshells as girlfriends and in the younger crowd the pretty boys had girlfriends who were blonde bombshells. It was almost like a benchmark for achievement. As I have said myself, I find that the blonde bombshells are generally more conscious of their self-image so they are less forgiving of shortcomings compared to other kinds of women.

What I do find is that the guys here who are successful with women don't hold themselves to any one type. They aggressively approach all attractive women of all backgrounds, and that's part of the reason they have so much success.


I do limit myself based on race because personally I am just not that attracted to Black women or women with darker skin, not that into most Asian girls either unless they are Japanese. What is even more odd is that I have had a lot of these women that I have no interest in give me strong IOIs and actually want to date me even more but I believe in the end it is all about going after what you want. I am just naturally more attracted to White women and Latinas.


Well, that's not the way we use it here in America! If you are going after a "blonde" here, then it means you're literally going after a "blonde-haired" girl. If you want an "All-American" girl (which is what the image is REALLY referring to), then you just want the American white girl who is fit, tan, has a sexy smile, a fun personality, and American interests... regardless of hair color.
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When I was growing up in Kansas and spending time in the south, you know what people meant when they said Blonde. If a blonde was unattractive they would use other traits to describe her and not her hair color. So when people said Blonde, they meant an attractive woman with blonde hair, not a plain jane with blonde hair. If she was a plain jane, they would say something less favorable to describe her like "that chubby girl" or "that really skinny girl". Though the All American girl comes in all hair color, we mostly imagine her to be a blonde like Heather Graham.

BarryS1 wrote:I think creating a list of girls and the types of men they go for would be helpful. Though you stated earlier many different types of girls exist, there must be certain guys throughout history a majority becomes attracted to. For example, in the U.S. I see the gossip/T.V./movie fanatic girls as well as athletic going out with guys in sports leagues/teams.


I posted a thread on that to see how people would respond but so far it hasn't really gone as well as I have expected. Now I want to talk to your post about sports leagues and teams, do you know how tough it is to get on one? I hate to be a dick here but most of us will not be playing on the Denver Broncos at all and the guys that are have their choices of many kinds of girls. It is like saying if you want to date or marry a 10, just do what Leonardo DiCaprio is doing and become a rich and famous actor. What I think would be helpful for Chase to do is give men advice on an image they can realistically make themselves into.

Being a part of a sports team or league is not realistic, a lot of that is determined in how well you play ball in your teenage years. With that being said, there are certain things those guys have that your normal male may have a chance of copying and one of that would be a very nice body (muscular frame).

Thread is right here:

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Franco » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:34 pm

I am just naturally more attracted to White women and Latinas.


Ditto. I have little-to-no interest in Asian women and African-American women for the most part -- there are cases where they are of mixed descent and have really attractive features, but other than that, I generally only go after white and Latina girls.

What I think would be helpful for Chase to do is give men advice on an image they can realistically make themselves into.


The problem with this is that it's going to vary by location (in terms of looks), so it would be unrealistic to ask him to make one for "All-American" girls since these girls' preferences are different depending on which state you're in. The matter of the fact is, you just need to look at the guys in YOUR area that are having success with these women and then emulate their looks and mannerisms.

If you take care of your facial features, hit the gym to get at least a toned body, and dress fashionably well -- emulate those around you having success -- then you'll have the tools to succeed. From there, it's about injecting yourself into the social groups that are hanging around these types of girls so that you can get the social proof necessary to have more consistent success.

EDIT: I should mention that my current girlfriend is basically the type of girl everyone is talking about in these threads; she's a white, blonde-haired go-go dancer born in the states with a bubbly personality and a smoking body. I'm not speaking from inexperience here; I've also laid a few other girls of a similar type. I'm also not hugely muscular, but I do an intensive, 2-hour upper-body workout once a week that keeps me rather toned and gives me that "V" shape that girls swoon over.

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Rage » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:01 pm

Chase this is a really awesome post. Much of it is very relevant to stuff I’ve been experiencing infield recently and semi-recently.

I wanted to note/summarize some of the relevant observations I’ve made in regards to the post and lessons I’ve learned as a result. I’m writing this really more for my own benefit than for anything else (writing stuff down helps sort of jog my subconscious mind and helps me realize things I might not have considered before) but am glad at the chance to help if any of what I write is eye-opening or relatable to any of the other guys.

1. Get your fundamentals tightened down HARD. The prettier a girl is, the more men are competing for her, and the better an option you MUST be. Specifically, you must tailor yourself to be the kind of man that SHE goes for, focusing on the qualities that you yourself have under your control. So, if you want to date a ghetto black girl and she mostly only goes for black thug guys, quit whining about how hard it is that you're some skinny white guy and go get as dirty and nasty and hood as you can - fix your accent, fix your walk, get muscles, get a couple of tattooed tears, get a little gold jewelry, or maybe a grill. OR, become one of the OTHER type she goes for - maybe she's the hood rat looking for a good man to get her out of the hood, or look for the subsection of ghetto girls who secretly long to explore the exotic world of well-dressed white men - then figure out where you can meet women like this. Find what she wants and become this, through and through. You don't want to change yourself for a woman? Tough. Just like there are women you want, and any woman who wants you is going to have to become that before you pay any attention to her at all, there are also men whom women want, and any man who wants their interest is going to have to become that before they pay him any mind.


There are different classifications of girls (goth, punk, sorority girl, cali-white girl; also age, career social status, cultural background) and a variety of different girls out there. As a seducer, it’s ideal if you can adapt to a girl from any walk of life and cater to the particular type of girl each and every time. Examples of this: tank tops work well with more liberal party girls but a button down happens to work better with a more conservative girl; with older professional women you may tease a tad less and qualify them on their accomplishments vs. a conversation with a younger girl who doesn’t know what she wants in life who you can inspire and deep dive and qualify that “yes, she should travel and becoming a traveling musician and wow, that would be quite the awesome, adventurous life for her”.

2. Next, devalue her looks. If you're mesmerized by women with tight bodies or bleached blonde hair or tattoos or whatever it is, there's an easy fix for getting over this: force yourself to evaluate women by face alone. Every time you catch yourself going, "OH my god... look at her heavenly buttocks! No woman with such bountiful buttocks would EVER date a man like me, whose buttocks are far less bountiful by comparison," give yourself a good knock on the head and force yourself to evaluate her by her face ALONE. Pretty amazing how even girls you froze up around before become EXTREMELY human when you're only looking at their faces. And, see past the makeup, too - big fake lashes and shiny lipstick and rouge on her cheeks all disappear overnight. So long as you are gasping for breath around a girl, sweating bullets, and falling all over yourself, you are shooting your own feet off with those girls. You need to get cool, inside and out, because no matter how hard you try to look cool on the outside, if you're a mess of nerves on the inside, it will show.


