Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'



Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Tue May 15, 2018 11:01 pm

Monday

My old drinking buddy came back into town and I had a pushback on a work assignment to decided to put everything off and party on a Monday night. We went way too hard and I regret not going home earlier. With his trajectory, I don't see this pattern stopping any time soon (we would typically go on week long benders whenever he'd be in town in the past) of me rationalizing an excuse to throw everything to the side to spend time with a good friend.

My other friend who I thought might be a sociopath earlier this year(?) actually revealed to me something along the lines of this, again. He's charming & dominant, and a times ingenuine, which sparked my distrust in him. I noticed that he never closes with girls that he games though and began to wonder why, so when we got a moment I asked him. He said that the psychological satisfaction of knowing he could, then choosing not to, is more of a reward than getting his dick wet is. And this dude is a full out, 100% BMOC natural - he's much better than me at social circle and had our bartender wrapped around his finger the entire night, we got free drinks and food because of him. In one way it made me think of a recent comment Seppuku made, that once you learn seduction you can use it for whatever you want - which can be applied here. At the same time the egotistical basis of what he explicitly said is troubling. Or he was rationalizing an inability to close. Doesn't change how I interact with him, but I wanted to make note of this.

Tuesday - FR++: No Eye Contact

I texted that black chick because our date was today and got her on the phone since she ghosted me from when I tried setting up a nudes. I reestablished a warm vibe with her over the phone then tried to get her over before she did shit with her friends, and had to persist a little bit.

When our date time rolls around it's pouring so I call her and just invite her straight over and she declines. I change the plans to another place and she agrees, then it stops raining and we go. I had to force myself not to double text / call and not chase, which was hard but probably served me later on.

I wait at the bar and when she rolls over we sit on the patio. Her fucking body.. god damn. I didn't notice from when I met her drunk. Then my first fuck up, I try to open the door and the bar's not open for another 30 minutes. I laugh at myself and invite her straight home, she says no and I persist, then say we're just gonna kick it on the patio for now. We chit chat and I start finding more out about her and using touch until the owners roll up and angrily say it's gonna be another 10 minutes (we were on their property). I use plausible deniability to say we'll wait at my house for another 10 minutes then come back.

We go to my house and sit on the couch, I have her take her shoes off. I get closer to her after pouring us a drink (all I had was watered down alcohol I saved from an after party, which I didn't remember wasn't even close to a substantial drink) and eventually line up a kiss. Her face goes stoic after I pull off, and I felt like it was her forcing herself - it didn't feel real. We talk some more and I go for another kiss and she pulls off after like 3 seconds. I was pulling too much and not using enough push so I back off after this.

The whole time, she won't look at me directly. She'd either face the TV, or dart her eyes away after contact for 1 second. It was really annoying, actually, but I maintained a warm, cool vibe and tone most the whole time. She tries to demand that I get rid of my droid and get an iPhone, and it was really dismissive and off - so I just laugh at her for trying to push that on me so dogmatically and eventually she cracks. I tell her to lay down with me and she won't (I had planned on going the Narrow J route and putting my dick on her ass, then starting to make out, but she stopped complying around here).

After pulling off hard at one point, I see her pull out a dollar for some reason I don't remember and I make fun of her saying she has to tip me for the drinks (me being a server). I get much more physical with her and have my hands up and down her legs. I pull her into me and bring up the interaction at the pool, and I can smell her musk and her getting wet, so I knew this was all just a face she was putting up for whatever reason. I go in for a kiss again and she pulls off almost immediately. I have her lean into me more on the couch and try to slip my hand down her pants onto her beautiful ass, and she removes my hand. I tried getting physical like this about 2-3 more times, and she keeps resisting, then starts playing on her phone. No eye contact still. I ask her, "so you're not to into the whole giving people eye contact thing, are you? (;" and she says it's just me, because of my eyes, and eventually that it's because they're so piercing.

There was a funny moment where she asked about my major and I explained that I fuck with people that go "can you read my mind?" when they find out I'm psychology and I pretend to cold read them then go "you.... are really into..... anal", and she lost it. Helped bring sexual energy back too, but she'd always go back to stoicism.

I pull off entirely because she's not complying, not letting me escalate, and generally making things very difficult. I put the glasses away and as I enter the bathroom tell her she's free to join her friends. I come back and sit next to her and say almost nothing as music plays. She asks me what a typical day is like for me and instead of using some sexual humor or joke (I start off by having a five-some with the Kardashians, then drink a bottle of champagne before work, you?) I answer her with some of my daily routines, then go back to ignoring her, and repeating she's free to head out.

She stands up, puts grabs her shoes and says "I'm so pissed", I ask why and she says "there's mud on my shoes", and I say nothing. She puts her shoes on then looks at me (extendedly, woo!) with this lustful, enthralled look and asks if I'm walking her out. I say, "oooh noow you're looking at me. you know where the door is" and go back to my phone. She smiles and kind of scrunches her face and goes "oookay you're being weird" and leaves. I say "nice talking to you" (regret that, don't reward noncompliance & resistance) and she walks out.

Maybe I'll invite her over again in a week if she doesn't text me. :P
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Ambiance » Tue May 15, 2018 11:50 pm

Sup Hue,

Four pages! I was wondering when this day would arrive. Gets strenuous having to scroll down so much when I check out your posts lol

Your BMoC friend seems like an interesting guy.

About the black chick my thought is that you moved too fast. Which may have been your intention- I've purposefully moved what I thought was way too fast many times. If you weren't feeling experimental though, from what I can tell she wasn't comfortable when you made your move, and that kinda showed your cards which gave you an uphill battle.

I think if instead of going for the kiss you could have done something else that's more under the radar and would have turned her on giving you the power. There was once this one girl who was being difficult with me and I could kinda tell would resist kissing me, but instead I started escalating below her waist on a high note and kept doing more and more half nonchalantly and got her super, super horny to the point she was begging to kiss/fuck me. I orchestrated us to get alone, and then it was smooth sailing.

Plenty of other times I've been in your exact position and gone for kisses and fucked things up.

My thought is that there comes a point where you get advanced enough to pull back a bit on the move fast paradigm and get inside the girl's head and escalate accordingly. Your girl would have fucked you if she had been less in control.

Anyway, you're doing better than I am these days so I guess who am I to say what to do?! Hahaha keep it coming brother:)

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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed May 16, 2018 12:43 am

Ambiance,

Four pages! I was wondering when this day would arrive. Gets strenuous having to scroll down so much when I check out your posts lol

Once I hit masterpimp god level I'm gonna have to make another journal, Before I Self Destruct, to learn handling reputation & keep up with the 50 Cent references.

Your BMoC friend seems like an interesting guy.

Yea he's pretty cool, but just not trustworthy - he was telling me last night in like 5th grade he learned just how much power he had messing with people and figuring out how to persuade / charm. Now that he's 22 those things happen on a different scale. He's buddy buddy with you until you're not needed, so I have to keep him at arm's length. As far as game goes, I've learned a great deal watching him.

Come to think of it I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people I used to be closer to keep me at arm's length because of how quickly I disappear when I'm out drinking with them (sometimes once the social proof is there and I'm locked in there's no reason for me to stick around).


instead I started escalating below her waist on a high note and kept doing more and more half nonchalantly and got her super, super horny to the point she was begging to kiss/fuck me. I orchestrated us to get alone, and then it was smooth sailing.

Yeah man I tried this and while she'd let me rub her legs / ass, whenever I started feeling up her ass below her pants she'd physically remove my hand. I've used this before and it can get really high arousal which has been the main basis of my game in the recent months.

To reiterate though, you were escalating like that in a public setting before getting her alone? I've seen this work wonders too because if you're discreetly getting her turned on it's your dirty little secret which is always fun.

My thought is that there comes a point where you get advanced enough to pull back a bit on the move fast paradigm and get inside the girl's head and escalate accordingly. Your girl would have fucked you if she had been less in control.

Yea, I'm thinking what my game might need right now is practicing some of Alek's gambits. Like really stealing their attention with a verbal + nonverbal combo with something like the mirror or getting really good at sex talk so that they start imagining wondrous things in their head.

Anyway, you're doing better than I am these days so I guess who am I to say what to do?! Hahaha keep it coming brother:)

Ay bro, I'm on a new girl dry spell so we're in a similar boat. Your semester is almost over right? Go big! Bang your professor during her next office hours!
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Ambiance » Wed May 16, 2018 1:59 am

To reiterate though, you were escalating like that in a public setting before getting her alone? I've seen this work wonders too because if you're discreetly getting her turned on it's your dirty little secret which is always fun.


It was a girl from work. We had this amazing vibe but she had just found out I had taken another girl from work out the previous week:P Half my escalation was in public when no one was looking, and the other half in the break room.

Funny story: I was fingering her in the coat room attached to the break room and this new guy who was obsessed with her came in and back where we were and started asking her all these questions meant to interrupt us. Meanwhile im standing beside/behind her with a finger in her ass. She was so red hahahaha
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun May 20, 2018 11:54 am

Funny story: I was fingering her in the coat room attached to the break room and this new guy who was obsessed with her came in and back where we were and started asking her all these questions meant to interrupt us. Meanwhile im standing beside/behind her with a finger in her ass. She was so red hahahaha


Love it lol. "Why is your finger in her ass?" - Sincerely new guy

Also that little box next to the Last Post username takes you immediately to the most recent post so you don't have to scroll & click through - thought I'd mention.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun May 20, 2018 12:47 pm

Wednesday

Met an old coworker at the bar (the one I almost had a threesome with). The other girl, HB9 Japanese instagram obsessed chick, has an interesting development. My coworker says that her and one other girl from their normally tight clique have more or less isolated themselves from the group, and then without warning of any kind said that they're leaving to Florida together. Both have been posting slightly stranger insta's (one girl posted a screenshot of someone texting them, "You are art") and allegedly dropping cookie crumbs of lesbianness for months.

I told my coworker I don't want to be judgemental and let her ramble mainly. My actual thoughts from a collection of stories she's told me about the girl & my own experience is that she's an attention seeking girl who gets lots of external validation (she would send mass texts at like 4 AM to play games with guys, she posts very alluring instagram photos, she's broken down on the phone to my coworker about how she wants to be with her, she only interacts with guys on the superficial level) who is probably lesbian / bi and uncomfortable with that, especially since the majority of her validation comes from orbiter guys, and this is somewhat a necessary growth for her in exploring her personal territory. I feel like a crazy person writing that out since there's so much I don't know about her personal situation, but if I had to guess.. that'd be the case :P

I had a lot of fun talking to her, and have noticed my general enjoyment of women has been increasing of late and I'm starting to appreciate them more.


Also then Thing 1 was at the bar and I spiked arousal by pulling her into me by the waist after having just talked about sex. with her after talking to her for about 20 minutes. I like her (personality) and she's hot. I know she wants to fuck me but she has a boyfriend, and I set up us going to a concert later this month.


Thursday

Went out with my Day 1 and the bar was an all out sausage fest. I started conversation with some fella who seemed more than interested to get to know me, then ejected to talk to a girl standing about 5 ft away. She was friendly and all, but she had a boyfriend who was actually brothers with the guy I was just talking to - so all that fizzled out.

We go to another bar and a girl from HS sees me and calls me over. I start talking to her and her hot friends, but then see one is a girl who I tried to get on a date last year after a new years party and felt the negative preselection immediately from her body language in reintroducing herself. Then my day 1 (quite tall and exceptionally good looking, but introverted & weird) jumps into convo and it's all eye on him, but then all he does is talk about himself. It made me uncomfortable (his interjection, seeing all the girls' eyes light up, as well as his conversational style) and so I stand around until they stop listening then go back to my other friends who are there.

One guys girlfriend in this group was giving me IOI's and I kinda just kept flirting with her knowing it might break into something, but treading lightly as to not bring attention to the boyfriend who I'm acquaintances with. Nothing ended up happening from it but the components were set up for a hook up (after party, her being annoyed with the bf, etc.) - the after party just got shut down mad quick.

There was one girl standing with a guy at the closing time of the bar, who then separated from him and was kinda standing there alone. Instinctively I walk up to her and ask her for her name, and she's happily surprised by my approach, explaining it's her birthday and her friends have left her. I start to shake away from more superficial topics and right then my day 1 walks up and overrides the conversation by talking about himself. We have no chemistry approaching chicks - and I have tried to give him suggestions and he doesn't like them. The uber was pulling up for the after party so I just hop the fence and leave him with the girl because she seemed interested. Found out yesterday he did not smash.


Friday (best night of the week)

I get invited to the girl's field hockey team for my school. They have tons of hot chicks and I've been to their parties before and almost hooked up with an HB8 before getting cockblocked by the mother hen. My two friends, Tuna & Clam are dating girls who are either on or know the team, and I'm just the cool sexy friend who get's pulled along. I have fun talking with Clam's girl but Tuna's gf doesn't seem to like me, but eh her loss.

We roll up to the party and it's medium energy, I come in low energy and kinda poke my head around to get a gyst of the vibe, then strike up conversation with some people playing games. I'm looking dope as fuck with a black denim button down, grey shorts, watch & necklace - also my new haircut is blossoming. They seem pretty focused on the game so I let them be and return to my group where we take shots. Then a new girl comes in and I introduce myself, and we establish an us against the world frame because we're both not on a sports team but at this party - minorities in the group.

The conversation stops when I ask for her name again, Lea, and she assumes I was trying to end it by doing so / she wanted it to end. I talk to some other dude that just rolled up and he's younger and it's very apparent. I ask him what all he does and he just keeps repeating shit like "living life, taking names, building fire, etc." without saying anything. In a friendly and amused manner I ask him what he means and he gets visibly nervous lol. I end up talking with him about relationships and say, "ah naw dude I'm single now too! It's fun!" and we were being quite loud by the conclusion of the convo.

I talk with the girls who's on music and put a dope new song on, and by the end of the convo she's giving me IOI's, but she's only an HB6 so I'm not down (yet lol). Another girl floats near us and I start talking to her too, and my mood and vibe is barreling forward with momentum. I jump over to a couch area with some newer people and make quick friends with the guys and girls there, so I'm in social butterfly mode.

We go over to another house party (the guys soccer team) and I was "leading the charge" with myself, Clam, and Clam's girlfriend so the guy at the door gets rather close to me and gives me the "who do you know here?" and I am unfazed, and happily explain I'm with Clam's girlfriend. He's being super serious (doesn't seem like a cool guy) and eventually lets me in - I just laugh it off and say I get it, I was in a frat too, you can't be letting rando's in all the time.

Then it get's really fun, and I spike my attraction with everyone at the party. This party is much more high energy and there's about 6 girls all dancing with one another pretty hard. I start busting out my moves and getting into the music, singing along and such, and this black chick starts dancing around me, so I spin around and basically doing a joking-grind on her. with my ass shaking in her direction. Now I'm locked into these 6 girls who I don't know dancing and we're all kinda bumping into eachother and being physical. I just let this build and keep dancing how I am, then when it feels right doing a joking-grind. Occasionally I would stop and talk with Clam's girlfriend and make fun of Clam for being such a buzzkill (he had stopped drinking and was sitting in the corner) and having a good time with her. At one point I asked the doorman to get me a beer and he did.

This spikes when I decide, fuck it, I'm grinding with this black chick. I start grinding into her in a way more sexual way, and lock in my legs with hers, facing her, and we basically just hump eachother. I end up grabbing her ass (a pretty nice thing) and boom - attraction spike. Right after this Clam tells me, "dude, that guy looks so pissed at you", referring to the doorman. I laugh at that because I know all the guys probably hate the attractive dude that comes out of nowhere, drinking their beer and dancing with their women - and I low key got off on it. Then I turn back towards the girls and I'm getting IOI's like crazy, and from girls who weren't really paying attention to me before. This is a product of us being social creatures and preselection as it's described - I got to see it again first hand.

I start talking with Lea again and things are going well (though I could have moved faster). I stop inside and see mother hen talking with a bunch of girls, and no one inside is giving me any IOI's. On the contrary, they seem annoyed with me. This is the other affect of spiking attraction, which was made even worse because of my near hookup with the HB8 last year that mother hen shot down. I see the effect and go back outside, and now everyone's gonna leave to a bar. Fuuuck, I was just getting started motherfuckers. We go to the bar and mother hen pull Lea aside and they stick to eachother like glue for the rest of the night.

Then I got too drunk, saw that I was getting cockblocked and left. My other approaches didn't work. It was odd because I felt aware of everything around me, but my body language and speech showed everyone that I was shit faced. Like I was operating a malfunctioning machine. I had one really sloppy number close to finish the night, the girl seemed pissed off when I handed her her phone back.

I get booty texted by Venezuela who wants to cheat on her boyfriend, go to her house and fuck her. Saturday morning she bought me food and dropped me off at home, then we talked about relationships, sex, and life at my house. She asked about my lay count (deflected) and my ex gf. I decide to tell her the story and she sits there and listens. It was nice to talk with a girl about the matter, actually. I know that me and her won't ever go beyond FWB's, and I tried to make it clear there's other women in my life (despite my dry spell).


EDIT:

Saturday I had a girl stop me in the middle of my shift and ask if she could have some water. She was a super cute HB8 latina. She was apologizing for my inconvenience, and with deep eye contact I told her, "that's alright, you're allowed to be thirsty", and whenever I filled up her tables waters she would stare at me hard. I really wanted to talk with her further but I felt weird doing it and ultimatley pussied out. Right before she left she was looking down, sad.

I wonder if I'm just too caught in my head about how I influence others (I definitely do that sometimes) but I wonder if this was just her way of telling me to talk to her with the intense eye contact and asking me for a water. Idk.

Anyways I'm trying to use more plausibly deniable innuendo to make the girl be the one making the sexual frames or ideation. "You're allowed to be thirsty" is a good example of this.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Mon May 21, 2018 1:47 am

Just listened to Joe Rogan's take on working out and Franco's podcast on discipline.

Two major takeaways with these two things together.

1). I'm not disciplined enough. The dynamic Joe Rogan talks about, how when you tell yourself "fuck it" that breeds more "fuck it's" and your psychological & physical ecosystem starts to shut down. This is the same as a reply I made to Ree's post on revenge and how if you feed maladaptive behaviors they just continue to grow.

Last week I was supposed to "get my shit together" but instead went out on a bender and neglected my work during the beginnings of the week. My boss was pissed, deservedly.

2). The beast VS modern man thing that Franco talks about in his podcast, when I get off my discipline I regress back into the "beast" that I more or less was at my old school. The difference is that the modern MAN still can bring the beast out, and it made me remember when I was writing about how I polarized in the other direction and was being too much of a pussy, I tranquilized the beast more or less. My structure when I go out to try and get pussy isn't rule based - I'm just living my life and swinging the bat at pitches that come my way so there's less consistency as practiced seducers.

One main thing I need to do going forward is to make some strict rules, but to add them one at a time.

Too often I'll try to change a hundred of my variables at once and get so highly motivated "Ima do this, and Ima do this, and..." and then I'll go hard as fuck for a week, then not do at least 2-3 of the 7 things I said I'm gonna start doing in a week. So, one at a time. First MUST be exercise. Once I'm autonomous for 2 weeks of exercise, work, and research THEN I can become STRICT on other things, like coding/music/reading. Not to say I can't do those things for the next two weeks, but I can't make rules until I refine one behavior at at time. This is hows habits are formed.


Part of me knows, from my time as an intern for an addiction counselor that this is because I let myself say fuck it when my drinking buddy came back to town and we went really hard on a Monday night - that regresses to old behavior and just fucks up your whole week and I let that happen. I should have gone home earlier, and skipped the after party. I went to 4 after parties this week, like jesus fuck - it's not worth it! Lol. I'll take some time into my private journal tomorrow and lay down some rules, like start going out with the intention to not get stupid drunk (because if I can't have discipline to hold my liquor, I definitely don't have the discipline to not walk up to the after party next door).
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed May 23, 2018 2:10 pm

Been going hard as fuck in the gym compared to my usual and starting to enjoy it again already. Going again as soon as I finish writing this.

HB8 Bartender Compliance Test
Last night I went out with my buddy and his bro to a bar. As soon as we get there the usual "see everyone I know" happens and I get all the high fives & blah blah blah. That HB8 bartender from the concert last month was there and looking sexy. I immediately give her a compliance test to stand outside with me and she says "no I need to get a water because I'm starting to get drunk" and I take a sip of her water and she goes, "and you need one too". I tell her to get me a water as I continue walking out which is another compliance test and me holding frame. She doesn't find me to get me a water, so the test failed. I wonder though, if "and you need one too" was her being like, "come with me" and I could have still held frame by continuing in my path and saying I'll find her in a second, then rerouting 5 minutes later or so and go up to her. I also feel like this move lowered attainability in the way I executed it.

"I'm walking to my car"
I had one other approach because I heard this HB7 latina on the phone like "I'm walking to my car right now" and not walking to her car so when she was done I tried to get a second with her, but she kept walking and moments later she was tagged up with some dude at the bar. She was bullshitting somebody on the phone which I presumed to be some orbiter or a boyfriend - with my recent fascination with cuckolding somebody I was immediately drawn to it.

Objectifying Me
My coworkers were at the bar and bought me shots which was mad fun - and once one of them was drunk they told me they had a "round table" of girls & gay guys about OBJECTIFYING ME (lolololol) and basically summed me up, talked about how big they thought my dick was (I told her I had a micropenis), who thought I was hot, etc. I was being touchy with one of the gay guys and the girl told me, "Hue stop he's literally getting an erection from you doing that" which I thought was hilarious - it's nothing to me to grab a straight guys ass, so it's nothing for me to grab a gay guys ass.. but apparently quite the opposite for the gay guy lol.



Then my friends I came with were looking to me for what to do because they're not autonomous at the bar like I usually am, and out of respect we go home around 1:30. Then my buddy left to buy more cigs and I was with his brother. They're literally the same person except his little bro is a lot more energetic and social (how I wish my buddy was) and I made the mistake of saying I liked him more because of this. Bad move. Not necessary, alcohol induced, and all it does is piss in the punch bowl. I hope that out of respect the brother doesn't tell him this, but that's unlikely because brotherhood is a strong bond where respect is typically the highest agent (unlike the case with my blood brother). With other people I wouldn't think a comment like this is that big of a deal but my friend in particular would take this as betrayal - he's very sensitive to interpersonal relationships. Then again I'm his closest friend so.. I digress.

My coworkers invited me out to drink with them tonight too, should be fun ;P
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Thu May 24, 2018 4:28 pm

Bitch Shields Ain't Shit
One thing I forgot from Tuesday. Childish Gambino's new song, This is America is (one, amazing) kind of a mindfuck for me whenever it comes on - because I"ll start jamming and then realize the darkness that comes along with the song, and how I'm literally acting out the very phenomena Gambino is drawing in his art.

So at the bar I saw these two girls dancing when it came on, and wanted to know what they thought about the dissonance. I go up to them and ask the hot one what she thinks and she gives me a bitchy look and tone and more or less tries to block me out. I remain calm and peachy and turn to her friend and ask her what she thinks, and immediately the bitchy one's body language changes up and she invests more in the conversation. Bitch shield, detected. Wanted to make note of that - not all rejections are truly rejections.


"Jennifer Aniston" is a player
Found out that not only is my coworker not single, but that she's collecting orbiters like it's her job. Tuna is my coworker now and he told me that she wants to fuck him. I didn't negate what he said, but told him my thoughts on her - and the red flag of her telling me she cheated on her boyfriend. There's also a new guy that was just hired, also straight - I befriended him pretty easily. He loves to party and drink, so I think we'll get along - though when we went out he said he'd have one beer and had like 7 lol so proceeding with caution.

So J.A. comes to the bar we're at and just to test the waters I talk with her a little bit and tap her upper leg - she remains friendly but shortly after walks to another group of people. 10 minutes later it's me tuna and the new guy and she comes over to us and the new guy starts pouring all this attention into her. I leave and talk to some other people, then come back and she starts having a very similar conversation with the new guy that she had with me on the first day, and the same that Tuna said they'd had.

She dangles the possibility of getting with you, or a relationship window in front of you to make you chase. Then once you do she starts friend zoning you, occasionally dangling it in front of you again.

I stop feeding her much attention and later on in the night she comes up to me and does a really flirty arm grab then leaves - she's an attention seeking girl. So to smash I have to balance not giving her practically any investment and occasionally doing a jab of arousal / chase frames, etc.

Flirting With Fat Chicks
I met one of the other coworkers that I've somehow missed for 3 months at my job and had a cool conversation with her, she's obviously attracted, but she's not attractive and fat. She offered me some blow, and to come to an after party after the bars close. I said I'd maybe be down for an afterparty, though I didn't mean it as a sexual invitation. The bars close and she somehow got my number and triple texts me to meet up (saying my house, or hers), then calls me.

I know you're supposed to flirt with all girls, and I have been most recently - it's fun. Girls are fun. But, I essentially lead her to believe I wanted to fuck. I don't want to hurt her feelings or see the backlash of potential autorejection behavior as a defense mechanism.

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I also approached two girls, one who wouldn't make eye contact and was being weird as fuck, another who said she'd come find me in the pool room, but when she came back I was talking with the weirdo and this turned her off. Both were HB6's. The bar we were at is an odd place, I don't think I'll be going back too often.

Then Tuna and I walk to his apartment and get in a semi-argument/discussion about what I was essentially describing as social calibration w/o using GC terms, and how statements are loaded with sub-statements. We drew a lot out of the discussion on people / life in general which is good, but he got mad at a few points possibly because I was "saging" him. We tight tho.


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Going out again tonight and feeling great. Specific goal for the night: Open at least 5 chicks, and have at least 2 of them be a double set where I open the friend and say something along the lines of, "hey I just wanted to stop you for a second, your friend is really cute and I had to talk to her. You mind if I steal her a second?". I wanna see how that plays out. Also I'm going to a restaurant/bar later and I want to test the waters of going up to a table and trying to steal girls attention - may do that if the opportunity presents itself.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Mon May 28, 2018 2:01 am

Thursday

I went out with some friends for beers, then margaritas. At the patio of the margarita joint I saw an older looking woman blowing bubble gum. She looked hot because of the gum so I went up to her and asked her if I could have some gum, then moments later told her I just thought she was cute. Turns out she's actually really into blowing gum, she's got a job selling art, and she leaves in a different city. We talk for about 10 minutes and I throw a sexual frame or two then ask her to get a drink. She doesn't drink, but would like to get tea/coffee. I get her number and return to my friends who think it's hilarious I just went up to a random woman like that.

The kitchen manager where I work see's me drinking and stops at the patio to talk (one of, like 5 people who I knew that happened to pass by). Her gay friend asks for my number and we all chat for a few minutes and she leaves. More on her later.

Then we go to another bar and I open some girl I've never seen because my friend is busy talking, and deep dive almost immediately. When my friend can chat again I tell him I'm leaving to a party and go.

At the party it's mostly sophomore chicks and a couple dudes, and my friend. Right when I walk in this kid is leaving the house shirtless, clearly having just been in a fight. I make note of it and go up to my friend, steal some liquor on the table, and head downstairs where everyone is playing games. Probably about 10-15 people total. I start trying out my affect on any of the girls and testing the waters, and the most receptive is the birthday girl.

We chat, flirt, and play pong. By the end of the game my hand had been above her ass (though not actually grabbing it) and she was cool with it, giving me more IOI's as things go along. I move her upstairs and actually isolate her on the couch, where I remember she was looking intensely at me. If I was going to pull I should have pulled then.

More people come in and the party continues with talking, cake, games, and the usual. Eventually my friend leaves - and birthday girl is still sticking on my side. The rest of the shit that happened can be found in my recent post in General about me asking her to come up stairs, her friend objecting, her coming up and then leaving. About 30 minutes after that I was using the bathroom and a girl walked in so I explored the upstairs a little more, then the birthday girl comes up too, right as the girl pissing walk out. I was near the stair case and there was shit all up and down it so I asked them to come over and look at it, because I thought it was weird.

The one girl leaves and then the birthday girl stays. I lean on the wall and talk to her, bringing up some subtle thing I thought was weird about the alpha chick's (crazy bitch who just started tons of drama with her boyfriend, claiming he hit her) behavior and she slowly goes, "yea that was weird", and goes back down stairs. I understand nothings gonna happen with her and I tonight so I go downstairs and find my (dead) phone where I left it on the chair. Right before I walk out I give the girl my number and leave.

The next morning I get texts accusing me of trying to rape her and the rest is found here.


Saturday

I was out of town the rest of the weekend but got home around 10 for a night out with my coworkers. It's all girls and me, with two other dudes. We go to a gay bar and I'm leading the pack, and as Alek described about people being sexually open there, it's totally true. We talked about dildo's versus dick flesh, lesbians, gays, me being straight (two non-coworker girls made CLEAR body language changes when it got brought up, as if they were blushing and looking down). The drinks at the gay bar were strong as fuck and I got drunk much faster than expected.

At one point everyone is talking except this hot brunette who looks annoyed (she has a boyfriend but seemed interested in me whenever we talked) and no one was giving her attention. I had tried to make a point to but never got the chance before we left to the next bar. At the next bar the bartender knows me and gives me a free beer, then a guy in the bathroom also knows me and offers me some of his free goods.

I go back to where my friend are and this HB7 blonde comes up to me with the sexiest fucking walk and says she knows who I am, that we went to high school together. I have no idea who this chick is and I'm really drunk - I don't remember what I said to her, really. I think I might have come off as condescending because she approached me in a high green light way and I didn't know who she was. Lost her though.

Then I ditched the girls I came with for some other coworkers who came through and they texted me angrily which I ignored. I don't remember a whole lot at the other bar either but it was fun with my coworkers. I'm really excited for this new social scene I'm gaining a place in and what lies ahead with us going out, as well as what I'll learn from hanging out with so many women all the time.


Sunday

All my girl coworkers are being touchy with me, and I noticed how often they test my frame now. It's really fun actually and I think this is great experience with frame control & shit tests. For example, I was lost in thought reminiscing about how I could have fucked this chick last night and I aloud say,
Me: Fuck.
Her: ? What's up?
Me: Just some shit from last night I just now remembered..
Me: I was hammered...
Her: Who did you fuck last night Hue? What'd you do?
Me: No it's what I didn't do.
Her: Oh. Who didn't you fuck?
Me: Some girl from my HS, I didn't know her.
Her: blah blah
Other Coworker: Haha what? (just hearing us) You were trying to fuck [first girl] last night?
Me: She wishes (;
Other Coworker: Haha ooh yeaa.
Her: Huh! Yea! I would break your fucking dick and tear it off!
Me: Awww.
Her: Blah blah I'm a crazy bitch blah
Me: Honey, that's so cute (:


Totally disarms her and makes her look insane. A shit test, though.

Another example,
Her: (different girl) Please please please take my close tonight Hue )))):
Me: No, I can't hun sorry.
Her: Why? What's your reason? Just take it.
Me: Internship, gotta work project.
Her: Pleeeease, I'll do anything.
Me: ...anything?
Her: Okay, well, I just can't do sexual favors while at work.
Me: But those are my favorite kind!
Her: Haha yea I know! Not that though.
Me: Ahh too bad. You know, I don't want one anyways.


Here I give her a sexual window and she takes it. Then I slightly screw up because of using the word, "but" because it makes it look as though I'm chasing her for sexual favors, so I backtrack and say. "I don't want one anyways". Not an optimal development, but these are the subtle differences that you need to get really good.

Then later on the other coworker was bringing up to me on separate occasions how:

1). It's her and her bf's 3 yr anniversary and she's pumped because she doesn't have to see her boyfriend. He's busy with some event and she sarcastically goes "oooh no, I can't make it!" (:
2). Her boyfriend never touches her and she loves getting her hair played with.

She's cute but a little too hefty for my taste, and not a great body shape. Point being she's dropping nuggets of information, or windows for me to dive into that could potentially end in something.

It just really seemed like today girls were testing my frame and dropping cookie crumbs of interest / touching me /etc. I even had one girl lightly push me on the wall with her hands on my shoulders and give me a super sexy look.

One thing I'm skeptical on that I did was while I was rolling silverware I had music playing and this song comes on and it's completely silent in the manager's office (it's a large office, but still) with just the kitchen manager and I in there. It's perfectly normal to be silent during silverware rolling / play music while you do it but...

This song fucking drips with sex and is about giving women orgasms. I think it's a great fucking song, but even with our backs facing each other you could feel the tension (not sexual, just TENSION). I forced myself not to change it as an experiment. Part of me also did it just to try and plant sexual seeds in her head because she's hot. I should note this isn't my main boss, but rather the kitchen's boss. There's no chance I could fuck my actual boss but because of the slight disconnect of our function I still consider it a prospect.