I struggled with this a lot in the gym (and still do at times) where girls are often so ridiculously curvy and wearing next to nothing and you can be seducing them and doing a good job with conversation/fundamental/chase framing but fuck up just so slightly with your eye contact. When talking to girls you are interested in, you have to be able to hold their gaze in an attractive fashion (explained well in the types of sexy looks article) and do it for that seductive extra few seconds. For me with some of the less dressed girls at the gym it'll be, “you’re doing good, you’re doing great, and then fuck! your eyes just wanna go to their tits, but you can’t do that so you look them in their eyes properly and end up holding the lusty mutual gaze just a few touches shorter than you would usually hold it".

It’d be so slight but I’d have to hold the eye contact just a tad shorter because otherwise my eyes would get drawn to their luscious sweaty boobies (a minor sticking point; girl won’t notice you happening to break eye contact a second or two earlier than usual, unless she’s particularly socially aware and has good game herself).

The solution I came with was partly the one that Chase gave: that yes, look at her face alone (you’ll find it’s not as attractive, often, in relation to everything else) and other than that something else to do too (in my head) is find something, anything that’s maybe not attractive about her and tell yourself “eh she has some acne, she’s not that hot” or “eh her butt could be a lot bigger she’s not that hot”. If you can get that in your head that she’s attractive but “eh not that hot, not that special, she has x flaws” it helps you be able to converse naturally, smoothly, and look at her face if you were having trouble with that before.

3. After this, look for other role models you can mimic. What other guys who are "like you" (whatever that means to you) do well with girls "like her" (again, whatever that means)? If you don't know any or can't find any examples, then you need to a.) get out more and meet more people, because trust me, I personally have met or heard a fair bit about just about every kind of man specializing in just about every kind of woman, and/or b.) move to a city that isn't population 10,000, where everyone's trapped in social circle and nobody's going to give you the opportunity to experiment much socially. If you still can't find any role models, tough cookies, go become a role model for other guys like you with the same preferences as you to follow.


Yes, I think different types of guys that can get different types of girls, and in different modes of game (gym, club, street, beach, library, coffeeshop, airplane, etc.) should be used as role models and you should pay attention to them/tweak your game to match some of the things they do. I think having a different role model of each type of a seduction helps you be able to shift and fit condition 1 and be the right type of guy for the right environment, situation, and girl. For gym game, I have a friend who’d be very extroverted/direct/touchy and sleep with new girls in the gym regularly; I found that I wasn’t getting consistent new lays with gym game doing a chill, smooth style approach (that works well for me in daygame for coffee shops or social events). I changed my style in the gym to a little more extroverted a little more direct and flirty and it helped boost my lay count/success rate with girls at my gym. Helps to find role models in each environment (for example, a guy on youtube who’s walking daygame style I like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNz_IgdukU )

4. Next, go build up lots of FEMALE FRIENDS like her, FIRST. No, don't just start approaching her. If she's this special, exotic, and wonderful to you still, you don't know anything about her and you won't connect with her. You need female friends of her sort first. Why? To get familiar with girls like her. What's she like? What are her interests? What does she talk about? What kind of men does she date? What kinds of guys does she cry over? What qualities does she detest and run away from? How does she spend her Saturday afternoons? What are her dreams in life? Why did she get that tattoo on the small of her back, or decide to start bleaching her hair, or putting in extensions? How come she has a little dog - why not a cat, or nothing? The goal here is to get to know this demographic of women SO well, that you are COMPLETELY comfortable around them, understand them inside and out, and can walk up to any girl like her with ease, thinking, "Oh, she's just like my friend," and know ALL the right buttons to push to get her interested in you. This feeds back into #1, because before you can become what she wants, you've got to KNOW what she wants.


At times when you aren’t trying to seduce a girl (with the intention of sleeping with her or sleeping with her and then dating her) but are just in a social environment, work, school, with friends, a family party, whatever; spend more time with girls. When you’ve gotten decent with girls, you’ll find that you’re an attractive guy and one that girls will like and enjoy spending time with. I think that you can learn the most from just being with girls, being around girls, (keeping smooth and charming and good fundamentals all the time of course) and then just being curious and inquisitive and asking questions and making observations of them. Don’t spend an inordinate amount of time, but spend bits of your spare time with girls; if you have a choice between spending time with guy friends or girl friends, pick the girls. As a seducer, even when you’re not actively pursuing a particular girl, you should be able to relate to girls, understand them, love them and their energy, know them and be able to understand them better than they can understand themselves. Love to be around women, and once you are socially savvy and have a decent level of experience getting new lays under your belt, spend occasional extra time you have with them.

That's your magic pill. It's time spent around a type of girl getting to know her very well. Spend enough time around a certain kind of girl, in intimate ways (good friends, lovers, girlfriends) and you WILL come to know them inside and out. They will stop being strange and exotic, and instead will become familiar, boring, and blasé.


There are a lot of types of girls and the more time you spend with each type of girl, the more reference points you get to better your process when you run into that same type of girl again. Guys that have been at it for years and years have a ton of reference points, know and understand tons of the different types of girls, and could give crazy accurate cold reads about each of them. The more experience you build the more you recognize it all; I’m young and know there are a lot of places and environments and types of girls I’ve yet to see and experience. With each new girl I make sure to be smooth and sexy, but also very inquisitive, warm and interested in understanding her and what her story is. In that way I can become familiar with her type and recognize it the next time I see it.

There is ONE other way, and that is being so goddamn solid and dominant and strong and sexy in general, and having your life so thoroughly handled, that women are an after thought to you, and you don't spend an ounce of time worrying about any of them because you're so busy working on building the things that are important to you.


I feel like I’m here; you have to be a fair bit narcissistic and improvement-oriented to get here. In my observation, if you are at this point, much of the new girls and new type of girls you meet will see this in you and be attracted to it.

I think the advantage of being there is that it helps you proceed confidently and strongly into the unknown (and experience things you may know nothing about or have any idea about).

You still won’t know the new type of girl or new type of experience and for that, building the reference point and learning would help you become familiar with the type.

It’s important to build those experiences and be able to know each of the different types of girl; if you build up to that confident/dominant state, however, you’ll be able to embark onto each unknown with poise, masculinity and inner strength and confidence.

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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Estate » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:33 pm

Wow... awesome thread guys!

So I just want to add this on the measure of success in light of the bombshell thread. How quickly success comes to guys is very dependent on what exactly you define as success.

See a lot of folks read a few articles here and think they'll be bedding these beautiful blonde bombshells immediately. No way that will happen! But all the while... This is all they focus on... The girls who are 10s to them. Then NO success comes if you define success as taking these girls to bed.

Before I ever learned of any of this I had a friend back home who'd boast how he got laid very regularly compared to the rest of the guys. Sometimes though we'd wince. Yes he got laid a lot. But mainly because his standards were very low... A lay was a lay to him. But he was cool with that. That was his measure of success. Getting laid was a win. Going home alone was a loss. He would never willingly go home alone because he couldn't take the hot blonde if her chubby friend was down that night.