Tinder matched a high prospect girl who's only here for the summer. Will include texts if it turns into a LR or an interesting experience.


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Putting together a post on my thoughts about the state of gender politics, culture, and how micro understandings of life create macro waves and influences. Too busy at the current moment to post it.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Smurf » Mon May 28, 2018 7:38 am

Yo dude the journal is lookin' good! Sorry I haven't stopped by in a while.

I like how when you're out you are on "your path" no matter what. That's definitely something I need to work on. Most guys just stick with whatever group they come with even if its detrimental to their process at night.

Super short but just thought I'd stop by real quick, your growth is incredible man!

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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed May 30, 2018 2:51 am

Smurf,

Thanks bro! It took me a while to actually become comfortable being able to say, "Hey - I'm doing [this]. Bye." because not everyone will react well to that. Now it's kind of understood that's how I roll with my closer knit groups and they almost expect it. I told my friends that I wish we would meet new people / new groups of girls to hang out with and they never gave the idea the time of day so I took in into my own hands.

As a result of me "working that muscle" I honestly feel like I could go out and make friends with total strangers for the night, though I don't necessarily want to do that just because I can. It's starting to prove helpful with dealing with or "seducing" her friends (guys/girls).

Last year when I had a coaching session from Hector (it was based on formulating Rogue King) he told me once you have enough value socially, ditching your friends is something they can't really hate you for, because ultimately they're mad at you for not giving them attention. They like you so they want you there more. I don't see it as a manipulative tool but more just a fact of the matter. I have had two friends call me out on ditching them saying it makes me a shitty friend, but we still hang out just as frequently.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed May 30, 2018 3:57 am

Monday

My Day 1 friend who's exceptionally good looking but weird (let's call him James Franco) invited me to go out with him and I figured eh fuck it, why not? We eventually end up at a bar with a good Monday night deal and watch some sports, and lose a game of pool. There's a thicc HB6.5, and her not so good looking friend also watching the game that I spot eyeing me.

James Franco leaves kinda at random, and I'm there with one of his friends (kind of a squid). We keep watching the game a bit and then I without warning I approach the girl, kind of using the game as an excuse to sit next to her. James Franco's friend leaves immediately lol. I find out what team she's rooting for and I happen to be rooting for the other team, so I tease her about liking the wrong team. She's actually far more knowledgeable about the sport than I am which becomes apparent very quickly, but I bullshit best I can and make it more about how I'm teasing her than the factual basis of my reasoning, which worked fine.

I notice her friend's body language changes now that we've been talking for a little bit in my peripheral, so I look over at her. This was enough for my girl (let's call her Lohan because her freckles are super cute) to introduce me. I ask the friend questions confirming my teases with her, like "she knows that her team's losing the finals right?" or just confirmatory questions/teases like "is she actually 21?". This engages the friend, while keeping my girl at bay and letting me lead the conversation. I did this during times of transition of conversation to and away from her friend, as I saw needed.

We talk and I start to escalate touch more, but I was careful to temper it this time with a subtle push and pull. Like instead of say, having our legs touching, then go back to me sitting further from her, I would change it to just our knees touching as the "push" motion, or I would lean back a little more, but just a little more so that it didn't seem like I was reconsidering - but also not overly excited.

She has to go to the bathroom and I'm warm and nonchalant, letting her and her friend go up. They're obviously talking about me. I go to the other bathroom and see some girls I know. One of them is hot so I come up and keep talking to them. I engage the one I know and ask about the hot one, to find out she's going to med school. She's actually quite awkward and can't do well with eye contact, continuously looking to the friend to talk. I stall long as I can and then once something I say get's little to know response, I end the interaction and slowly make my way toward the bench we were on.

Somewhat of a crucial moment here, because now it shows if I'm waiting around for them, or if I'm doing my own thing at the bar. I sit for a second, and then get up and walk up to the bar almost at the exact same time that they leave the bathroom and go directly to the bar. I just ordered a water to go with my beer, then return to my seat, and they got beers and joined me. Had I just sat at the seat the entire time, it would have pushed me in a chasing position.

Once they come back to me I move us outside and they comply immediately. We have a lot more fun talking in a group setting this time, but at one point they started to geek out about chick flix and I was losing adequate control (I was also sitting across from them now and needed to get closer) of the conversation so I told them, "okay, I'm gonna let you get this all out while I go get my beer, I don't think you've gushed about Mean Girls yet, so have at it... brb." then go get a beer.

When I return I come around to their side and we keep talking. Now they start asking me tons of questions, basically screening me. It started with things like what child-hood tunes I watch, and I give them basic answers with a little switch up at the end saying "I was far too young and innocent at the time, but Ren and Stimpey was definitely in my catalog and shook my world", which Lohan happens to relate to. Then she asks me my biggest weakness and I make fun of her for the interview question, then tell her "I'm too pretty" and get a "ewwwww" back, so I tone it down slightly by asking what that Michael Scott answer is, "I'm too hard working or whatever", and holding strong body language the whole time to not give up my frame (to show I'm not adapting to her). Shortly after this I can't remember the question but I explain how I recently called out my friend because he was being racist and I don't put up with that shit, and don't care for that fact that he chooses to be ignorant of others (I could write more about the actual scenario but unnecessary).

It starts to come into question as to what we'll be doing, and my girl has class tomorrow morning. She asks where I live and then rubs my leg with hers (I wonder if I could have pulled right there, but there was still the friend to deal with). I suggest we go to a different bar closer to their house, and after a little bit of back and forth they let me lead them out of the bar. We walk and I get a little physical on the way there.

Once there we get the Monday deal, but I give my girl a water shot because of the recent happenings with drunk girls / to tease her. Before I can make the joke happen though this CLEAR freshman tries giving my girls shots and is being obnoxious about it. He was at the point of being like "c'mon, take my shot. Take it", and she didn't want his shot, and handed it off to me. I look him in the eye as she hands it to me and go, "she's good man" (; and he stares me down for a bit then fucks off. I give her her water shot and her friend and I take the others and sit back down.

I tell her where to sit and she does, giving me the chance to feel up her legs way more. Then she invites me up and actually buys me a shot, and before we sit back down I invite her home with me. She says she's not fucking me and I tell her we're just gonna play mario kart, and that while I'm very direct I never asked her to fuck. She says she likes how direct I am and that she'll come home with me, after hesitating a little bit.

When we sit back down her friend is asking us for relationship advice and I make a risky move by speaking from experience and saying, "I've had girls text me like that and the bombardment of texts has totally turned me off" and Lohan goes "oooh all these girrrrlllss texting meee", because it nudged my attainability out of the sweet spot. I held frame and she met me where I was at. I decide to close things down and we agree we're walking the friend home, but then RIGHT before the important turn, Lohan says she's going home with her friend now.

I almost lost frame because I was so surprised, but then just keep walking with them slightly out of my path home. They're about to head in and I ask the friend, can I talk to Lohan for a sec? loud enough for both to hear, and then pull her a little close and invite her home again. She objects to sex and I explain again I've never said that, but I like hanging out with her right now and I think she does too so we should stay along. She agrees, but wants to use the bathroom at her place first (btw she lives with 11 girls and doesn't want to have me over).

I get free pizza inside and we start walking back, it was an enjoyable, playful walk. We get back to my house and I can't get the N64 set up so we listen to music and I kiss her and ramp physicality. We end up watching a music documentary that she likes and hooking up here and there in between. There was one surge of passion where I should have started fingering her but didn't strike the iron during the appropriate moment and lost momentum.

I eventually carry her into my bed during one of our makeout sessions (and I was sucking on her tits now) and we get pretty hot and heavy but she eventually objects saying she needs to sleep because it was like 4:00 AM and she had to be home at 8:00 (no she didn't), I persist all I can, but in a very playful, nonchalant, and cool way. We had a lot of fun together, and I wasn't gonna be playing games. I through a bunch of chase frames as I escalated too, which helped. She stays the night and gets out of bed before I wake up the next morning, and I got her number and walked her out with a passionate kiss.


Tuesday

I've recently picked up Swing dancing and it's a whole lotta fun (also a goldmine for girls). Today I was having a 25 y/o HB7 with HUGE TITS and in graduate school, show me how to dance (after she was giving me shit for practicing by myself and I said "what? my partner is totally mad cute") and I invited her to teach me a bit. We'll call her Pumpkin (for a cinderella joke she made). We dance and talk (I'm still terrible) and she teaches me a new kinda schimmy I hadn't learned yet and invested a bunch. Once I got it down we just talk and talk, it didn't feel like effort at all. She's getting her N.P. at the hospital I do research at, and we both studied the same things in undergraduate.

I move her to a different part of the building and find out more things about her interests. We kinda just had natural chemistry and I was able to throw in a few sexual frame windows,

Me: "I get it you're untamable"
Her: "Mmm, yes in a number of ways"

but most of it was just playful banter. I ask if she's single and she excitedly goes "I am!! Are you??" and I go "yea, lucky you!" and she makes a little squeal. She's goofy, I like it. I actually got a halfy right after her being so receptive to me asking. If I was a better dancer I would have made us dance again, but I didn't wanna screw up the "garden" I'd just had blossom. Logistics were screwed because she's just about to leave town, but then she asked for my number and we did a phone exchange.

I dance with one more cute girl, a PhD student at my school actually, but she was super awkward, before my phone dies and I head home. Not even 30 minutes later I get a text from Pumpkin saying it was nice to meet and dance with me.

Of the whole interaction I only fumbled at the end because I couldn't smoothly get logistics set up, but I more or less have her in a chasing position right now so we should be able to work things out. I'll call her this weekend.
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Postby Hue » Thu May 31, 2018 9:01 am

Wednesday

One of my jobs has us doing field research. Had a chance to dive deeper with this hot brunette earlier by asking if she was working out with her dog because she walked out of the gym (where we're researching) and I asked, "was he spotting you?". I petted him and she explained she just walks him around the court and then looked at me with a cute smile, she told me the dog's name. I should have said with as much romantic swag as possible, "and yours is?" but didn't.

I got of work early and eventually headed to a concert with Thing 1. Her friends birthday was that night and served as a constant roadblock. Whenever Thing 1 and I were talking to each other, we'd be sucked into each other's eyes. Long story short we banged. It took a lot of persistence, outcome independence, and us vs the world framing. She was a fucking freak. I'm covered in scratches, bruises, and bite marks writing this - fucking exhausted. I'll try and write a more detailed LR later... way over depleted in this moment.

She has a boyfriend, and despite my interest in banging a girl with a boyfriend - the insights on crossing that line are bitter sweet. Apparently she snap chatted him something at 4 AM, fucking yikes.

While I was out with them I had a cute indian chick approach me and get my number. Also had two girls open me on the street today. Idk if it's just coincidence or what, but pretty neat. Mmk. Back to bed.
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Postby Hue » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:53 pm

Thursday

Took me a while to recover from staying up all night with Thing 1 so I took it easy and eventually went out to a bar. I didn't feel like pulling, but received a lot of IOI's. I saw Lohan out, used preselection with this hot chick I'm friends with and eventually went up to her. I tried to pull but she wasn't feeling it that night, and something I said came across as ultimatum of if we bang or not and she didn't comply.

Friday (Day Time)

Matched a girl on Tinder. Turns out we went to HS together but never talked. Gonna call her PIzza Girl.

LR: "Well what if I want yours?"

Yesterday I tinder matched with a HB6 brunette.
Me: (ambiance opener) sorry I don't think I can have you around me rn, you're way to cute and tempting
Her: Ugh such a shame you're missing out x)
Me: that so? well if you have good taste in drinks I may be able to compromise ;P
Her: Of course I have good taste in drinks :) def a beer girl, hate most wine, do't mind a few mixed drinks
Me: hmm, well lets see how you fair with margaritas, those are hands down my favorite (:
Her: I'd be down for a marg x) x)
Me: Okay sweet, what's your schedule looking like
Her: Nice! I'm pretty free tomorrow & saturday.. I"ll be out of town next week tho :(
Me: okay lets' do tomorrow around 3-4~. I actually just found out [pizza place] on [street] makes margs so lets' go there
Her: [pizza place] makes margs???? I don't believe you
Her: But yeah sure that works for me x)
Me: right x) okay sweet, I"ll message you around then (:
Her: Sounds good :)

Next day

Me: hey Pizza Girl we still on for today?
Her: Yes!
Me: okay, lets' meet at [pizza place] at 3:30. see you there (:
Her: Sounds good!


I roll up right at 3:30 and get my marg and a cup for water. She comes in right as I'm filling up my water and I pretend not to see her. She approaches me and goes, is it Hue or Hueman? (not really my name, but the point is [name] or [full name]). I hug her and say "hey great to see you! It's Hue, I'm not that classy".

We sit down at a round booth so touching is easy. We start by talking about superficial things and when she mentions her Mom works at my university, I assume her highschool and we went to the same one. We talk about our different schools and I find out shes' Social Chair of her sorority. I tease her about being ms. popular, when I ask her what "role" she plays at the party. She gave me a long winded answer about being social chair and after some follow up questions I explain by "role" I meant is she the "mom" character? the social butterfly? the sad girl in the corner? and get a better idea of what I'm working with.

We talked about different alcohols, music (where I brought up The Divine Feminine, she totally was into my explanation of Mac Miller's love of women, sex, and the nurturer). I made a stupid mistake and tried to pull her too early when we were half-way done with our drinks, but after she said no I changed topics, brought back similarity by talking about sport events at our highschool, and then brought up the music again to say that I should show you some of mine, then getting her to talk about her favorite, EDM. We agree to show eachother music at my house and then I change topics again to the fun aspects of work.

By now we're sitting rather close and I push & pull by going to the bathroom and giving her touch withdrawal. I come back smiling and say it's funny that she asked my actual name and it turns out we were at the same HS. We talk a little bit more about how things are different from then to now (she used to be afraid of guys) and I chase frame a bit saying that I'm an exception.

I look outside to see the weather has gotten nicer, and instead of "let's go to my house" I say, "let's walk", and we leave. I thank the bartender on the way out. We stroll to my house with good vibes, and then once on my block she says she doesn't know if she should go home with me. I say why's that and continue walking, and she says she doesnt' hook up with guys on the first date. I never said anything about hooking up, only she did, and I inform her of that lol and change subjects.

We get to my house and put on music, sit down, cuddle up, and I let the vibe build. I can't remember exactly what I said before I kissed her. I was talking about how Ariana Grande looks so wet in the music video, as if she had just had an orgasm, the pause and ask if she's ever had one... an orgasm. She says I think so and I laugh and tell her she would certainly know if she did. Her face gets red and she smiles so I pull her into me a little more, and I'm feeling up her upper legs.

We make out and I pull off and compliment her lips, then go back in in a few minutes. The escalation went rather smoothly, and she was a really good kisser. I get her in my bed and have no resistance until I start fingering her and my dick is out. Then she said that she doesn't fuck guys on the first date, and that she doesn't really know me for about 10 minutes of back and forth and making out. I said a few things along the lines of "I won't think any different of you", "I'm not really a stranger though", "we don't have to do anything you don't want to do", and a yes ladder. She was super wet which helped.

The final blow as when she said we can wait for sex, and I said if it feels right now I think we should, but I'm not telling her how to think or feel - that's up to her.
Her: How do I know you're not just gonna pump & dump me?
Me: Why, because you don't have my number? *romantic stare*
Her: Yea
Me: *slowly move head closer* Well, what if I want yours?


We start passionately making out, and the panties come off, she's stroking the fuck out of my dick and I'm finger blasting her until finally those magic words come out, "do you have a condom?". I say "yes, do you want me to fuck you?", and she says "yes.". She asks how many girl have been in this bed and I say "like 10 a day".

We bang in cowgirl and she was suuuper tight. She got really into it towards the end and once we got locked into rhythm it was really enjoyable. We spoon after and I tell her this was one of my most enjoyable tinder dates, as it was easily my most enjoyable but I didn't want to give her too much. I drive her to her car and she texts me 20 minutes later with positive vibes.
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Postby Hue » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:28 am

Friday Night
Went to a party, befriended everybody and was leading the squad. Got bored, and was invited to a SweetBros party so I ditched to hang with them. Didn't have a whole lotta fun when I got there because this particular group is very snobby. Also my buddy, King, (alpha of the group) has such a tight grip on everyone's attention the entire time it's hard for me in the role I play with these guys. I did have some good conversations with one of the guys there who is definitely reading the "intellectual dark web" (gah I hate that term) and should really reach out to him more.

Had a girl approach me at the bar we went to, and approached two sorority girls who were friends with the SweetBros but they got away from me with all the fratty drunk shit. Went to hang out with the guys I was with earlier but they were too drunk at that point to really converse with so after bumping into a couple other people at that bar, I approached a blondey who I invested too much with too quickly. Got bored around 1 and went home to listen to Kanye's album - pretty good imo.

I wonder what effect having sex BEFORE I go out has on this and my testosterone / sex drive being satiated.

Saturday
I have a huge hickey on my arm from Thing 1. Girls at my tables were all taking notice, and I was being flirty as fuck with all my tables. I got two numbers, and had one girl ask for my instagram. One of the girls was writing her number down in front of her dad who had just tipped me 15 cash and he looked sooo pissed.

I have strong reason to think the HB9 bartender dislikes me though - she's rather cold to me even though everyone else is nice / flirty with me. Maybe she smells something on me or I rubbed her the wrong way.

Sunday
My coworkers started to call me out about the hickey and I just said it was "a little kiss" and mainly said nothing. My manager when we were slightly more isolated (but in clear earshot) said, "what kind of shit are you doing to have a hickey on your bicep? that's for your neck!" and I just kinda gave him a blank, somewhat expressionless stare. What was I supposed to say? Maybe just very calmly and clearly say, "having rough kinky sex", and go back to work. Lol whatever.

Then there were two girls who work at a "brother" bar to ours and when they let me know I talked / flirted with them more. I was kinda a dick actually, and definitely pushed attainability too low - but they were super cool the whole time. At the end of the shift one of the girls somewhat made a development and said she was waiting for me to clock out to give me her friend's number, and asked if I was interested in her and blah blah blah. It was in front of all the other girls too - I just played it cool and said "I'm not not interested" and let her write the number down.

Afterward one girl asked me, "Hue, was that a no?", and I just went, "what? :P". I clocked out then came back to grab something about 30 minutes later and this girl was being sooo bubbly with me when I came back. My intuition says she was just talking about me.

I'm at the point where I can slap the asses of my girl coworkers and they giggle, as well as play fight with them, touch them, or call them bitches. I love it. I'm trying to slowly speak more sexually with my manager - other than Jennifer Aniston, she's the one I want in this social circle. I made her laugh and complimented her in a slightly sexual way, but it's just not natural for me to be so direct with my boss.

Monday
I think this girl at the gym wanted me to open her but I didn't know how :P

Had a date with Pumpkin and it went very well. She is crazy fucking smart. We went to get margaritas and I slowly built touch. The hickey on my arm was dope actually because it immediately made the conversation sexual. We ended up going to my house and hooking up & talking for a long time, but she was on her period so I didn't get beyond fingering her + handjob.
I have a feeling we'll have great sexual chemistry our next date.

Couple things I did:
- was positive + nonreactive to her saying sexual shit (good & bad)
- flirted with the male bartender and acted like there was a side romance going on
- didn't tell her "I had a good time" at the end of the date or set up a second one
- was totally cool with not having sex on the 1st date despite persisting
- got her naked after initial resistance
- overall just held frame much better than usual.


I think that one of the MOST important things in seduction is learning how to hold frame - but first you need to actually understand what that frame is and why it creates the reaction/effect in people that it does. In addition, having an adaptable ability to switch frame to certain situations is very powerful and makes shit tests, persistence, and dashes of romance help you much more.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:08 pm

Tuesday

There was a group of black chicks at the bar and I took way too long to approach the hot one. This is annoying to her because she can probably tell that you want to approach, and when you don't it has her puzzling the pieces as to why, which never really works in your favor (even if it makes her insecure or something, that makes her less comfortable and hurts attainability).

I was getting a drink and moving through the bar-mob and apparently was rude in my movements - to which I had two of the girls in the group bitch at me. I tried to touch the hot one's arm and make light of it and got a "don't touch me!" and a stare down between two of the girls. I just gave them a "wtf?" kind of look and kept moving.

Eventually I floated over to her and said, "are you always like this?" and she gave me a huge smile and said "yes." so I felt like it was an act she was putting on for her friends. Didn't follow it up with a good question or direction (I asked where'd they'd been before this - probably nowhere) and couldn't hook.

Wednesday

Jennifer Aniston is a stripper, ex boyfriend who she still fucks is a 40 y/o sex addict. Case closed. Female player / temptress type.

Floated near a black girl at the bar and then came into her bubble and got her number after escalating touch and commenting on her awesome tits. Date this Sunday.

Thursday

I did pretty damn well going out. I used social proof and preselection with this asian chick, had an old coworker coming onto me, and positioned that to try to hook up with a girl from my HS. They were event telling me that they were watching me and commenting on what a social butterfly I was.

I literally had her wet talking to her and it was in the fucking bag - I smelled her musk sitting down with her. I was moving compliance to us playing pool and to separate her and her friend more so while getting physical / teasing - but I demanded that she use her ID to get the cue ball. She excitedly agreed and then both friends disappeared after that, so I think that her friend caught wind of my compliance tactics / thought it was douchey and they never came back. So instead I flirted with about 4 girls that were playing pool but the hot one had her boyfriend there with her.

Isolated one chick and got too romantic, though I had her investing and talking about relationships and how people need to be growing together. She was really cool. I had the idea pop in my head of using "The Shadow" concept as a gambit and plan to develop it.

Immediately after I was talking to a blondey with a BF and asked her if she was a nice girl or a bitch. She said she was nice and I called bullshit and said that everyone is both, and that she is a bitch too (this is the idea of the gambit I'm creating). She disagreed and I paused and said, "throw your drink in my face". She was shocked and a little frozen and I grinned and said "do it." She wouldn't do it so I tapped her ass and told her to do it. Still frozen (thinking about it) and so I did it again and she threw it in my face - and I'm just sitting there stone walling and smiling and ask her "how'd that feel?". All her friends are shocked and I comment I told her to. The ridiculousness of the entire thing combined with my nonreactive behavior definitely did something...

After this she was TOTALLY HOOKED, with a kind of "who is this guy??" kind of vibe so I moved us outside and had her sit down with me. Her friends ripped her off me and left the bar, probably confused as hell that she through a drink at me then left to sit down.

I sloppily approached one other group and was too drunk to make it work. Then I'm pretty sure a gay guy tried to roofie me so I got the fuck out of there. If there's ever anybody that is strongly suggesting that you drink a drink they're giving you, fucking leave. A friend of mine was roofied by a gay dude (apparently there's a fetish for banging hot straight guys) and it's something I try to be aware of.

Friday

Went on a Tinder date before work - she was not as attractive as her profile. I didn't want to be a huge douche and so I talked to her, and was really turned off by her personality (she said she's in a "fuck all men" kind of state) and made up an excuse to leave then deleted her number. Bleh.

Had the cutest woman at my table, but she was with her husband. Apparently she was asking about me to my coworkers saying I was cute with beautiful eyes, but I couldn't think of a discreet way to get her number.

Went out with my friends once I was off and was leading the group the most of the time, we had drinks at my bar then went to another down the block.

I was quickly approached by a girl from the bar on Thursday, HB7. I talked with her a little bit but her body language showed she wasn't hooked, then her other HB7 friend approached and they were hooked. I felt way more of a vibe with the second girl but they're equally beautiful. Right after they hook a girl from my HS comes up to me like "Huuuue!" and I hug her and stop talking to the other girls - I saw them transitioning inside while I was outside and motioned them to follow but they just stopped and stared at me smiling so I kept on moving.

Shortly after this I see a girl I went on a date with last year (can't rememeber her pseudoname - HB7 Indian chick with huge tits) and immediately hook. I have her leaning into me trying to kiss me within 20 seconds, she was drunk. I tell her that she's very tempting but I can't do anything because she's drunk, plus my friends are leaving and outside the bar. I start leaving and the chase frame literally has her following me. I get outside and look around for my friends, and she's standing at the railing looking at me smiling.

I go up to her and she tries to kiss me. I tell her "I'm not doing it with this rail in between us, that's no way to make out." and move around to the other side of the railing, then tell her to hop the rail and help her over. We move in between some cars and she pushes me on a van and we start making out pretty hard. Then her friend starts calling her and she pulls off to answer it and walks off. I just stand there and she comes back, and I slowly let her kiss me again, teasing the whole time, then go really hard and feel her up and she's moaning - then I break it off and leave to my friends and she yells begging me to text her lol.

Finally we got some food and went home. Fun times.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:18 am

The darkest thing about this entire game of life is how quickly you can become another person.

The things that you project in your mind can become reality - a tool of humanity, a tool of infection. Very little utility grows from misunderstood repetition. As is reputation lol. Fuck I'm stoned.

Saturday
Tried to get my day one laid and his girl had LMR.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:01 am

Monday I fucked Pumpkin, as per the LR: Swing Dancing & Chemistry.

Tuesday I got into some deep convos with some good friends, and got a black chicks number with a few other approaches.

Wednesday I stayed in because I had too much going on

Thursday my friends and I got fucked up and I ended up having a rad time at one of my favorite bars (literally everyone I was cool with was there), we late nighted for some real good convo, but ultimately I had a dark moment with my old roommate and behaved very negatively toward the end of the night and kicked a few people out of my house.

Friday I went to a SweetBro's party and it became very apparent that I am not respected / necessarily liked there anymore by the general consensus of the frat dudes. There are many reasons I think this dynamic came about but I don't feel the need to go into too much detail - as I truly don't care. My association with their frat as a whole is nothing more than to have access to their scene - it's a nice opportunity but I can still get what I want without being in their snobby group (that's the joke of their pseudoname anyways). When I was out with them some of my closer friends (as a joke and they love talking shit) recorded me in a set with a petite HB7 brunette and a sexy HB8 latina - their audio to my mannerisms is fucking hilarious. I'm not gonna lie, I fucking killed the set. It was one of my best. Too tired to write it up now (having just worked 18 hours straight). Ended up hooking up with the HB7 brunette but couldn't get her away from her friends - though I had an opportunity to fuck her outside the house we ubered home to for after hours and botched it (my nose started bleeding, thanks to me and my impulsive drug use). I also couldn't have done after hours because of...


FR+: Gorgeous 32 Year Old
Today (Saturday) I worked a hell-shift, and made a lot of cash. This super cool thing happened though, towards the end.
It made me think, how far can I go with this pick up shit? So this woman sits at my table, and immediately I'm attracted to her vibe and mannerisms. She's a strong HB8 in her face, with a pretty good - decent body. She gets there before her friend and is just so cute in the way she's waiting around for her and talking to me, though she's introverted.

I sat her table for almost 6 hours, basically flirting the whole time. There were multiple moments of doubt where I'd either say something that didn't land perfectly or make a risky sex joke with a sub par delivery because of how fucking exhausted I was from this hell-shift, though through most of it she was laughing or investing in conversation. She's 32 and owns her own business. There was a lot of.. what I call parallel conversation, where you describe the dynamic of something as you talk about that thing, though you're really talking about someone else. Basically extended-innuendo. It's something that Richard picked up on right away, and you used to be able to find in his older FR's. I think this is how a lot of experienced, high screening women play game, but this is kinda advanced so more on that later.

I'm so tired I can't remember everything but I will try and make it a priority to get everything down - my brain is just fucking mush right now. So basically she tells me that she goes out with herself a lot and often time stays until the bar closes, because that's when things become the most fun. I took this as a window to have fun with me, and after her friend closed out I told her that I just got cut, and we should have a drink after I'm off. She agrees, though she's quite drunk at this point (or so it appears to me). This was a major cognitive dissonance for me, but more on that later.

So I drop the check and tell her I'll only be another 15 minutes, which turned into 30. Then, I am about to clock out, and I couldn't find her. I thought that maybe she hadn't been aware I was really flirting with her until the end, and now that she did she wasn't interested and left or something. As I'm doing my final task and I'm extremely focused, someone kicks my side lightly. I put my hand up and don't even look at them, but then decide to look. It's her, smiling at me. I laugh and tell her it'll just be one more sec.

I finally clock out and am standing at the bar waiting for my drink, and then she comes up to me, having just left the strangers she was with on the patio! See, this would have fit her narrative of just talking with people by herself at the bar because it's fun, but she deliberately came up to me, to talk with me. We go back to flirting and get our drinks, then move to another part of the bar. I am confident she's drunk at this point, but can't not move things in the forward direction.

We talk about multiple things, I actually tell her a story from last week with me trying to invent the Shadow Gambit (not me trying to invent it, but some dialogue) and telling a girl to throw a drink in my face (everyone I've told this story fucking loves it), and honestly connect and share some similar histories / attitudes. I escalated with touch but her body language was only sometimes positive, so it was ambiguous as to whether things were working - I never went full out. I did caress her hair for a bit but that has to do with her profession.

Anyways, my coworker starts to complain that I'm not helping with a physically demanding task as they're still closing up (it's almost closing - gtfo time and us two are the last people in the bar as customers). I hold frame very well imo and mostly ignore her, but then she gives a really good reason why I need to help them for a few seconds and I agree. Then my girl starts to get up, and seems disappointed that I'm not moving things forward.

I tell her, in honesty, "hey you seem like a really cool person to get to know better, and here's two reasons we're gonna have to do that another time. 1). I gotta help my coworkers for a sec and 2). You're drunk. Most everything else was straight up telling me, PULL THIS CHICK HOME, but because of the recent developments with rapey / sketchy accusations, I just couldn't do it. She even said, slightly disappointedly, "another time?". She was pointing in that direction, subtley, but consistently.

Then I get her number and try to pick a day, but her phones dead so she can't actually see her schedule - a reasonable excuse not to (though I'm starting to think that high quality woman such as this simply expect high quality men to figure out logic / ways to get around these hoops). She gets up to use the bathroom and I quickly finish the tasks my coworkers need help with. Literally, right as I finish, my coworker says, "Hue, where's your girlfriend? You and [coworker] are always talking t girls, I sware..." and then she walks out of the bathroom like "what?? hahaha!" and looks at my coworker, who apologizes and says she was talking about me not her.

She just keeps walking out and I remain mostly silent. I speed walk out with her and we begin walking in the direction of my car. She's saying she's going to walk home - at 2:30 in a city. I tell her no fucking way, she's too hot for me to be okay with the idea of her doing that, and that I'm driving her home. She is hesitant and I persist and we keep talking. I make a really funny sexual joke and we start hitting it off more as we walk - I was having fun for the few minutes it lasted. We get to my car and I drive her to her temporary place (not a hotel but I'm leaving some details out, the logistics were poor just know that). I plant a kiss on her when I drop her off and she accepts it. I say, "text you?" and she says "yea (: I'll see you later."


I hate this because I know there could have been more from this, but because of 1). how high of quality this woman was and 2). the fact she was drunk made me operate it how I did. With everything going on, I just don't see how I could have tried to pull without breaking certain principles that I've put in place.

I'm texting her tomorrow and plan to set up a date for next Tuesday or Wednesday.


POINT BEING. I have to keep approaching, and can't lock myself in just yet. How far can I push this shit? In just a few weeks I've consistently hooked up with hotter girls, and higher quality girls, generally all independent of reputation or social influence than I ever have before. Is the reason guys get locked down once they hit a hot streak because woman can detect if a guy is "hot" and try to make him theirs? Idk. Food for thought.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:07 am

Didn't go out much this week, and have been working a lot.

Wednesday I banged Pumpkin again. I came before she did the first round, then her before me the second. I do like her, but I have to admit the spark is already fleeting. Could have been my mood that day or something, though - we'll see. I'm willing to give her and I time as there's no reason not to. However, I'm not going to get into a relationship just for the sake of getting into one, I've been told that this is exactly how men hurt women and have to respect the notion of that. I'm willing to admit I'm getting ahead of myself here having only fucked her twice, but in theory her potential suffering could outweigh my sleight of hand in relationships.

Thursday the MILF flaked on me to take care of her kid but my texting game with her was solid so I'm not terribly worried. I went out with some dudes and pushed my "Rogue King" social circle dominance to it's limits and managed to lead a brand new group (other than the one, who was the alpha who I knew) after spending 3-4 hours with them. There were basically no chicks out so low on the approaches. At some points it felt pointless just to it to myself that I could, but nonetheless I got my hands on the wheel and we were all having a great time (: . On a less optimistic note one of my friends I'm eskimo bros with and I were talking about the girl we banged back in the day (HB5) and he (after telling me, sober, that she was "so hot naked") told me that she raped him. I called him out and told him what he soberly told me and he started backtracking, but still sticking to the story that she raped him and I called him out on being fake as fuck and that I didn't approve, then left with the other guys I was with.