The point with that story is... If you're beginning and not getting laid AT ALL, you've got to be looking at all women. I mean sure, look for attractive women but she doesn't have to be that 10. But if you ignore these and complain about lack of success then what do you expect? You don't go from owning a bus pass to being a formula 1 driver with nothing in between.

If you are learning. Learn by meeting all sorts of women any time you can. If you are not getting laid. Then bedding a 5 is success. Once that's easy... move on 6s and 7s. I plateaued myself around 8 or 9s. Really awesome girls but I just wanted to prove I could get those absolute 10s in my mind. It took time... but it meant honing skills with the 7s 8s and 9s more until I got what I really wanted... I just feel a lot of guys have this sense of entitlement like after working so hard for school and careers and doing the right things in life that the world now owes them something. But nothing works that way.
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Eternity » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:53 pm

Estate wrote:I just feel a lot of guys have this sense of entitlement like after working so hard for school and careers and doing the right things in life that the world now owes them something. But nothing works that way.


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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Altair » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:41 pm

I have a thing for hot girls. Not particularly picky about getting with the blonde bombshell but I do have a preference for good looking girls that are White because I grew up watching them on TV and seeing them in magazines. Where I live (Tennessee), these girls make up the majority, most of the girls I like are going for these kinds of guys:

1. Country boys - guys who wear camo jackets and love hunting, guys who drive pickups, and the ones who chew tobacco.

2. Frat boys - typically guys in the best ranked frats in their college that dress like southern gentlemen.

3. Athletes - football players, track runners, etc.

All these guys do have one thing in college, they are all White (no exceptions). As a male of Libyan heritage (I look visibly minority though) I have tried to break into the first 2 cliques and haven't had much luck. The guys in category 1 have told me to fuck off right to my face or hang with my own kind. The guys in category 2 have told me they don't take upperclassmen as rushes for their frat. As for category 3, well I wasn't allowed to play sports growing up so that isn't an option.

It is almost like I have the answer right in front of me but don't know what to do with it. Like I know the truth and it has made me even more miserable than I was before I knew it (ignorance is bliss perhaps?).

Now the good news is Franco has told me he has seen all colors of men do well with all kinds of women in California so I am definitely going there to see what is up but I fear these men are something bizarre. Like these aren't your average Middle Eastern looking guy but some guy who has millionaire parents and drives a fancy sports car. Problem is, I am not that guy.

I am more than willing to hit the gym and max out my looks, try new styles, and talk to over 100 women but I know that being a pro athlete and a millionaire are not something which can come easily in 2 years or even 3 years.
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Re: The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

Postby Estate » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:28 pm

@Eternity.
Thanks man. Honestly I write that because it's exactly how I came into all of this. I lived up to my early 20s being the good kid in school, good grades right through college, landed a great career and was very active in sports and stuff. It was just always what I was taught. Do the "right" things and be the good kid and you'll get the rewards later in life. Certainly that applied to some of my lifestyle but with women it didnt. Once I got over that idea that I was "owed" something and I had to put in the hard work like I did with the other stuff I had.. it all made more sense and worked out.

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Not wanting to start this debate again but it's nothing but excuses. Look there will be people who don't accept you anywhere. But you're not hearing the advice here. If you want to hang with these guys you need to be the kind of guy they hang with. Your youth was obviously much different to theirs but you haven't said HOW your trying to fit in. Just asking them to hang is often not enough. And for the last time. It's not about your skin color! Peoples attitudes, interests, way of life, social skills etc far out weight any of that and it sounds like your not adapting to what they know. You just want to be accepted without changing anything. Look.. I know that doesn't sound fair but I think on this forum at least we talk about the realities rather than being the PL Brigade preaching the world is unfair and we should all be accepted as we are. We're here to learn what it takes to succeed, not make excuses.

What you are saying about your area... I could equally say about Boston. Quite frankly... I don't fit in. Even as an Irish man in a perceived Irish city... it's so far from the truth. A native Irish person just does not identify with Boston Irish. They can be quite ignorant to real Irish culture.. but around here women are attracted to 2 types. It's a sports town so you get the big loud jock types with no style but confidence oozing from every pore. Or else you see the young professionals. They look dress and act like money pours from every pore. They grew up owning boats and spending their summer at their parents 2nd home on the cape. It's just so not the lifestyle I grew up with. Even if I initially attract a woman I struggled to understand what it took to date them as I didn't own a summer home on the cape... I didn't identify with jock culture.
But I overcame it in a few ways. I had to learn how to be around these guys and be liked. Some of it is BS but I had to to open up my social circle. I had to learn to be more like my surroundings instead of waiting for them to adapt and accept my lifestyle, how I talk and how I act. It is what it us. But if I never accepted that and worked on it.. I'd still be having a hard time.

Just some food for thought.
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I had to learn to be more like my surroundings instead of waiting for them to adapt and accept my lifestyle, how I talk and how I act. It is what it us. But if I never accepted that and worked on it.. I'd still be having a hard time.


Building off of this last statement by Estate, Chase has an article about realizing that you're not going to change society's perception of the mainstream views. Instead, you need to recognize them, find the holes in them where you can be successful, and aggressively attack those holes. Do not try to wait for people to accept you or fight against people who aren't accepting you; instead, ADAPT and BECOME what they want out of you, and then use that new, improved self-awareness to succeed in the areas of life that you've always wanted to.

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Postby PinotNoir » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:58 pm

I couldn't find the post where people were talking about this? So just creating a new one. If you remember it, I will just post this as my reply there, and someone can delete this thread.

Anyway, just wanted to mention..... I was at an Art event this weekend, and I saw an average-looking Asian guy with a white hot blonde bombshell. He had his fundamentals down tight though. Not much muscle (skinny), but had this nice form-fitting blue/white dotted shirt with sleeves rolled up a bit, hair spiked a bit, and great posture.

I almost went over and asked if I could take a picture haha.

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Postby Estate » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:20 pm

Totally right Pinot,

I understand that the guys who've worried about this on the boards are in places it's not so common but it also seems that it's just because of the demographics in those places.
Here in Boston, I honestly don't go a day without seeing guys and girls of all sorts of races, skin colors, backgrounds, etc, etc, etc.... together... it's just not even something I'd have noticed all that much only it's been talked about so much on here that when I see it now it just gives me a little smile and thinking "Hmm... wish those guys could see this".

I understand the other side of it too... where I grew up 90% of people where just white catholic Irish. You'd hardly ever see anyone dating someone very exotic looking but mainly because in the 80s/90s, there just wasn't a large population from elsewhere... that has changed a lot in the 2000's of course but I guess I've just seen both sides of it and sometimes wish some of the guys here could too.
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Postby Chase » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:12 pm

Yeah, you'll see them all over California and more and more everywhere else.

I remember when I first moved out in 2007; I didn't know many Asian dudes at the time, and most of the ones I did had Asian girlfriends. So my first buddy there is this cool, jacked Korean-American guy who gets with some consistently really super cute white girls, and then I'm working right near this short, perpetually-angry-looking Chinese-American guy with a moustache and goatee who is more ordinary than "cool", and there on his desk is this picture of him and his stunning blonde wife. All I could think was, "What is up with Asian dudes pulling hot white tail in Cali? These guys are pimps!"

Since then it's just gotten more and more common. The stereotype against Asian men seems to have gone the direction the stereotype against gamers has; whereas in 2005, hardly any white girl wanted to be caught dead with a gamer or an Asian dude, now it seems like the "in" thing for girls to do is have a gamer boyfriend or an Asian boyfriend, especially among the younger girls (at least on the West Coast anyway). If you're a male Asian gamer, I think that makes you just about a sex icon all things considered!...

Anyway, the trendy thing now increasingly seems to be for white girls to have Asian boyfriends, and this is a trend that so far as I can tell has gathered some heavy steam. I *think* it is related, at least in white America, to white Americans' increasing views of fellow white Americans as risky bets for committed relationships, so both male and female white Americans with more traditional value sets who want something stable are going for Asian gals and guys, who are perceived as being more family-oriented (and truthfully, they are).

Then there's some spillover to the party crowd, because party girls see the traditional girls going for Asian guys and then they want a piece of the action too (since party girls tend to adorn themselves with things that traditional girls like, as it helps maintain their images as "not just a party girl"). It doesn't hurt that Asian-Americans earn more on average than white Americans, either - family-oriented and professionally successful is an attractive option for someone looking for something that'll last.

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As a Korean, I like reading this

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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby The Armani Code » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:52 pm

I have been lurking the forum for a while and I am of Indian descent. It seems like Asian men have it easier now than they ever had before, even in my area I see some white girls who are cute with asian boyfriends. Chase's post has so much reality in it that it brought me back to my experience. I feel like Indian men are the new asian men, I live in CA and I rarely if ever see white girls with Indian men, ever. I have never in my life seen a blonde bombshell with an indian guy and I live in an area which has a decent sized Indian population. Women have to almost be told by society that it is okay to date a certain race and then they start dating that race and that sucks a lot for me because as an Indian guy, I love white girls. White girls are my favorite kind of girls out there and I am not talking Russian or French girls, I am talking about your typical Girl Next Door Elisha Cuthbert or Heather Graham type.

It is a very depressing feeling that intrudes my thoughts and other Indians have also confirmed it, like it doesn't matter how much game you have or how much you improve, girls seem to think in a herd mentality. White girls used to avoid Asian men but now they love them and date them quite proudly but who is there to take the place of Asian men? Indian men are the new Asian men.

I know that feeling of seeing all these black and asian guys who aren't even good looking (not the race itself but the particular individuals in question) with decent looking white girls but yet the handsome indian doctor is still married to that ugly fat brown wife. Some days I just wish that when I walk through CA I see at least one beautiful blonde holding hands with her indian lover but I have never in my life seen it. It has never happened before even in a state as diverse as CA and it pisses me off. The feeling of knowing that no matter how much you improve, how much progress you make, and how much better your mindset gets, that all of these women are going to reject you because American society (aka White America) has pointed you out as the "it" group which it is okay to pick on. This kind of shit can make guys angry and I am sure some indians on here can probably comment on it.
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby PinotNoir » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:26 pm

Hey Armani Code, welcome to the boards :)

I can't speak directly about that because I am not Indian, so I have not had the same experiences as you.

I can say that.... one of my ex-girlfriends was Chinese and only wanted to date Chinese men (which is actually pretty rare; I was kind of surprised by this). She told this to my face. We became friends. I guess I kind of "slow-gamed" it. Then after she warmed up to me -- about a couple of months -- and got her laughing, excited, etc., I asked her out, and she said yes. We dated for about 11 months.

Also, the first guy I thought of was Kal Penn (i.e., Harold & Kumar movies). He actually made a movie with him having a white girlfriend: The Namesake. This is a bit different because he already has built high status by being an actor. However, it should be good news because maybe we'll see more Indian-white relationships in media (movies/TV/etc.) that will make the white girls that you talk about more open-minded.

But hey, you could be the first man to pave the way for all Indians :) Someone has to be the first man, right?

My advice is to get your fundamentals tight (tight-fitting clothes, posture, eye contact, slow movements, deep voice, etc.). "Americanize" yourself a bit (try to copy the clothes/etc. of the white boyfriends with hot white girlfriends, but don't completely water yourself down -- don't forget your roots, girls like this). Try to build a social circle with some white guys/gals.

I see this a lot with Arabic Muslim women (with Hijabs) in my area. They create very tight groups (probably with good reason because of racism). I never see non-Muslim women with them -- ever -- and they always speak in Arabic. Some of them are hot, and I bet some of them would like to meet me. But, it takes a lot of balls to approach them, and that's not doable for most guys that haven't found this great site (GirlsChase) yet.

I'm sure there are some white women that wouldn't mind trying a bit of Indian cuisine ;) Maybe you can be the man to make this breakthrough and end up writing an article about it (maybe start a journal on the forums?). Maybe you can work on be-friending some more white guys & gals and see where that leads. Then when you're friends with a single white girl... if you're alone, building a great connection, building sexual tension (with pauses and strong eye contact), and making her laugh and feel desired and enjoying it... I think she'll look right past your ancestry. Kiss her then or ask her out after a bit of pre-heating :)

EDIT: Also, just because you haven't seen it.... doesn't make it impossible. I've never seen a polar bear in real life, but I think they exist based on other people telling me they do. In addition to my suggestion of expanding your social circle, I say you should also put your theory to the test. In 4 months, ask out 100 white women on the street, and tell me your results :) That's 25/month. Use a few articles here to up your fundamentals a bit, maybe spend a full week reading the GC articles on Basics (fundamentals, deep-diving, eye contact, etc.). I bet you'll at least get 1 to give you her number! If not, then I'll do some ridiculous challenge that you suggest, like approach 10 women with a really bad opener, "Hey, I got a wife." Whatever, your choice!
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby The Armani Code » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:56 pm

Thank you for the greetings PinotNoir.

I am American in almost every way imaginable except for my ethnic appearance, my parents aren't even that religious and my religion is catholic. Most of my friends are white guys and my appearance isn't too bad either, in fact I get told that I am quite good looking by a few indian girls who aren't even related to me. I used to date an indian girl that was known for her good looks before we broke up and I always knew that deep down I wanted a Heather Graham, Hayden Panetierre, or Sienna Miller lookalike as my girlfriend. I have seen these kinds of women with asian and black guys a few times, it isn't super common because most still prefer white guys but I see them making exceptions towards black and asian men, not towards men of my race.I have tried it all, hitting the gym to get a better body and dressing GQ only to realize that it doesn't work for me. Now I can change a lot of things but I can't change the fact that I have the same exact face as a Bollywood actor and that these women want nothing to do with me just for that. Before joining this forum I had been reading stuff from other sites too.
All in all, I have spent a good three years approaching women, talking to them, maxing out my looks, and becoming more social but I have come to admit that it just isn't my time. Imagine liking Lamborghinis and then a Lamborghini dealership opens up in your area, the dealership says "we don't sell to Indians" and there is nothing you can do about it either because this kind of discrimination is legal. So daily you drive and see guys of all colors driving these Lamborghinis and here you are with the money to buy one yet there is a rule, Lamborghini is saying that they are not going to sell their cars to someone of your ethnic background. Can you imagine the pain that would cause you?