Friday once I got off work I went out and tried to make a girls-sports team party but got off too late. Once I showed up to the scene everyone was at this loud, crowded bar and after dancing for a bit I didn't want to be there. There was this one girl from the last time that I was with them that was floating around me, but wouldn't engage in conversation really, but just kept floating next to me. I have a player reputation with this group despite not banging any of the girls that knew me personally (gotta love social circle) and my intuition says she wanted a taste but not at the cost of what her friends might think so she was putting on an act of some sort.

I got bored and left to a different bar with a ton of people I knew and had some great conversations. It occurred to me that people use YOU for THEIR social proof more than you think they do - which is pretty funny to me since I've been using people like that for quite some time actually. I don't take offense to it, but I know when I'm going to (easily or wanting to) get beyond a superficial level with some people, and those that you don't go beyond that with are basically only serving that utility.

At the last bar I was at I was pretty damn fucked up and I don't remember a whole lot, but after talking to this artist I'm friends with my ex girlfriend came up to me all googly eyed and excited. I just remained calm, sexy, and cool and chatted with her till her friends pulled her away.


LR: "Your Tits Are Awesome"

I walked home for the most part, but then stopped for some fried chicken on the way. There was a HB7 (though I'll admit I was slammed so this could be subject to drunk goggles) girl there with MASSIVE tits, and she opened me in line. When we exchanged names, I told her straight up, "your tits are awesome. thought you should know", because it seemed like the thing to say at the time. She got excited, but flustered, and walked out to a chair outside. Once I got my food, I tailed after her.

Slowly (now that I'm outside the joint), I walk up to her and ask if I can sit down with her. She smiles and agrees. We eat our chicken and talk about random shit. I'm not gonna lie, I was really fucked up and I can't think of ANYTHING specifically.

Lol fuck, this is hardly gonna even be a LR - I'm pretty sure I just talked to her for 5-15 minutes with good fundamentals and sexuality and then invited her to have some drinks at my house, it was around 3:00 AM at that point.

She agreed and I remember a blip of grabbing her ass on the way to my house. We got inside and almost immediately started hooking up. I told her to get on her knees and she did and sucked me well. I slipped a condom on shortly after and fucked her in adapted missionary, then switched to doggy style for a while. Didn't let her stay the night. I didn't cum, and hardly remember the sex, other than some of her moaning and the image of entering her from behind.

Oh, and that her tits were awesome.


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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:01 am

Have been on a two-fold vacation. The first place was a 4 day music festival that was an incredible experience with some of the kindest people I've ever met, the second was a 2 day trip to the capital to celebrate the 4th of July.

I approached more than a handle of girls at the music festival and had two hookups. I also took more than a few substances that gave me some personal / spiritual insight. First, being boomies, I learned that I'm lying to myself quite a bit - as in I'm not being honest with my thoughts. A reoccuring problem for me is to run from my thoughts that make me uncomfortable and then my emotions and stress whirlpool them into other areas and my psyche gets messy.

The only way to work around this is to take a moment and get down to the deeper issue - the original thought / principle that I accepted or at the very least placed some value in, and make an appraisal about it. So while tripping / reflecting afterwards I took time to think and examine some of the things going on in my head.

One in particular was, "nobody cares about your feelings". However, this isn't true. I'm lucky to have family and friends that do indeed care about my feelings. In addition to that there are highly empathetic people who care deeply for others despite not receiving anything in return for it, and while these people are not typically encountered for the majority of people, I've met more than a few of these caring individuals and know this to at least temporarily be true. So, theoretically, somebody cares about your feelings to some extent. And if they don't, then at least YOU care about your feelings. That's an underrated ability because it can be misconstrued by cutting other people out.

The next step in this process of self-love is to replace the unhealthy / incorrect principle with a better one. In this case, the most appropriate replacement is: "you are responsible for your own feelings", as they are internally generated. One's subjective experience is a projection of their reality and multiple truths / beliefs they have, as well as the extent they lend aspects of their reality their emotions. It is an enjoyable pleasure to allow oneself to indulge in the lower-human psyche, and the states of our animalistic ways - and allowing certain emotions must be discerned in contextual appropriation.

Another in particular was realizing that I'm taking a "can I get away with this" approach to many of my THOUGHTS (which lead to action) instead of a "is this something I can reconcile / the right thing to do?". In the case of seduction, this may sound like a way to morals getting in the way of treatment of women, but my personal critique is a matter of my indulgences VS discipline. In relation to lying to myself, that is certainly something I can get away with. Things that pump my ego and are used to satisfy my emotions short term are things I can get away with. The correct course of action is to attempt a rational and honest take on whatever issue presents it self to me - whether my feelings are in the way of that or not. By reminding myself of the long-term happiness that is bound to occur by my honesty, I am employing self love. This is easier said than done though, and requires continual revision, assessment, maintenance and mental toughness.

After the boomies, and on the last day of the festival, I took some powerful stuff that starts with MD and ends with MA. At the end of the shows I was listening to a beautiful, impromptu piano performance, and a cute girl (very innocent looking and sweet) on the same thing sat down with me. We were talking, and she said something that pierced my ego's shell. I don't remember exactly how we go there but she brought up how if someone loves themselves for things that are good about them it's great, but if they love themselves for things that are bad about them they're just a narcissist! She said it was the cutest laugh, and it made me realize I had been trying to enjoy the asshole inside of me (not the dick inside of me - that being the ability to deal with conflict, stand your ground, and fight back). And the way she approached it was just so kind, and I knew I had to keep talking to her and learn from her.

We walked through the festival together and explored some of the things on display, talking the whole time. She's a school teacher and was very kind, empathetic, and basically fit the "nurturer role". We eventually talked about relationships and I ended up kissing her. If you ever take this shit, be careful with romantic affairs, because it amplifies everything X1000. Making out is INCREDIBLE and you both mutually feel as though you're one with the other person. I'm actually glad we didn't have sex because I probably wouldn't appreciate normal sex. Maybe if two people are in love...

Eventually we snuck to some after parties at the festivals and I convinced her to sneak on top of someone's RV with me and watch the sunrise. We did and had some extremely intense hooking up (though, very slow and passionate) on the roof of it. Had the sun not come up we would have had sex. We eventually did leave to my tent and things became very close to sex, but then someone kicked it and it broke the spell we had cast upon each other (just so totally in the moment of intimacy).

Anyways, before I get lost in my emotions (as they were drug induced), I felt and believe I experienced the love of someone who I did not know and it was an amazing experience. She said it was mutual. We didn't say "I love you" or anything like that, we were talking about love in a different abstraction. It was treating each other like a human being on a deeper, empathetic level than I ever had before.

Here are my favorite things I wrote down after leaving the festival:

- Forgive yourself for the wrongs you have done to yourself and others
- Understand that putting others at expense for your benefit may also inflict self-hate
- Do not take what you can not give
- Do not attempt to argue in justification of narcissistic tendencies (I had an argument with a friend of mine about why my narcissism is better than his narcissism last month) such as self-serving bias
- Recognize that everybody has something great about them
- Remember to ask yourself questions in a calm and clear way, never allowing satisfaction until honesty & some point of closure are met
- Friends are those who allow the ego to dissipate around each other.
- Responding with hate & anger only feels good for the moment you did it, which is an effective parallel to other hedonistic tendencies, or any short-term gain, long-term loss. I truly believe that when people do this, they are slightly unsettled on a level of personal EQ, because deep, deep down they have a mental quarrel with what they just did, and unfortunately may just stuff it down further. The opposite (long-term gain, short-term loss) follows the same dynamic in the opposite direction.


Notable Mentions:
- Investigate how to deal with imposter syndrome
- Because you shouldn't expect people to take care about your feelings, you must take care of them (which will conflict with moments of self-victimization, external validation, and self-serving bias)
- Sentimental value is not as trivial as it seems (there is utility in the stronger formed connections among phenomenon, function, and concept), and listening to others sentimental values may even help you crystallize your thoughts
- Not everyone is a faker, an actor, or a performance. Just because there is some sort of self-serving intrinsic motivation, this doesn't make it malicious
- Learn to distinguish between instinct & emotional clouding
- Self-love is knowing that because you love yourself, you make yourself grow and become a better & happier person
- You must experience SOMETHING to have a reaction to that thing, which ultimately makes more reactions. This is how we learn, though introverts are better suited to learn (and learn deeply) from this phenomenon than others.
- Remember to use " I " statements rather than lecturing, it's actually a way to lead a person's attention as well as a more humble approach to material. This is especially helpful when you want to derail a person's default network mode and deep dive. Their emotional response (nonverbal) will help you gauge their general reaction to uncommon content accordingly, and is also an effective screening tool - because the person is exuding how they deal with the unknown or possibly uncomfortable content. If someone responds calm and confidently, they're more likely to be honest & strong. If they respond in a fuss, they're more likely to be avoidant. Etc.



After the festival I enjoyed a few days with my best friends. The first night we went out I approached a few groups and the moment I got the ball rolling with these girls my dudes said we had to leave the bar and effectively cock blocked me - my logistics were poor enough to have to go with them (but not impossibly bad).

The day I got back to my city I went out with a few people. I approached a 7 top to this girl who was hot but looked kinda sad and I said she shouldn't look so sad after the 4th of july, and I had to come and help her. She smiled at me in a really cute way but didn't say anything - then this gay guy I know who thinks I'm a player told me I had to leave, so I laughed it off and did. I went to a different bar and there was an HB6 who was staring the fuck out of me (cleeearly wanted to bang) and I literally just walked up to her and asked her to leave. 4 minutes walking to her house, 1 minute at her house, and 2 minutes later my dick was in her. She wanted my number but I romantically declined.

Friday I went out and had this black chick in the bag but I think eventually she didn't want to feel like a slut in front of her friends STICKING POINT and it bottomed out.


Overall, I feel like I'm moving in the right direction again (:
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:42 pm

Trying to think and speak with 100% honesty is still proving to be tough, but I'm getting better. Now I strongly feel the internal conflict when I act in a way incongruent with my principles and can better identify the issue. For example I was drunk and talking to one of my friends about liking older girls and his brother made a comment about how I just can't pull younger chicks - I responded like a total douche by saying "yea but that girl who I fucked on her 18th birthday was a lot of fun though" and this is against 1). Not trying to showboat anything about myself to impress others 2). Not kissing and telling 3). Trying to treat and speak of women in a more respectable regard.

I've been SO HORNY lately lol.

Pumpkin found someone else (likely who was spending more time with her than me / willing to be monogamous) and I respect her freedom and responded immediately to her that it was cool, and when she's ready she knows where I'll be, which she liked.

Tuesday - Friday I've been consistently going out.

Monday
Got two different numbers from my tables. The first was a group of three nude models (nude photography is a very cool profession, if you aren't familiar) and I was literally half chub talking to them about sex the entirety of me serving their tables. About squirting, about weird sex stories, and them showing me their pictures. I love my fucking job.

Right after they left I was so ON from them I kept the flirting with my next table. It was a group of 3 girls from my HS and we had a good time. I was mostly flirty with the boss bitch but she has a boyfriend (who I know and he's a total pussy). One of them left their number and the next day the boss bitch added me on instagram. I'm gonna comment on her next picture and put my toe in the water before I do something more aggressive like DM her. Hopefully she'll visit me at work and I can get a drink with her once I'm off.


Tuesday
Got hooked up by a friend's bartending connections at this nice place and got some cheap, good ass alcohol to start the night, but then my friend's couldn't hold their liquor and so I ended up going out alone. The Bartender chick I hooked up with last semester was there and I talked to her for about 10 minutes before she subtly rejected me. I have to avoid talking to / monitoring her every opportunity because if I persist incorrectly it will come off as creepy which could be very bad for reputation and preselection.

I made some friends with bouncers, then went to an after party where one chick (and for the life of me I can't think of the reason) asked me to feel up her tits. I did and had one titty in my hand, then immediately her friend is like "I want Hue to feel mine too!" and put my had on her tit. So I'm sitting there with two different pairs of titties in my hands and one of the girls boyfriend walks in, and in my drunked state I call him by the wrong name and say "we're just checking some things out, [wrong name]", and he was PISSED lol. So funny.

Wednesday
I went out with my coworkers and we got hammered. Really fun time. I approached this girl who knows some of my coworkers (HB8 blonde that my homie tried to fuck and had LMR) and things were going generally well, but when I tried to move her in transition, "wait, tell me the rest of that over here" she didn't comply and then her facial expressions depressed. I imagine my delivery was off, as well as me kinda flipping the "I'll tell you if we move over here" thing - as in I don't actually have any leverage in the leading beyond my shifting interest.

There was also a HB7 brunette that I talked to with her friend but she had a boyfriend and left shortly after I opened her, smiling at me as her boyfriend walked her out (;;;;;

Thursday
Got drunk with the boys. No approaches.

Friday
(:

I've been in such a great mood lately, I can't explain it. Just so calm and happy to talk to people. This really makes me love my job, and I try to make my tables have the best time possible, drop lots of jokes, and flirt with the girls.

I eye fuck basically every girl I serve, and this larger girl eye fucked me back, and then with little to no flirting (some joking and light touch, but that's it) this girl left her number with a note. Shortly after this there was an older woman who was on a Tinder date that the guy showed up late to. I told her that I'll sit down and pretend to be her date if he doesn't show. She also said exactly what Richard told me in a PM about how older women don't really have the option to "see where things go" and she kind of has to be sure with dates like this. I said I was excited for her. I wonder if she told me this in a way of her feeling my sexual energy and putting up a barrier as to why I wouldn't make a good candidate (or that's just my ego lol). The date didn't go great and I think she was more interested in me than him but the end of it.

THEN this girl who I've been praying I'd run into, HB9 blonde that I ran track with in HS is at my table. Gonna call her Runner Girl. She looks fucking amazing. Perfect, big & perky tits, slim waste, nice ass, and a naturally pretty face. Very nice girl too. I hug her and talk to her for a bit before I "switch back into server mode" and actually do some of my job. The thing is, she was nervous talking to me! I forgot how much my reputation carried weight in highschool in certain groups because of how well liked I was, and here is this fucking beautiful girl nervous talking to me. I qualified her for good measure, and actually became kind of nervous to her because of how attractive she was looking. I would focus on my breath and calm myself down occasionally leaving / returning to her table. At the end I was able to tease them about not finishing their pitcher, because she tried to sell herself as a "cool party chick" to me now that she'd gone to college (this is her adapting to my expectations in girls, as I was a very well known partier in high school).

I tell her that I want to see her once I'm off and she excitedly agrees. Then while eye fucking her I tell her to write her number on the tab, and to put little hearts and kissy faces on there too. She writes her number on the tab smiling. Finally as they were walking out, I come back to their table like, "okay ladies..." and she turns to me like "I'll see you later!! (: "

You could say I was in a good mood after that. Thanks girlschase for handing me some of the tools I needed to even begin seducing a girl like that.

Eventually I get off and my best friends came in to the bar to see me / get some drinks. We shoot the shit and I try to set up meeting Runner Girl, who had responded to my texts but started to drift. Then I also get a SM friend request from another girl I ran track with, so I contemplate they're talking about me. Problem (or, possibly preselection) with that is I've fucked two of the other girls friends :P

We go out to another bar and I open a 4-top and hit it off with this black chick. I start moving things in a better direction, and then the boss bitch cuts me off saying "None of us want to fuck you, so get the fuck out". I just give her a very skeptical look and don't leave. It was very uncalled for. I eventually say that I really enjoyed talking to the black chick, and get her number for another time (though I doubt anything will come of it).

Two blonde girls I had previously served's table were there and I went up to them, saw they had boyfriends, and just remained friendly and hugged / chatted with them.

There was also a ton of greek life people there and I was getting pretty touchy with this nursing girl from social circle, but nothing too far. I think she is taking strong notice of my preselection lately and in the future something will probably happen with us.