Your struggle is that one chinese girl won't date a white guy but I see white males with asian females everywhere I go. My struggle is that almost all of the women of one group (just white american girls in general, don't even have to be blondes I love Megan Fox) won't touch a man of my background. I just wish that I knew an indian guy who was doing well with these girls because at least this way he could share a few pointers with me or something. At this point, I've pretty much peaked and given up. I don't know what else I can do.
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby Rage » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:50 am

Armani Code,

I’m an Indian guy (technically Bangladeshi but it’s the same thing) and I live in CA and I do well with girls (I’ve dated a couple of blonde girls but prefer curvy Hispanic girls and have dated many of them).

It’s not being Indian, it’s you lol (I mean that in as nice a way as possible).

Your fundamentals likely need work; if you’ve been approaching for 3 years then you haven’t been trying different things and changing up what you do, or setting goals and trying to get a different result.

The “3 years” as a length of time, doesn’t particularly matter, and you should not let that faze you (for example a corporate office worker who has worked 10 years can be outworked by an intern who has worked for a few months if the intern works deliberately, figures out what is wrong with his methods and analyzes them and then carefully goes and fixes his mistakes and consistently becomes better as a result).

This site has everything for you to go back and look at what you’re doing wrong and fix it.

You say that you’ve been lurking on the site: my advice is to start being active on the forums, start posting reports and writing down your interactions with women you are meeting. Start going out in the field and hardcore learning; guys on the board will help you whenever you’re confused or in need of practical help and you will get better if you (as Chase says) work hard and smart.

Your beliefs and paradigm are what are limiting you the most, don’t be a victim/complainer and instead be a fixer.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-master-anything

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-victim-mentality-can-stifle-your-life-%E2%80%93-and-luck-women

Oh and regarding the other Indian guys who complain about not getting hot girls: they’re losers, they’re pussies and they’re gonna marry ugly chicks when they grow up (harsh but yeah fuck them).

It’s not cause they’re Indian and it’s not because “Indian guys can’t get hot chicks” it’s because they're the equivalent of “nice guys” and “man girls like assholes but they treat the nice guy like shit!”

They are the complaining group/herd and they’ll complain and complain and not put in any work to achieve anything or endeavor to change… and so they’ll reap what they sow and get friend-zoned girl after girl till they’ll marry some “whatever’s” chick equivalent to the “whatever’s” work they put in.

I’m super Indian looking dude! And not really very good looking at all… and (forgive me; I’ll be frank and not humble for a second) women fucking love me! They want my dick… so hard!! (And it’s majorly fundamentals that lets it be that way; fundamentals on their own largely determine why one guy is attractive and another is not; a fat bald old man can be hot if he has fundamentals cough cough Sean Connery lol).

I was super skinny and shit with women; but I worked to fix it. Any problem I had, I didn’t even know if it would be possible to fix, but I said “you know what I’m gonna try my hardest, and keep trying new things and changing my methods till I find what works and then will stick to it and work my ass off at it”. I’m ugly so I decide to take better care of my hair and skin and style of dress, I’m skinny so I start to eat more and lift weights, I’m shit with girls so I decide to go out and meet more girls and get better. Anything you’re bad at or not happy with you have a choice of bettering and improving.

I put in my work and I put on 40 lbs of muscle in the last 2 years and got a whole lot better with women. At that point, women love you and compliment you and check you out and finger themselves staring at you, and your past problems are forgotten and you can just enjoy the rewards you worked so hard to get then.

What else… oh yeah, I love being Indian; in a mostly Hispanic town, (once your fundamentals are good) it means I’m exotic and foreign and sexy because of that…

Become active on the boards, really try to better yourself and stop at nothing, no matter what keep going!

That would be my advice to you… also most importantly, adopt the fixer mindset and kick the victim mindset… stop hanging out with the victim/complainer other Indians and guys like that (yeah worth mentioning stereotypical Indian guys like that are lame as shit, because they don’t work to better themselves… so I don’t hang out with them, and hang out with and associate with only guys that are intensely fixer and improvement oriented too and intent on bettering themselves and not incessantly complaining and going home and jacking off after).

Work to make progress… I’m an Indian guy and I’m telling you it’s possible, it’s doable and achievable and once you get to that point, race only becomes a silly, trivial conversational plus.

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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby PinotNoir » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:03 pm

That's a great reply by Gem. Solid gold.

3 years is a long time, but it means little if your # of approaches are low and not good quality learning/improving. In fact, you can compress the average guy's 3 years down into a month if you don't have a job and go hardcore 10 hours a day at it while focusing good quality time on what went wrong and how to improve it and trying different things.

So, the first question is....

How many girls a month did you approach? Did you try day and night game? What places did you go and were you alone?

The second question is....

What do you feel like went wrong and did you try to correct it? Did you try and persist against her resistance about Indian guys and try to change her mind? What was your process? Did you just go up to a woman, ask her out, and then call it quits on her?

It sounds like you have been improving yourself and your fundamentals, so that is at least great in and of itself, and it sounds like you've built a good social circle. Social circle doesn't sound like it has worked out though, so I think more approaches in person and following Gem's advice will get you there.
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby Franco » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:44 pm

Armani Code,

Also worth a read:


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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby ZacAdam » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:47 pm

Common guys,

Interracial dating seems to be an upcoming trend. Even the US guys travel to Korea to get girls, or find some hot ass South Korean chic.

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Postby Estate » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:49 pm

The Armani Code wrote:I have been lurking the forum for a while and I am of Indian descent. It seems like Asian men have it easier now than they ever had before, even in my area I see some white girls who are cute with asian boyfriends. Chase's post has so much reality in it that it brought me back to my experience. I feel like Indian men are the new asian men, I live in CA and I rarely if ever see white girls with Indian men, ever. I have never in my life seen a blonde bombshell with an indian guy and I live in an area which has a decent sized Indian population. Women have to almost be told by society that it is okay to date a certain race and then they start dating that race and that sucks a lot for me because as an Indian guy, I love white girls. White girls are my favorite kind of girls out there and I am not talking Russian or French girls, I am talking about your typical Girl Next Door Elisha Cuthbert or Heather Graham type.

It is a very depressing feeling that intrudes my thoughts and other Indians have also confirmed it, like it doesn't matter how much game you have or how much you improve, girls seem to think in a herd mentality. White girls used to avoid Asian men but now they love them and date them quite proudly but who is there to take the place of Asian men? Indian men are the new Asian men.

I know that feeling of seeing all these black and asian guys who aren't even good looking (not the race itself but the particular individuals in question) with decent looking white girls but yet the handsome indian doctor is still married to that ugly fat brown wife. Some days I just wish that when I walk through CA I see at least one beautiful blonde holding hands with her indian lover but I have never in my life seen it. It has never happened before even in a state as diverse as CA and it pisses me off. The feeling of knowing that no matter how much you improve, how much progress you make, and how much better your mindset gets, that all of these women are going to reject you because American society (aka White America) has pointed you out as the "it" group which it is okay to pick on. This kind of shit can make guys angry and I am sure some indians on here can probably comment on it.



Armani,
I can only talk from my experience of meeting Idian guys. I work in a sort of IT role and there are a lot of Indian guys around my age who I know directly through work or friends of friends and stuff.

Some have freaking hot girlfriends and are pretty successful. Some are long-term single and rarely get girls. But there's a pretty big difference in their general attitudes.

The few who've done really well are those who have solid fundamentals. Plain and simple. I'm not just saying it to cater to the masses here but they really do and they come across like super cool successful, nice fun guys. One thing that stands out is they don't differenciate themselves from American culture, they dive right in.

The other guys who are less successful have one thing in common. They are really quiet, shy, timid, but the main thing that sticks out is that they are very traditional and in touch with their own culture and less so the American style culture. Now, there's nothing wrong with that... but it comes down to one thing. They want these blonde party girls to validate themselves, yet are very traditional in their attitudes, interests, likes and dislikes... your average party girl would just never relate to it... yet these are the girls they want... yet they don't want to accept that they only way that would happen is to really get more into American culture. A few have VERY traditional (see: degrading) views on women too which doesn't help. I know every culture is different but an American party girl would never live the life they want as a traditional Indian wife. They really need to find more of a balance and break out of their shells and work on their fundamentals to get these women, but it's only very few that I know that have done just that.
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby The Armani Code » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:52 pm

Indian guys in my area do get with hot girls, just that almost all the time the hot girls are either indian and in some cases mexican or asian. My area has a very large indian population, one of the largest in the country and it also has a decent number of whites. I have never seen an attractive blonde with an indian guy my entire time here and I am in CA (Fremont to be exact), the Indian guys here are financially well off and quite a few are westernized and have success with asian and mexican girls but blondes are practically out of their reach. I have made friends with white guys that were cool, been called to their events and parties, and even cold approached women to find it has no success for me. It sucks to go to a party and seeing the blonde bombshell give your white friends hugs and greeting them while you are largely ignored. Quite frankly, it has frustrated me to the point that I opened up the race perspective that perhaps these women hate me because of my ethnicity and no other reason. I mean what other reason is there? Most Indian girls find nothing wrong with me and a lot of the mexican and asian girls I run into are open to getting with me but the kind of women I want hate me.

Then you look at how terribly indian men and indian culture are portrayed and see this play out in what you observe in real life, you can't help but be bitter and frustrated over this kind of shit. If I would actually see a counterexample of this in real life, a young couple, where a gorgeous blonde is making out with her sexy indian boyfriend then I could at least know that my ethnicity is not nearly as big of a deal as I am making it out to be but where are these couples? So many times I have heard people talk about an Indian friend they have who does well with hot girls that happen to be white, I live in the most liberal states in the US and I have yet to see this. Where are all these indian guys with their pretty looking white girlfriends hiding anyways?

I have seen white guys kissing black guys in public, making out and showing that they are a proud gay couple. I have seen asian guys kissing their white boyfriends in public showing how they are a proud gay couple. With all that being done, I have not once seen some gorgeous blonde making out with an indian guy, like ever and this is in CA.

Look guys, I have to admit it, I am very bitter and frustrated. On one hand I would like to do well with these kinds of women but on the other a part of me is practically starting to hate them to where even when some smile at me I just give them a glare. It's like my mind has never seen evidence that a guy of my ethnic appearance can do well with these kinds of women. I want them but I feel like I can't have them so I become bitter. It's like I wish just one day I see some gorgeous blonde with an indian guy in public but I haven't seen it, I start to believe that maybe something in society or something that I am unaware of is keeping these women far far away from men of my ethnic appearance.
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby PinotNoir » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:15 pm

Unfortunately man, we've hit a final wall. Everyone has given you solid advice, but I don't think any new "text replies" will help.

It's like the guys that keep saying "help me with approach anxiety" over and over and over. This is great, and I think it's awesome to ask for advice! The guys and articles here provide great material, inspiration, and tools. But, it eventually hits a point where there's nothing else that can be done unless we were physically there with you approaching and seeing.

Instead, you have to read through all of the replies here, and say, "Hey, these guys have really reached out and given me solid advice; I'm going to try that." Then go out and try it and come back with your new experiences and new questions.

Leave the past in the past. Let's start fresh.

Cold approach 25 white women this month. Jot down notes from each one. Then come back here to this post or create a new post and type out what you did and what their responses were.

Then we'll give you new advice and new suggestions.

Then go out and approach another 25 white women and try using the new advice.

No more text is going to help you. We'd have to physically be there with you. Because we can't be there with you, then this is really your only solution.

I apologize for being a dick and asshole, but this is the truth man. Get the fuck over the past. The guys here -- excluding myself haha -- gave you excellent, solid advice. Approach 25 new white women this month using the advice here during day game (or night), jot down notes, and then come back here and share. Then everyone here will be able to help you further. I promise this.

Right now, we're in an endless loop, and it's not going anywhere.
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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby fsc » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:10 pm

PinotNoir wrote:Unfortunately man, we've hit a final wall. Everyone has given you solid advice, but I don't think any new "text replies" will help.

It's like the guys that keep saying "help me with approach anxiety" over and over and over. This is great, and I think it's awesome to ask for advice! The guys and articles here provide great material, inspiration, and tools. But, it eventually hits a point where there's nothing else that can be done unless we were physically there with you approaching and seeing.

Instead, you have to read through all of the replies here, and say, "Hey, these guys have really reached out and given me solid advice; I'm going to try that." Then go out and try it and come back with your new experiences and new questions.

Leave the past in the past. Let's start fresh.

Cold approach 25 white women this month. Jot down notes from each one. Then come back here to this post or create a new post and type out what you did and what their responses were.

Then we'll give you new advice and new suggestions.

Then go out and approach another 25 white women and try using the new advice.

No more text is going to help you. We'd have to physically be there with you. Because we can't be there with you, then this is really your only solution.

I apologize for being a dick and asshole, but this is the truth man. Get the fuck over the past. The guys here -- excluding myself haha -- gave you excellent, solid advice. Approach 25 new white women this month using the advice here during day game (or night), jot down notes, and then come back here and share. Then everyone here will be able to help you further. I promise this.

Right now, we're in an endless loop, and it's not going anywhere.