I approach another 4 top who was staring at me across the bar (actually just at their friend who I was next to, but idc it's an excuse to approach) and I tease them about flirting with me. I talk to the girl I want and she doesn't seem that interested, but her friend does. She's an older, HB6 redhead and it's getting late so I figure why the fuck not. I was really drunk at this point and don't totally remember how I went from set --> outside the bar but next thing I know we're walking down the street, and instead of trying to pull her to my house (she wasn't down I think) I say we can just go for a walk.

I pull her into an alley and push her against the wall and we start going at it. I pull off a few times and then reverse it so I'm against the wall (not cornering her) and thinks start to get really hot. Eventually (now that my hands are on her pussy) she pulls off and gets LMR. I persist for a while and she tries super hard to get my number and her friends are calling her and blah blah blah and she gives me her number. I keep persisting and we make out harder several times. At one point I was behind her with my dick on her ass kissing her neck and she said that she had to stop because she liked it so much, and was actually skeptical at me for "knowing" she liked it so much lol.

But she wants to meet tomorrow. Not worth my time, honestly sweety ;P I persist to the point where it becomes chasing, I recognize my chasing, and bail.

While walking home a gay guy is talking about the after hours scene and I start talking to him and a girl he's with invites me. They keep telling me I'm really good looking and cute like non stop. It was flattering but made me a little creeped out with the gay dude. We get pizza before we go and I invite two black chicks in line to come with us, they're clearly interested in me but ultimatley bail. Also the guy that was talking to them before I came up got the fuck out of there the moment I started to talk with them, so I guess my presence is starting to have a strong effect on lower value individuals.

We make it to the after party and it's pretty wack. I see a few people I know but generally it was a strange looking crowd. I approach a couple girls in a pretty aggressive way (immediately strong touching and talking in their ear) which they liked, but then I didn't close properly on either of them. Then it just became really hard to talk to people and it stopped being fun. Also my dance moves were starting to suffer from all the alcohol in my system by this point so I had to check out lol.

But really, what a great day (:

I woke up to an apology text from Runner Girl and am texting her to set up drinks as I type this.

Cheers fellas.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:11 pm

Tuesday
Had a solid Tinder convo with this blonde, then right as I was closing the deal she started to play games and ended up ghosting me. Got another girls snapchat because she said she'd send nudes but didn't lol. Flake central over in the dating apps.

Went out Tuesday and opened a girl with a tattoo about her tat, quickly got rejected. One bartender who's friends with that girl I hooked up with at a concert wouldn't serve me it seemed :P reputation can be a bitch. Opened two girls talking to a guy who's table I served (he was pretty chill and on a date with two chicks) and after I started to game a little bit he asked me to smoke a cig out side and dude-flirted with me. Didn't want to fuck up his arrangements after that so it worked lol.

Opened to other girls who were cool, but then this hotter blonde opened me mid-set and I turned to her, losing the other ones. I tried to move her and she said she has a boyfriend who's "right there" and I said "that's fine, you're not married, sit down" and she smiled and was down - then I told her maybe it's not a good idea and bailed. I just wanted to see how she'd react.


Wednesday

I was slightly not dominant enough in my texts with Running Girl and it made me overthink for a while. Then when she finally replied and we got the date arrangements rolling I felt better = external validation and lack of outcome independence. Meditation helps but I need to continue the mental weight curls to eradicate this from my psyche.

So the date went pretty well. She looked slightly less hot than when I served her table, and I'll go ahead and say she's a strong HB8, rather than an HB9. The main thing we talked about was how different she was compared from high school to now, among many other things such as psychology, partying, relationships, casual sex, funny drunk stories, and the current state of culture. She was not good at eye contact, which is one of my strongest seduction points so this hurt my game.

We started getting a drink at my usual spot, then going to play pool at another. After having such a good date with Pumpkin, it felt less than satisfying with her poor eye contact and some other oddities in her body language. She's definitely still in the "party party" faze of where she is (not to say I'm not partying, I just don't appreciate like I used to - or how she currently does). In highschool she was the hot, shy, track girl. Now (after being on her college's running teams' party scenes at a small school) she's, at least from this one date with her, the hot, outgoing, slightly awkward, athlete.

My biggest struggle was arousal. I kept up the sex talk and the light touching, but I never got around to grabbing ass or grabbing her legs in a very sexual way. At times it seemed she would pull away when I tried to become closer with her. She lives with 4 guys at school so I wonder how she sees men / knows about their advances. When we went to play pool I tried to set up the rule that loser has to kiss the other person and she wasn't down (ASD), saying she would think about it after it settled in. I invited her back to my place after a high note (I totally killed her in pool and teased her the whole time) and she said she had to get dinner with her dad (I may start doing more optimally timed dates so that windows like dinner or late night plans don't interfere). I persisted a bit but she was firm about it so I said she should drive me to my house. Not my usual move but I had to think on my feet with these hoops she was throwing me. We talked about masturbation and hormones in the car ride there and I made a point about how most guys masturbate but having sex is better for you, and made a comment about women being multiorgasmic creatures which she liked.

Once we got close to my house I tell her how to park and she does. I ask her to come in for 5 minutes and she says she told her dad she'd be home at 7:30. It's 7:24 and I tell her that she can make it home in 1 minute after staying at my house for 5 LOL. She is getting excited but then asks what we're gonna do in 5 minutes. I tell her that I want to hear this artist she's been talking about, and want to show her mine. She says that she'll play the song right there in the car and I say that I want to see the music video for my song and she finally agrees, laughing the whole time. Ohh Plausible Deniability.

We get in there and she comments on my single, not sitting down until I tell her to. She doesn't look relaxed so I tell her to and take her purse off her shoulder. The songs start to play and we're sitting close, I did a little bit of leg touching but not as much as I actually wanted to for calibration (though maybe I should have just gone for it). Finally I tell her to look at me and she gives me a beaming smile. She says that she's bad at eye contact and this isn't the first time she's had it commented on. I can't remember exactly what I said but I kissed her. She says "I knew you were going to do that!" and I make a slight error by going "No shit lol.... nah wait, what are you talking about? (; ".

She puts her song on and I make fun of her for how sad it is (she smiles like ALL THE TIME but kept bringing up how she likes sad music) and say I'm gonna cheer her up and kiss her again. She is smiling at me as I do and we pull off at the same time, but then she says she has to go and didn't know what I thought I could get done in 5 minutes. I say "yea I'm not that quick you have a decent point... maybe you are but I'm not sure." she goes "what?? :)" and I just say "what ? ;P " (talking about orgasm here, not being "easy" or anything)

It ended with her saying "I don't know when I'll see you again". I said, "yea neither do I". She says "you're okay with that?" and I casually say "yeah" with a slight shrug and a casual, slight smile. Then something about her dad getting on her and I tell her to not get lost on the way to her car and to take care.

Will make a FR++ out of this.

I honestly don't know what I could have done better other than
- more arousal with touching her legs and ass
- isolated her quicker (didn't spend so much time at the bars)
- kissed her at the bar after pool as soon as the game was over

Most of my framing was pretty good and I could get her after she comes back to my city. Though idk.

I think I'll invite her over for a bottle of wine in a week or so. For now she will go on vacation and hopefully think of me - but that's totally out of my control. Wondering if this specific circumstance would call for some alteration in texting post-date.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:04 pm

Took an introduction Krav Maga class to learn how to defend myself better. Too expensive / time consuming with my current schedule but I did very much enjoy it. Apparently I punch hard.

Just ordered testosterone boosters and cortisol reducers to do some biohacking & improve strength gains in the gym.

Had that black chick from Tinder over on Wednesday after Runner Girl had to leave. She is great at sucking dick.

We talked about sex, relationships, and guys/girls differences. I told her about what happened at the bar last week with that bitch being all, "no one here wants to fuck you!!", and she told me that it was 100% her being mad I wasn't talking to her - that no girl can get that mad at a guy for talking to her friend, and if anything she would be happy about it if they were actually friends.

These hoes..

Thursday

Went out last night with my coworkers and some very good friends. Had to juggle enjoying myself and showing my buddy who was leaving a good time. Opened two girls who were eye fucking me when we were playing pool. Was talking in one of their ears (very effective because this is a sensitive area and your lips on her ears makes it like foreplay to foreplay) and I almost kissed her in the middle of the bar. My instinct said to and I should have. After I didn't her ASD came up because she was obviously interested but had a boyfriend - then her friend started to mother hen her (which is different then the example above because this girl actually had a boyfriend).

Then 3 people opened my friends and I and this cute blonde girl started talking to me. I worked very fast and was like "who over here did you actually want to talk to?" and she said me, so I quickly and discretely escalated with touch and was grabbing her ass while talking in her ear, told her that I had to show my friend a good time for the rest of the night, and got her number for "later tonight" with all none the wiser. Probably 45 seconds total.

Though, when we got back to my place and my homies were smoking a lil somethin I called her and seemed like I had her, but she wanted me to meet her at this food joint with all her friends and I was in no way down for that. I finessed a little bit and she asked for my address. 45 minutes went by so I called her again and her and her friends were giggling and being flakey so I sent her something along the lines of, "hey if you can't hang without your friends I get it, no biggie. though you're welcome to come" to show outcome independence but still extend the invitation. No response. Eh, her loss.

Considering texting this chick I made out with / should have fucked outside like a month and a half ago... though I feel it'd be better if I just saw her out and pulled her like that...
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:19 am

Friday

Went out with coworkers - no memorable approaches. Made some friends with people I was introduced to, but because of the late start it wasn't all that fulfilling of a night.


Saturday

Got off mad early and attended a pregame with some coworkers and close friends. Really got to practice and see the results of Slow Burner game. Only speaking when opportune, and doing so in a charming, leading, or sexy way. Was leading the group by later in the night, with preselection and social proof building all the while. Combine that with eventually bailing on the group and hooking up with a girl at the bar I decided to go to and you get a value spike.

In line to an outdoor portopotty I "made a bet" about who would come out first, and that loser has to buy the other a shot. I happened to be right and so this blonde HB6 bought me a tequila shot and introduced me to her friends. She wasn't hot enough to pull / deviate course but it was still fun.

One of the girls we were with was starting to invest in me more and I think she was into me, but one guy seemed to have his eyes locked on her. To not make an enemy and to keep my options open I just continued my game and didn't force anything. Eventually they were making out at the bar. People kept buying me drinks but I made sure to get waters with them and not get too fucked up.

Eventually we left to a different bar and the group had started to walk into a lower energy place where we all would just be sitting at the table. I wanted to pull so just kept walking to a more populated place next door, and get in line to have some pizza. I cut the line and a few people started to talk shit, but I just held frame and next thing I know that sexy indian chick that I made out with pretty hard last month pops out of nowhere, looking cute and horny.

We were being touchy feely with eachother while we waited in line, and it totally saved me from the angry people I had cut. I had to finesse a little bit to get her away from her friends, and talk to her friends enough so that they approved of me, without making it too try hard or obvious I was just doing so to get to her.

When I do eventually pull her we're in a little doorway next to the street waiting for the uber. I did everything but kiss her, if you catch my drift lol. Then I make a crucial mistake. Hector had told me that when it's ON, micro-details start to matter. Instead of grabbing her hand and leading her to the car, I stepped out of the doorway and looked for the uber. Then, when I turn back to her, the arousal spike had ended and she started to walk off, her body language having gone from horny sex kitten to closed off bitch. I ran to the uber and told him to wait one moment, then ran back to her and asked what was up. She said she's going home with her friend and said so quite decisively. I threw a hail mary and said, "I thought you were my girl?" and she said, "I'm not your girl tonight." I just started to walk away immediately and got in the uber, and she called after me but I just kept walking.

Outcome independence is still proving to be one of the harder aspects of inner game, especially with really hot girls.

One part of me is saying persist, persist, invite her over for a drink and fuck her brains out, and the other part of me says she fucked up, her loss. I also wonder the effect of my emotional congruency and a clear display of leaving a situation not in my favor, as opposed to being non reactive (if I had been). Might make a post in general about it.

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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:06 am

Sunday - Working With Girls & Gays

Slow days are always fun at work because you have nothing to do but hang out and let conversation carry on. While there is a constant sexual dialogue/jokes from the LBTQ majority I work with (and the heterosexual guys and girls, of course), we actually got into some cooler conversations beyond just banter. All the gay guys are essentially girls in my mind, at this point. They talk to eachother with feminine pronouns. It took me a while to understand their actual perception and reality, but working closely with these particular humans (lol) has been very insightful and fun.

I tried not to come off too sageish (one of my short comings at times) while we talked about if love is real or just an illusion (I said it's both), and to not come off to playery when I said that I fucked a pretty mature freshman and a woman who had a kid (separate dialogues) when some girls were trying to say older dudes shouldn't fuck younger girls unless it's them, and that guys my age should basically only fuck girls my age. What a load of shit lol. Hopefully it framed me as being sexually open minded rather than showing off trophies, as that's what I was going for.

One of my coworkers who I'm not interested in beyond banter / touching was being super flirty with me and it was a really good display of preselection. She kept grabbing my ass and I would either grab hers back, push her, hold her head, or shake my ass on her and she would giggle a lot. The one girl who's less experienced with guys (and as a result, extremely hot and cold with my flirting) went from * being a bitch to me --> holding my hand with flirty eye contact --> telling my coworker and I to "stop flirting!" *. This was all while we flirted more and more intensely throughout the shift (at this point she's asking me to fuck her, jokingly serious, while reaching for my ass lol).

What happened with the less experienced girl (who rarely gets dick, it's obvious) was she had me in auto rejection --> preselection made her want to have fun with me --> she goes for me and accepts my light flirting --> I didn't give her as much as the other girl because she's less fun and not very cute --> she vocally disapproves of our antics because of her jealousy.

Preselection is useful and a powerful tool, but too much leads to women sabotaging other women.

We're all going out this Tuesday for a last hurrah before two of our coworkers leave. One is a girl I've had my eye on but never get the chance to chat really (luckily we had that sexual / relationship dialogue last shift), and the other is one of my favorite gals who I'm really gonna miss actually.


Also had a solid Tinder convo with this HB7 blonde who I may be able to set shit up with next week.


Monday - Not So Great Texting

So, I was drunker than I thought on Saturday, and forgot that I got a girls number after talking with her and her friend about threesomes. I remember her being a cute brunette but #beergoggles. I texted her today to set some shit up and it went generally well - but I didn't want to take her to one of my usual bars for reputation reasons (it is indeed getting to that point with the staff there :/ so I don't want to go on a more formal date at one of these places unless it's super worth it). Although... that pizza place doooes serve margaritas..

Instead, I invited her straight over. She was iffy and then my phone died RIGHT when I was gonna text her back quickly to not let her emotions cement - and she said she doesn't know me and she won't just have a drink at a strangers. Fair, but now I either have to compromise on my frame (and my reasoning) or just reframe it as not a big deal, and that I remembered her being a normal, cool girl. Alas, I was ghosted after trying this.

Perhaps if I had done better during my oh so memorable approach I wouldn't have ran into this. Wish I remembered more :/


To double down in texting fuck ups, I texted Runner Girl before she got back from vacation like a fucking idiot. It was kinda late to text her, but either way she didn't answer. Now attainability is too damn high, so I have to ghost her until she goes on her second vacation and comes back to let her reset a little bit. *facepalm* AND I edited Hector's video on exactly how to text a girl in this situation (perfect example of wishful thinking from high value "prizes").


All the more reason to get better at pulling chicks the day I meet them. Not to say texting should be neglected - mine obviously needs some work.

As far as that indian chick goes, I thought about it and I think the only way I can reasonably pull her is if it's the same night I'm out with her. When I tried to fuck her on our coffee date last year, her deciding to not go back out with me was her rational mind, just as her last minute decision to actually not get in my uber was her rationalization.

But, fuck. On the other hand the alleged reason she bailed was because she was out with her friends... tough. I may do the call strategy, test the waters, and if it doesn't seem like a good idea maybe just use the call to clear the air and say I hope I see her out. That would both surprise her and leave her wanting to see me IF it worked..

- if it goes great I could see her that weekend and try to smash
- if it goes okay that would could make her negatively rationalize why I called her, or if I frame it right leave her intrigued
- if it goes bad / I'm ghosted I'll have just dug the hole further

Idk, I'm just feeling like trying new things in my game lately. If that's what I do I'll do it Thursday, if not then I'll just try to find a new girl that night. My intuition says don't call her.


Side Note - Maybe Stop Abusing My Organs

Time to start getting my shit together again though. I've been drinking a very high volume all summer and not putting in as quality work as I'm capable of (anywhere other than my server job). Also went to the doctor, who I'm 100% honest with about my life and he's very worried about what I'm doing to my body. White stuff = bad for your heart = occasional heart palpitations. Not something to consider as lightly as I have been.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:18 pm

Tuesday

Big outing with my coworkers last night. Was in a great flirty mood until my boss got in my face for not tipping the bartender enough. He yelled at me in front of everyone while we were enjoying ourselves and I mainly shut down my expressions, then explained myself as concisely as possible and didn't budge.

Unfortunately this made me paranoid about the older folk we were with and cracked my frame enough for it to shatter later on.

I had been talking about relationships and sex with this girl, and passed basically all her tests (the former kitchen boss who's leaving) then whilst starting the engines up later in the night had the older people sweep her away for shots - which I took as a slight at me for the thing with my boss earlier and/or cockblocking.

My egotism on the matter ultimately destroyed my frame, because as I was attempting to pull my coworker came up and offered her an uber - again I took it as girls cockblocking / me possibly being creepy and I froze up.

Right before this I was also explaining my paranoia to her like an idiot, she had no idea what I was talking about. In fact I was screening to see if she wanted to get a drink privately. I SHOULD have just offered to walk her home! God, fuck me.

So after I go onto privately call out the co-worker for "what she did" and she has no idea what I'm talking about. I was also mad (from being on shit that I just said I'd quit) so it was just fucking embarrassing.

Really dissapointed in myself right now. Feeling judgemental and self absorbed.

The kicker is because of how drunk everyone was, their large lack of focus on me, and how well I was posturing myself and mainly being quiet, mostly no one seemed to notice anything different.



Totally failed to remain outcome independent and follow the "do I agree with this deep down" rather than "can I get away with this" thing. I fed my ego too much.

Gonna meditate now.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:06 pm

Had chest pain almost all of yesterday - I've never been afraid of the possibilities of my indulgences on my health like that before, no more hard stimulants. Done. I'm already more or less a high functioning alcoholic so I need to kick bad habits one at a time.

Went out last night and controlled my drinking. Never got out of control and I remember everything, which was nice. I was focused on not being so "playery" and being more "lover" towards the women tonight. When I get there I see 3 pockets of people I know fairly well, so that I can surf social proof later as needed.

I'm greeted by my coworker (she's large, but funny and always a good time) who's with a couple other meh girls. I'm introduced and the girls all seem interested. I tease them about some shit I said to them last time I saw them and shake hands and hug people. One guy and I talk about this gay dude we know and how it took me forever to catch on to their use of pronouns, which the girls all laugh about. I try to keep the focus on them, and then eject to a different group.

The girls I almost had a threesome with are there, and they have me almost all auto-rejected as a player douchebag. The queen bee strongly dislikes me, I know for a fact. I just talk to the one I know for a while, then eject to a different group. I come back to them later and this one girl who doesn't really know me (almost hooked up with me the first time we met though - my preselection hadn't burst with them yet) is being a bitch and I just laugh at her. I go, "hey I think we met once before didn't we?" and she says "yea at [bar]. you were being annoying." and then puts her nose in the air and walks to the other side of the table. I just smile and turn to the girl I'm tight with and say "that's funny".

Shortly after I get up to use the bathroom and the same girl asks me, "hey Hue, will you get me a drink?" I just stare at her with a slight smile for a little bit and tell her no, then happily walk to the bathroom. I could here the girl I know turn to the bitch and say "no, he doesn't buy girls drinks..." right before I walk in. She's used to whipping guys, and if it weren't for my terrible reputation with this group I think her and I would probably have some fun banter.

I return to my coworker's girls and they're being much more drunk and flirty. I see the girls field hockey team and float over until one of them notices me. I try to talk to her but she won't leave her seat. Her sister comes up to me and is being overly flirty with me - she seemed pretty drunk. I still flirt with her back and next thing I know we're talking about bisexuality and I'm framing her as being VERY heterosexual, but a little bi with some touch. She was getting excited and her sister was trying to get her off of me, but she kept coming back. I would move us inches away from the group and it was going well, until she became glued to texting her friend for like 30s and I started to talk with other people. We went back and forth a few more times but it fizzled out.

Right after this the sexy ass bartender comes up to me and says she's buying me a drink. We barely talked, but she slapped me after the shot, so I slapped her back lol. Then we had a nonverbal push and pull war of hitting eachother and she started to play choke me. I put my hands on her neck and said "I'm a much better choker in private" and then backed off a little bit - she was obviously drunk but I had to make the decision right there of hypersexualizing and going for the pull, or continuing this push and pull dance. She's a tough cookie to crack, because even a little too much attention she assumes superiority, and too little and she's bored. Like micro-windows of opportunity. Unfortunately, I pulled off too strong and she left.

Then my coworker and her friends introduce me to a new girl who's obviously interested from the get go, but I didn't meet her at her energy level so our 15 min of playful conversation never got anywhere but that. Mid convo I did also open a random girl on the wall and got into a little bit of a deep dive before my coworker pulled me off of her for a shot.

It ended with a girl trying to hook me up with her friend and the friend not giving me enough energy to do anything with, so I left. Right before though I tried Hector's phone attraction thing and got a hard IOI from this blonde, but didn't jump on it.

Basically, I was around women the whole night and was very good at attracting them, but not good at separating and closing them. Going to focus more on moving and closing for these next approaches tonight. Decided against texting that indian chick.


Couple Takeaways
- One girl I was introduced to went on 7 dates with a guy, who she had kissed once. He bought her a fruit basket, and had recently invited her to a wedding (this guy is out of the fucking 40's) for their 8th date!! To help her out, I said she should take a snapchat of me kissing her on the cheek and post it as her story. She did and he was THE FIRST TO WATCH IT. Tough shit. My coworker eventually took her phone and sent a paragraph breaking up with him. Important note: the whole time this girl was LOVING the attention this guy was giving her, because it made he feel so superior to him. Even as she was texting him bitchy stuff like "k lol" after she replied to her "break up" text, she was beaming smiling.

- The guy I was introduced to asked me if he thinks he should bang my coworker since they've been tight for like 4 years but never did. I told him to do it, and he went on to do so. He also mentioned how he had been in a 4-some before, and I could tell the guy had some strong tools in game. Just an interesting observation. Not a pity fuck, more like a "I like you so much as a person I'll fuck you". Or idk, maybe the dude likes fat chicks.

- Acting calm and relaxed around girls will make them way less on guard when you're talking to them. As opposed to the gamey, higher energy stuff that I usually start with, this felt more natural. I'm still getting used to Slow Burn among certain circles and to make it work need to incorporate smooth transitions and build compliance, which I didn't do enough of.

- For a girl, if you can approach, lead, ask her home, and seduce her with confidence, that is all a huge compliment to her and very satisfying. But I'm starting to think it's satisfying in the way that what she is feeling is that "here's an awesome, hot guy, and he's confident in his decisions and actions. He wants me. He could have many, but he wants me because there's something in me that makes him sure of wanting me, and that makes me feel great". If I can learn to evoke that kind of feeling in the way I lead, converse, and close, well that's some powerful shit. It may be a matter of shifting my mindset to actually see these things in people.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:59 am

Thursday
Had the dudes over for drinks, then went to my favorite dive spot. A day one of mine is recently single (after 2 years!) and is ready to start hounding again. Back in his old days he went from getting no pussy to literally swimming in it within just a few months - then his ex snatched him up for the remainder of her time at university. Now we have one last semester together >:)

My coworker came into the bar I was at and I started to game her, and considering my low investment texts with her earlier that day it was on. There was an obstacle though: her friend knows me from a few years ago when I was less attractive and had less game than I do now (this chick is also a notorious bitch).

So my wingman, MaddHatter, was mainly getting used to even going back out in the "single" mindset and I did most of the work talking to them. We had a good group out and the bar wasn't too chaotic so we were able to occasionally jump in and out of conversation. Normally it's good to remain in set, but this was doable given the context. It also helped with social proof, which helps with the bitchy friend.

At one point a girl I was with on Wednesday saw me and yelled "Hue!!!!" so I went over to her, which bumped up preselection, and then my coworker dipped out to the patio.

I go by myself to the girls, and make fun of them for being antisocial. I ask them what they're doing after and they want to smoke. I don't smoke, but say I'll join with the intention of taking like one rip then stopping (I get retardedly stoned everytime I smoke now), then pulling - or at the very least joining them for some type of after hours.

The bar is starting to close so those that are left are starting to pour out into the patio. My dudes ask what I'm doing and I tell them I'm going with the girls to smoke - and one of my dudes is like "you don't even smoke dude". With the girls not in ear shot I explain that's just what I'm saying to them and I turn to see my wing talking to the girls and exclaim "Hue doesn't even smoke!", like a fucking idiot. Shitty. I think it's because he was drunk because that's just retarded. Right after this they leave to the bathroom and then leave without me (so obviously they had some girl talk and talked one another out of it).

I try to push her over a few texts and say my buddy wants to buy some, then she said some BS excuse why she couldn't. I through a hail mary and stopped beating around the bush and got ghosted. Normally I wouldn't be so aggressive with my coworkers but my fucks are out the window in many ways of recent, plus she's leaving soon. Saw her on Friday night and she seemed somewhat avoidant so I'll be fully pulling out of that operation.

Friday
Overall, really good night. I was looking sexy as fuck, if I must say so myself. Red / black flannel, black jeans, and don't forget the chest hair ;P

Went out after work. Ended up having two drinks at the bar with the hot bartender's friend and worked Slow Burner well - played around with a little bit of byronic traits, as well as implicitly saying things about myself in a way that shows value (exuding traits rather than showboating victories). We had quite a lot in common and I enjoyed many points of the conversation. The woman, 35 I believe, told me that I was a "rare breed" to be passionate in both academia and the social arena I'm in. Though I did go a little too deep with the dive and talk about how "people aren't supposed to at a certain point of happiness", which is actually one of my more nihilistic thoughts that sometimes enters my consciousness and one that I'm uncomfortable even writing now. We ended on a good note, and it was very good practice.

Got to the bar with all my friends and had a great time, I started to get more energy and come out of the Slow Burn I'd been going with before - they invited girls and at first things were going super well, but then they directed almost all their attention to the younger, roudier lil brother of one of my dudes who goes to school with them. He also challenged the fuck out of me and I didn't fight back, instead I just held frame. Going to have to look into better dealing with aggressive challenges with guys so I have options.

We left to a different bar and I told my wingman to pick out a girl and I'd help him out. He didn't want to because he still has emotions for his ex (which I respect, but told him that it doesn't get any easier by waiting a week before you actually approach). I also had to explain that, while I think it's super important to listen to what your emotions are saying, that rationally speaking going out and getting new girls is the best approach. He agreed, but wouldn't pick out some girls - so I knew I had to just open someone and see if he'd follow.

Right after then we hopped to the original plans with those girls the young roudy dude went to (and him and his brother were fucking PLASTERED drunk), and I had a couple girls he was with open me, asking about this stamp on my hand (red lipstick kiss marks - great attention grabber). I totally hit it off with this HB7 brunette who I think I've seen out before and we were actually connecting pretty hard (both psychology and mindfulness), with some good flirting, decent compliance, and decent touch - but, I hated my positioning with the group, and I also knew I couldn't move them because their set up was too conducive to their plans (they had a table, drink pitchers, with more people on the way). I had to piss so I told her I'd be right back.

When I get back my wing is going for the girl now (which isn't really winging - I think this dude has to go out and get laid himself before he and I can work as a team) - and when I asked for what her name was (I forgot) he gave it to me but said we were going to have to compete jokingly. Kind of jokingly serious though.. which is kind of lame on his part...

I talk to another girl at the bar wearing this sexy dress and she is pleased to talk to me - the open went well, but then fell off right after and she subtly rejected me. I came back to the brunette who now had a cloud of guys around her and it was near impossible to reengage her in a calibrated way - she was the center of attention. When I finally did grab a chance, this dude gives me a hard look and goes, "hey! buddy! you're gonna have to leave. that's my girlfriend." I glance at her and she looks uncertain and somewhat afraid. Here's this guy she just hit it off with, and here's all of her friends watching, judging, and most certainly going to talk about it behind her back as it is. She freezes up, and let's the men figure it out.

Similarly to when my boss called me out last Tuesday, I turn off my expressions for a moment. I glance to my left to see that my friends have left as well - which puts me in a tough spot. I can't ride this out without it escalating, and then what do I get? I turn back to the boyfriend and simply go, "oh, you're her boyfriend? what's your name man?", and he repeats "yea I'm her boyfriend" and just stares at me. There's a pause and you can cut the tension with a knife, although the intensity is partially drowned out because of the loud noises and chaos that fill the bar. I simply ask again, smiling now, "what's your name brother? my friends were here earlier and we met eachother and we were talking". People stop paying attention, and the guy gives me an expressionless look.

I turn to the girl and throw a hail mary, and pull out my phone to get her number, suggesting that we talk about psychology sometime. She still has a look of anxiety in her face and agrees, then turns away from me and into the group without giving me her number, and is drown by her friends. I leave immediately. Now that I've revisited my memory, I actually met her the 1st time when her boyfriend was there (I've previously journaled this summer about it actually), then again at a different bar where I approached her and her friend came up right after - both interested in me before another girl grabbed me who I knew, and now this 3rd time. Hell, the guy might even remember me. Well, I respect him for putting something he saw in place, but I don't respect his cowardice in not allowing his girlfriend to make decisions for herself.

The rest of the bar is still there, so I poke around to see if my friends are in sight, then look for an approachable girl. I had been shooting the shit with this guy in the bathroom and made a favorable impression (funniest thing was we were joking about his custom made suit, then he immediately walks out of the bathroom and tells a group of chicks his suit is custom made to "demonstrate value" lol), and I saw him near a hot chick who was a little disengaged from the group. I went over and made a phonecall to my other friend who told me to meet up with him. Once done I try to engage the girl and she subtle rejects me, and I leave.

At the other bar my coworkers are there, but I'm not feeling the vibe. Get an asian chicks number, who ended up texting me at like 3 to go to an after party, but I responded too late and didn't capitalize. TOTALLY could have had an opportunity to fuck her had I seen the text. Since I was bored I debated going home and going solo - it was 1:30 and arguably a hard time to start sets with the kind of girls you actually want to go home with.

I decide fuck it, we're going to the popular bar and get in to immediately see MaddHatter and grab a drink with him. He's pretty wasted. I want him to get laid so I again offer to have him pick a girl and I'll help, though he doesn't. So I go off on my own and bump into a few different crowds of people, then see a hot brunette and start talking to her, then to her whole group. I didn't feel the vibe so I left to a different group of girls I saw and was warmly welcomed.

Not sure the exact point I entered this state but I was doing feminine game better than I ever had. No longer Slow Burn, but still with the calmness, confidence, and warmth that I was exuding the other night. I was catching up with a girl HB7 Brunette who I never actually knew all that well, with her friend next to her who I've fucked two friends of, and hooked up with more. I was being touchy, making fun of them, going back to being warm, and bringing a lot of energy to the conversation. A girl who I didn't know HB6 Blonde opened me during the convo and introduced herself. The boyfriend of the HB7 hovered around us until his GF introduced me, then I happily shook his hand and went right back to gaming his girl. I could see in my peripheral his body language becoming uncomfortable, but he just allowed it to happen. I was doing shit like putting her vape between her tits, grabbing her waste, and flicking her nose, for specific examples.

Then, this guy I don't know comes up to me and pulls me aside saying,
Him: Hey man, could you help me with something?
Me: Uh, sure. What's up?
Him: You're really good with girls. Could you talk to her (fat grenade) for a second so I could talk to that blonde you just met?
Me: Haha, umm. Yea, why not?


I flirt with this fatty for about 10-15 minutes, and turn to the guy and he's making out with the chick. The blonde eventually demanded I kiss her friend, and I joked around with them about it. Then one of the girls I was just talking to grabs me and I remember telling her, "wait I have to help this guy :D ". I went back until the girls were leaving. The fatty asks for my number and I say no, and she's confused and disappointed. Sorry lol. Don't hate the player hate the game.

I felt good, despite possibly missing my own shots hunting that night!

Unfortunately, the guy didn't close, because my friend saw the girls getting in an uber and him not, looking disappointed :P Perhaps if I had also joined in the (what would have been) group makeout he'd have brought her home. Not going that far with the whole grenade thing lol.