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Re: Saw Asian dude with hot blonde bombshell

Postby Proactivity » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:18 pm

Just thought I'd post pics of Ako Rahim (arab dude) with his girlfriend.

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Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuckup?

Postby The Armani Code » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:40 pm

Throughout my many interactions with women I've noticed that there is just something different about blondes here in California at least. I have much better interactions with almost all other kinds of women but for some reason I find that blondes are just cunts and I cannot come up with a better word than that (maybe bitches?) so excuse my language .

Two weeks ago I met these two girls in class, one was a tall brunette and probably around a 7.5 to an 8 and the other was a blonde who was a 6 (obviously peroxide blonde from her looks). So I chat with the two and the brunette was far more receptive to me while the blonde was trying to get her friend's attention and steer the conversation away from what I was talking about to her. Fast forward to now the brunette is all smiles and greetings when she sees me while the blonde hardly even notices me and in the few social situations I've been in she tries to avoid me.

It isn't just an isolated incidence either because I've had a lot of these experiences with blonde. Not just me either, my friends in real life go through the same issue.

Just this past Friday afternoon I was at a Publix and I could not find what I was looking for so I go over to the nearest worker walking around (a cute blonde). The bitch is talking to these two people who she seemed to be friends with (a couple), so I try to approach her to get an idea of where the product I am looking for is.

Me: Excuse me I need help finding something in this store could you help me?
Her: *looks at me like I am dumb for even talking her though the bitch works there*
Me: well?
Her: Okay just one second *rolls eyes and goes back to talking to the couple*


That one second turned into almost half a minute until a latina that works at the store came over to me and helped me out. I mean what the fuck man! It's great that the latina decided to help me out but the bitch that should have helped me acted like a total cunt.

It doesn't stop there either. This past Saturday night I was going to go to the bar scene and had to meet up with a friend at a bar. I could not find the fucking bar no matter how hard I looked so I see a blonde standing around with black dress and high heels and decide to ask her. What does the bitch do? She decides to roll her eyes and ignores me. I ask her again and she yells "leave me alone!". What the fuck man!

Then I remember about a couple months ago when I was at a clothing store looking for a shirt, no one else around but this blonde that works there and the bitch is texting on her fucking phone. So I decide to go over and ask her about the kinds of shirts they have, she replies saying "just look over the store, they're right there!" and goes back to texting.

This isn't it either, I've countless experiences like these with blondes here in California. Other women can be mean too but it is so much more pronounced with blondes. What gives?

I am not even into em, give me a Kim Kardashian or Chloe Bennet lookalike any day but in my neck of the woods these women are so fucking women that by closing myself off from them I am cutting down on my options so much.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Smith » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:44 pm

You should take a look at your interactions and look at what your mindsets are instead of saying blondes are mean and stuckup.
Analyze your mindset, your fundamentals...etc and correct your mistakes.

Sure, there might be a few odd ones that are in a bad mood and it's completely out of your control and that's alright.
But I don't see you focusing on fixing your mistakes in this post and that's a bit worrying.
I would get away from friends that have the same issue as well. Try hang out with guys who are good with "blondes" and the difference between them will be clear to you.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Mr.Rob » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:34 pm

They have no souls.

All the ginger women have died their hair blonde and are ruling the world!!

Lol jk.

I didn't read your whole post but I'd throw a haphazard guess out that maybe your projecting your belief onto them (the world is your mirror).
Or you actually live in a place demographically speaking that has more stuck up women in it. I know some sorority chicks are that way.

In my town blondes are just as cool as any other girl I talk to.

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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Estate » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:10 pm

This topic comes up a lot on the boards.

Really... It's just your perception. Some people are warm and receptive and some are not. You're zeroing in on the blonde. Even by your own account... she's a bleach blonde so in reality she's probably actually a brunette. If it were actually something in the genes of blondes... if that were a real thing... then this girl does not have it. So the argument doesn't even hold true.

It could be anything. She's not into you or she can tell you're zeroing in on her while just being cordial to her friend.. or vice versa... she thinks you're after her friend if she's prettier and dislikes it. Maybe she has a boyfriend. Who knows.. it just sounds like it's not on with this girl but isn't saying anything about blondes the world over.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Ross » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:25 pm

I think it comes down to the hot vs. beautiful debate. Bleached blondes make their hair that way for a reason, because they are trying to appear hot. These girls have high standards for both themselves and men, which leads to some extra bitchiness on their part, especially towards men that don't meet such standards or who may be doing something that they find socially awkward.

Here's some more reading on the subject: https://www.girlschase.com/content/youre ... lest-girls
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby The Armani Code » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:19 am

I am not saying it's a genetics thing and maybe I should've titled it to why are girls that dye their hair blonde so mean. Here in California, these women are numerous and make up large amounts of the population in more affluent areas. As for guys who are good with them, the ones you would think, the jocks in high school and college or the rich guys that grew up around them. I don't get it, sometimes these guys are legitimately ugly too (busted up face) yet I see these women being nice to them but for some reason they're just cunts to me and a few others. In my neck of the woods, quite a few of these girls are kinda racist. They're nice to guys who are white but are more cold towards minorities, I live in a more conservative part of the state. I am not white so I am guessing these girls are being rude to me because I don't fit the image of the rich white guy, hate to pin this on race but I have a suspicion that might be the case here.

Like I know any girl of any background can be mean or stuckup but it is so much more pronounced with blondes for some reason, don't get it at all.

Even if they aren't directly cold, I feel like so many of them are paranoid. They feel that the entire world is out to get them and do their best to distance themselves from most men and avoid them. It's hard to describe in words but Ice Queen is the best description I've heard from guys. These girls are a large portion of the population in my state so its not like I can avoid them that easily.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby The Armani Code » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:24 am

Estate wrote:This topic comes up a lot on the boards.

Really... It's just your perception. Some people are warm and receptive and some are not. You're zeroing in on the blonde. Even by your own account... she's a bleach blonde so in reality she's probably actually a brunette. If it were actually something in the genes of blondes... if that were a real thing... then this girl does not have it. So the argument doesn't even hold true.

It could be anything. She's not into you or she can tell you're zeroing in on her while just being cordial to her friend.. or vice versa... she thinks you're after her friend if she's prettier and dislikes it. Maybe she has a boyfriend. Who knows.. it just sounds like it's not on with this girl but isn't saying anything about blondes the world over.


Well I have a friend that went to Denmark (he's Mexican) and he told me that women there were a lot nicer than women here in California, he obviously meant blondes. I know its not a world wide or even an American thing but it certainly is a California thing, maybe guys on here from California can give more insight into it.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby J.J. » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:12 am

Like Estate said, you're probably carrying a prejudice against blondes. Your subconscious beliefs will sabotage your interactions with people. Even if you're actively trying to be friendly/upbeat, if your internal state and mindset reflects otherwise, people will feel it.

Emotions are contagious. And whatever feeling you carry with you in that moment, will be felt by her. So likely, you have hangups/prejudices/biases against these women. You might be sending negative vibes. She might feel your fear or whatever unpleasant emotion because you've got a hidden agenda or your mindset is poor and she's picking up on this emotion, and rationalizing it as, "this guy is weirdo/ is creepy/ a downer/ etc."

And that's only considering it from your end. You have to control your own outputs, but in the end, you have to account for her own state as well. She may be in a bad mood, has a boyfriend, assumes you're hitting on her and is turned off by it, doesn't find you attractive, etc. And not all people are polite or friendly. Just because you run into a girl that is unfriendly, that happens to be blonde, or even a handful, or several of these women, doesn't mean you can generalize that all blonde women are like that.

In my experience, I have met some very friendly, warm and kind "blonde" women. You have to control the vibe and emotions you are projecting onto other people, and once you're in a good place mentally and emotionally, and at that point, you'll see that some people are just socially retarded or just really maladjusted and do not know how to treat other people. And if that is the case, why would you want to meet a woman who is socially inept and rude for no reason? I wouldn't waste my time with those types of women anyway.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Franco » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:13 pm

Armani Code,

You should read the article that Ross linked.

I've lived in Southern California all of my life, and I know what type of "bitchiness" you are encountering, and none of it is really out of "pure hatred" of men. For them, it's really just a screening tool. If you're able to put up with her initial "bitch shield" and slice right through it (by being unfazed and fundamentally sound), then you'll reach her core personality (which is usually 500x better than the one she displays for strangers). If you end up bedding these girls, they usually become total "kittens" around you and act more nice than any girl you've ever known. This is also part of the reason they need the bitch shield: they know their hearts are vulnerable (and have probably have been stepped on by numerous men) so they need to protect themselves as best as possible.

A "bitch shield" is a two-fold defense for them -- it helps them not only keep themselves away from "douchey" guys just trying to get into their pants, but it also helps filter out the "weak" men as well. So if you're not sure how to get past this shield yet, it either means you're coming across as to "gamey/douchey" OR you are still coming across as too weak fundamentally. If she senses that she can get under your skin in the VERY first interaction that you have with her, what does that communicate to her about anything long-term that you'll have with her?

That's just something to think about with these women.

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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby lux7 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:12 pm

Might be down to several factors.

One being "self selection" like already being state: bleached blonds have done a personal choice to try (hard) to look hotter, so they might naturally end towards a "snottier" and "bitchier" behavior.
Like a guy that drives a Harley with tattoos is "more likely to be more aggressive than the average guy". No big whoops there, it just makes sense, it's the harleys and tattoos that attract more aggressive dudes, not the tattoos themselves that make him more aggressive :).

The second factor might be these girls tend to attract more male attention, including the annoying ones like catcalls, winks, "cop a feel attention" etc. which reinforces their annoyed attitude towards the male population.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Estate » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:45 pm

Really there's a few factors in play I feel....

- As mentioned, by carrying this assumption, it can cloud your intereactions with blonde women. Youre already more attracted to them because they are blonde so even if she's a 6 and the brunette is an 8, you're probably treating them differently.

- Some girls ARE bitchy. There's no denying that. A lot of blondes who are attractive get more attention, simply because guys put it on that pedastel. How many "brunettes are bitchy" threads do you see? Not many... Because guys care about the blondes thus they get more attention and learn to deal with it as such. They can't be receptive to every guy.

- You need to up your game. See the last point. They are bitchy because they get unwanted attention. You need to up your game to the point they deem you to be someone they want attention from. This is the core problem.

- You see what you want sometimes. If I told you green is the most common color car people buy you might say I'm crazy, almost nobody has a green car.... now go out tomorrow and count how many green cars you see... I bet it's a lot more than you thought, now that it's actually active in your mind. Same goes here... if you're looking for bitchy blondes, you'll find bitchy blondes.

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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Proactivity » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:55 pm

I am going to come from another perspective on this whole blondes thing, also mentioned it in the blonde bombshells thread.

Growing up in Kansas, I saw it for myself from high school all the way to the adult world. You know a guy regardless of his background was doing well when he had a blonde by his arms. In high school, it was the football team captain with the blonde cheerleader by his arms. In college it was usually the football players or the rich frat boys with the blonde by their arms. Even now in the real world I see it, the blondes usually get the highest quality men of any race they want.
In general, blondes are a lot more image conscious and cold than other kinds of women. Truth is that most blondes you see walking around aren't really natural blondes, they're bottle blondes trying to climb the status ladder. Coincidentally, these kinds of women are found in groups with a more shallow outlook such as sororities.

It's just an American (or anglo culture) thing too, I've met blondes from Europe who were not in anyway like this. The irony is, the blondes I met from Europe were also a lot more physically appealing. It's just how American culture is, the whole blonde bombshell image has been pushed down our throats to where we associated blondes with all sorts of positive stereotypes when it comes to sex. Blondes with good looks are also the most sought after women throughout the country so you have guys aggressively hitting on them and flirting with them. I've seen it for myself, whenever I am out with a blonde I get a lot more looks.
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Re: Girlschase: Might just be a hair color but why are blondes so mean and stuck

Postby Estate » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:15 am

Proactivity wrote:It's just an American (or anglo culture) thing too, I've met blondes from Europe who were not in anyway like this. The irony is, the blondes I met from Europe were also a lot more physically appealing.


I've got to disagree with this. It's a common mis-conception advocated by PUAs like Roosh who blow smoke up peoples asses.

If you live anywhere in the world you can pick out women like this, and women not like this. In Ireland, the UK, and other places in Europe I've visted/lived/worked, guys say the exact same things all over. The grass always seems greener. Even here, I've met guys from West Coast telling me Boston girls are so much more "real" and not fake like the West Coast. In Boston I hear guys lamenting how girls are so much better and nicer in New York, Montreal, Miami, how girls are hotter on the West Coast.
Guys ask me about Ireland and have this starry eyed fantasy that every girl is a little innocent virgin "lassie" waiting for the worldly American to come sweep her off her feet and having grown up there I can tell you that's NOT the case.

Same goes with the obsession about Sorrorities. I mean, I HAVE seen where you guys are coming from about the blonde college girls, but I saw it myself in my own college days where there was no concept of the whole American Greek culture.
Even now, in this society, I know nothing of that culture, I have never been part of it. Right now, I've been dating a pretty cute blonde myself for the last couple of weeks, who I know was in a sorority in college but it's hardly come up besides her telling me about where she went to school. I'm not in her "in" crowd. I know nothing of it, infact, the first moment I met her I could have described her as cold and aloof but I pushed past it and within about 20-30 minutes of talking, she was flirting and touching me.

I understand where you guys are coming from. Some girls can be the bitchiest, and yes, many of them are smoking hot blondes because they get a lot of attention.

But instead of blaming them as the problem, work on your game, and you'll see these girls don't fart roses, they are exactly like everyone else once you get them out of their "Oh god, another lame dude trying to chat me up" mode.
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