This feeling, I supposed I'll call it "being in state" has only happened to me on this level during that visit to my old school, where I wrote about being "In my element". Perhaps this is a matter of growth in finding myself. Perhaps this is a result of the social confidence I've built in my city, having been growing the "Rogue King" thing for quite some time now. Or maybe I was just in a good mood / the right amount of drunk. Who knows?

What's important is that I must recognize this as a feeling I experienced, rather than a divided part of who I "am" or "was".

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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:46 am

Though I did go a little too deep with the dive and talk about how "people aren't supposed to at a certain point of happiness", which is actually one of my more nihilistic thoughts that sometimes enters my consciousness and one that I'm uncomfortable even writing now.


This is because I'm deeply insecure in that I don't believe I deserve a certain extent of happiness, because I continue to do things that I hate other people for doing.

But I can and will forgive myself, forgive others, and change myself to lead by example in what I find deeply important.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:20 am

Had the sexiest HB8 Pakistani girl at my patio table today. Nice face, beautiful dark eyes, tight waste, plump tits, a sit-on-my-face ass, and my perfect amount of thicc. The moment we started talking, we exchanged in "fuck me" eyes which continued for almost the entire time. She also asked me some silly question about what I had just written down really earlier into the table (I answered it literally when I could have witty - I was slightly nervous/excited from the vibe coming off from her ) so that was a big IOI. BUT, she was sitting with an older gentleman who was buying all the shit, so I thought she could be with her dad, or even with a sugar daddy.

I kept it going and would just make my voice be as attention grabbing as I could with intonation, and eventually she goes, "hey cutie!" and I just blink at her with a sexy smile, then she goes, "hey cutie babe!!" and I do the same thing, then continue along my path. To be honest I just couldn't think of anything witty off the top of my head to respond immediately. Then she yells at me, "was that a wink? because you closed both eyes both times!". I finish my job at one table quickly and then hit her back with, "actually, it was a double wink (; ", and she gets all flustered and goes "oooo (: (: that was smooth".

This is one of the benefits of Server Game at a bar - it's in your turf so you more or less have the authority (which = frame) and the time to think of something and come back is there, if you didn't instantly snap back with something clever the first chance.

In the back, I was losing my shit because of how hot I found this chick and was a dog humping their owners leg in my head - but I couldn't push passed the thought it was her dad with her. So, when she went up to the bathroom, I approach the gentleman and ask if he's her father. He's not, they're just friends! Haha! Well shit! I find how she's pakistani, and they're both visiting from a city a few hours away. I express that I think she's beautiful and he agrees she's the "most beautiful pakistani girl he's ever met" as an iraqi. I thank him for the information, and then as she's walking back in I stop her before she reaches her seat. We're sitting slightly out of view from my boss / coworkers, and only this one lesbian girl saw me do it.

Me: Hey hold on a sec *eye fucking the shit out of her*
Her: (: Hello *reciprocates eye fuck*
Me: I was just talking with your friend, I had thought you were out on a date with your dad... *extends hand* what's your name?
Her: Pakistani Girl. *let's me take her hand* Your?
Me: Hue (; it's very nice to meet you. I never do this but I just thought you were so cute.
Her: Yes, I'm having a very fun time flirting with you *blood starts to fill penis*
Me: *slowly lingers off hand* as am I... I was told you're visiting from [city]?
Her: Mhmm
Me: And is this your first time in [my city]? Or?
Her: No I've been here before, we have a [bar] in [city].
Me: Ahhh okay, well you made a great choice to come here and be able to meet me *cheeky smirk*
Her: (:
Me: I was told you're leaving right after this though? That's too bad...
Her: We could exchange contact information *starts to sway and turn head & body*. Email....social media...
Me: You could give me your number (: *starts to whip out phone*
Her: Okay. You ready?
Me: Wait let me..*whips out server notepad* I don't want my boss seeing me do this. Let me take your order (;
Her: Haha, okay it's XXX-XXX-XXXX. Pakistani Girl
Me: And do you want that iced, or on the rocks? Mmmk, and salt or sugarrr?
Her: Oh the rocks (: and salt.
Me: I think you're the sugar typpe *touches hand* ("I think you like when people give you sugar" would have been better)
Her: No! I'm salt! (:
Me: Okay.. sounds good Pakistani Girl (; *flirtily turns away and back to bar*
Her: (: *flirtily turns away and back to seat*


Right after this my lesbian coworker asked me if I got her number - and it hit me. WHY HAVE I NOT BEEN DOING THIS TO CHICKS IF IT'S ON???? I work at a fucking bar for christ's sake! So long as it's a real thing and I'm not being autistic, why the fuck do I care if my coworkers see me being a hound?? I told her that "yea I did, but shhh - I never do this, usually it's always them". Sure, she's lesbian, but the majority of my coworkers don't see me as a sexual option (one straight girl wants it bad but won't be getting it, most have LTR's, and the other's I have a decent grasp on). Side note: I reframed myself to that coworker from Thursday and have her back interested - but after seeing what I can do with a chick this hot, soberly, I'm way less interested.

I don't talk to them a whole lot after that, because the vibe was so on from when I stopped her, there's no need to dilute it with more neutral engagements. When I do go over it's to get them shots (of really good shit, too) and I say that I would be happy to join them for this round if I wasn't on the clock. She was on the edge for the last one because she had to drive two hours soon, "not one, but TWO hours hehehehe" - her. So cute.

Finally I get them the check and leave them be. I monitor their table closely so that when they do leave I get a final moment to spike attraction / arousal. I stop her at the exact same spot (outside patio) as I did last time and tell her that she needs to be extra careful when driving home, because if she get's a DUI I'm not going to be able to see her again. She giggles and smiles and says that she won't, and I ask for a pinky promise.

We're standing very close and I get her pinky with my left hand, but then she says shes' right handed so we're holding both arms locked up with pinky promises. Then the old dude wingmans for me! and says "well wait you have to kiss it", so I ask if she knows the trick and she doesn't. We kiss our hands and make intense eye contact. As we detach I escalate touch by running my hand down her arm and touch her stomach, to confirm my observation on her level of thicc - and it's spot on. With the sexiest look I can muster I tell her how great it was to meet her and she reciprocates. I go back to bussing their table (got tipped 40$ lol) and wave her a little smile as she leaves-leaves and she giggles. I proceed to eat my entire fist watching that ass move down the street.

I wait 3 hours so she can drive then text her. I screw up at the end, but given the long distance that is already a part of this, it IS redeemable, especially if I follow Hector's Report Texting Vid.
9:16 PM
Me: holaa this is Hue from [bar] (; save my #
Her: Hey cutie babeeeee
Her: You were the best

9:35 PM
Me: that's what they tell me (= you weren't so bad yourself darling
Me: I hope you evaded the pigs on the way home to [city]?

9:53 PM
Her: Hahahah who's they???:p
Her: I did evade the pigs lol
Her: With ease
Her: How ru doing

10:05 PM
Me: good girrllll ;P
Me: I'm just getting off work and super tired
Me: but hey we have to grab a drink in the near future, lemme know a time next week or so you're able to visit [city]


So, she wanted more report / investment over text. This seems more practical since she lives 2 hrs out - but they were only visiting to do yoga at a specific studio so she very likely can visit again. But I don't text back as fast as her initially and keep the energy flowing, then instead of building the vibe through replying to her conversation directions, I lead STRAIGHT to logistics which kills the mood she was entering it from. It's as Hector describes it, too robotic.

EDIT: She also could have interpreted "good girl" as "I'm good girl" in response to "How ru doing" :P

<3 TEXTING <3


I'll text her in a few days if she continues to not respond.


But takeaway: do day game, and have balls to break social barriers when they're congruent with what you want to do.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:13 pm

Almost had a 4-some last night.


I start the night off playing an Xbox drinking game. My younger homie is going out with two ladies and was supposed to call me, but he bailed. I check my snapchat and my coworker is going to the place we work for drinks. I immediately call him and grab his uber just in time.

We have some drinks and food at our bar, then I suggest going to a good Tuesday night bar - my usual spot. We get there and my coworkers fake gets denied. I decide whether I'll go in alone or not, because these dudes wanna smoke a blunt and ya boy Hue can't hang. I decide to go in and scope it out.

Per usual (Yes, I'm a douchebag and say per usual), I see multiple groups of people I know. I talk to one girl and spot another with my peripheral.. it's my coworker I tried to fuck last Thursday. I ignore her and keep scouting the bar to see who all is there. Eventually she comes up to me and wants to talk / hang. After the way I reframed myself she obviously wants to bang, and I'm getting way better attention from her than I was previously.

I run into a lacrosse player I know and we chat - later on his friends want me to take a picture of them and I politely say no - and they stink face the fuck out of me before finding some other chap for their douchey flex-ass pictures. Some real cool guys.

Right after this Thing 1 opens me and it's her birthday!!! >:) >:) >:)

I pick her up and spin her around - and her ass get's blown up and shown to everyone in the bar lol. Love it. She's super embarrassed. Then that crazy bitch she's friends with joins in, and I lead them over to the other bar and we grab drinks. They get there's first and go outside while I wait for mine. I pop back to my other groups to bide time and not give my target too much attention (as this is now social circle gaming).

I pop back over to the girls who now have a group of 4. Thing 1, Thing 2, crazy bitch, and a hot brunette I've never met. We move over to a bench and hang out, drink, and smoke. The hot bartender sees me and I return her looks, giving her a little wave. Crazy bitch brings up how I fucked her with a sock in her mouth... again. I very casually talk about it and somewhat dismiss her.

Then a thought pops in my head. Thing 1, Thing 2, and crazy bitch are all bi. I could probably pull at least a threesome, since I've already fucked Thing 1 and the crazy bitch. They're best friends and have munched eachother's box before, surely I have a shot at making that happen again. From there forward I flirt with them equally, even though I don't personally care for crazy bitch. Eventually crazy bitch is sitting on some dudes lap, but the kid is a pussy and the more I flirt with her the more she moves towards me, eventually grabbing my dick on the bench.

My coworker is eyeing me so I eventually go up to her again. Her bitchy friend is being way cooler to me and my intuition says that she has reframed me to her as well. I chat with her and be a little touchy before saying "I'll be riiight back" and go back to my girls - never to return.

Thing 1 starts asking me about the sex we had because apparently she was drunk and doesn't remember, so I show her the scar she gave me. I lock down and after party, try to pull crazy bitch and Thing 1 to my house and bail - then set up me coming to their place.


Things get really interesting from here


I go home, grab booze and condoms. I text crazy bitch because she wants me more immediately than Thing 1 does, so there's more security in texting her. To my surprise, right after she sends me the address, she hammers me with 4 texts saying Thing 1 is super sick and not to come, come another time blah blah blah. I text her "ummm" and call Thing 1. She's drunk, but she's clearly not puking or anything. Thing 1 was saying to her friends "it's my birthday, Hue is coming". If I had to speculate I would say that Thing 1 starts talking about me, crazy bitch gets jealous and tries to botch my operation, possibly Thing 2 says Thing 1 shouldn't cheat on her boyfriend. Idk, but there I went.


I get there and there's 7 people, and all the girls are paired up besides Thing 1. I just do the same thing as a Slow Burn, and eventually I pull crazy bitch off the guy. Thing 1 is visible very drunk and I tell her, "[Thing 1], you're drunk." When she tries to talk to me - and she makes an active effort to sober up after this. Crazy bitch is on the guys lap again, and I nonverbally communicate I want to fuck her and she mouths silently "I want to fuck you", so I ask her if I can have a glass for my drink. She jumps up and takes me inside.

I walk her into the bathroom and tell her to get on her knees and shes starts sucking my dick. I lift her up on the sink and dick tease her, asking her if she's been checked before entering her. I remember that this bitch is fucking crazy so I put on a condom on. She can't find a good angle, and even after I order her to arch her back and try to physically do it myself, I can't fuck her for more than 5-6 pumps - she's too short and I'm too tall, plus she's not being cooperative. I throw away the condom and we go back outside.

This black dude loses his 300$ earing in the porch and is freaking out and killing the vibe. I calmly tell him he should look for it in the day time, and not tonight because it's very dark and hard to find it. He continues freaking out and eventually calms down and leaves. The hot brunette and her boyfriend leave, along with the guy I just cucked.

So now it's me, Thing 1, Thing 2, and the crazy bitch who I just entered. We typically talked in pairs and eventually Thing 2 starts telling me about some baggage she had to deal with, but my empathy was high in this moment and I treat her like the human being she is and try to understand. This turns into her sitting on my lap, grabbing my dick, and kissing me. Crazy bitch is super upset and I recognize this, so instead of going full hook up with Thing 2 I dial it back a bit. I tell all of them that they are my favorite girls because even though they all have fucked up aspects of themselves, they keep smiling on anyways. Thing 1 comments on how cool I am, and crazy bitch says how sexy I am. Things are moving towards orgy.

Then Thing 2 steals Thing 1 away and they spend like an hour having deep, emotional conversation. Crazy bitch and I keep talking and she is getting impatient with me. We both discover our love for Billie Eilish and play a bunch of her songs. She wants to hug the things and I say we do a group hug - this is the closest I got to foursome.

We all hug, and I can feel everyones energy. I want to make a slow thing, and start kissing everybody. Every bone in my body tells me this would have worked. Then, crazy bitch starts making out with me, stopping, kissing the Things, and grabbing my dick frantically. She totally jumped the gun and ruined it. Fucking impatient bitch. I remain cool and pull off after her explosive arousal kills the vibe and the hug started breaking up.

About 30 minutes later I'm sitting down with Thing 1 and we're making out. I'm pretty drunk at this point and it's hard to remember. At some point after this everyone was wrestling in the kitchen and having a super hot cat fight make out, and then Thing 2 kept bending over for penetration and it was making me really horny. She eventually backed up her beautiful ass onto my dick and I started groping her and rubbing her pussy - but she jumped off and went back to Thing 1 after a while.

Oh yea and I almost fucked Thing 1 on the counter and had my hands in her pussy after that but her ASD with her boyfriend overpowered things. She kept telling me how sexy and hot I was. Then I pass out on the couch. I wake up and text Thing 1 in a very warm way, telling her I'm leaving and to feed her hungry pet (:

Really good times.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:33 pm

New rule: Do not talk about new hook ups if it's not already in the group conversation or being used for seduction. Letting it out in the world isn't necessary and it keeps the energy better if it stays within you. Not that I directly witnessed a negative impact from doing so, but I told my coworker about my adventure last night and as I did I felt less dominant.

Went out after work again. Approached 2 blondes and one didn't hook (I didn't lead conversation) even though I had the holding hand test work, and the other one I just couldn't speak, and asked a weird question. Had a solid convo with that HB7 blonde again, and I found another sticking point.

When I see things starting to fall off, even a little bit, I tend to redirect to "let me get your number" or "let's get coffee". Both times I've done this with social circle recently the girl won't say anything. I think this is because they were either shit testing me or I just needed to lead conversation a little bit a better. As in they want me to pull them home - and if they answer me they understand the frame it creates, which is not something they're interested in.

We were talking about how my day one was overly aggressive with her when they hooked up earlier this summer. A story I did not hear. Then we talked about bringing guys home and I asked what she prefers for the guys she does bring back. She said the guy has to be 1). just as witty as her 2). just as smart as her 3). just as confident as her. For whatever reason, I thought of this in a way that thought, "have I shown these traits yet?" when instead I could have immediately responded back with an answer that captures all three ---> "well what if you're like me and are smarter, wittier, and more confident than you?" which also would have built up arousal - which is what we didn't have enough of at that point in the convo.

So she didn't answer and then some gay guy swooped in to hug her.


I had periodically been talking to my other old coworkers (at a place I didn't particularly like working) and had bounced back to them after this - then talked to their friend who was at whiskey tasting. I was trying to be friendly and all of them starting trying to tool me, I took a little bit of shit, but then they kept tooling, so I responded back a little more aggressive, with "excuse me?" and looked the guy down. I was trying to be friendly and they were putting me down for it, that's rude and I'm not gonna take that. He IMMEDIATELY shot up and tried to befriend me. Ended up asking me to an after party but when I asked if he had the necessary supplies (alcohol, people, and location) he didn't have anything besides an apartment.

Then that old coworker (girl) takes me aside and tells me I'm a douchebag. I brush it off and then she really presses me on being a douche - and uses me listening and being empathetic to her about her depression once at work as an example of me being a douchebag. And that I was bragging about my counseling internship at the time. What in the fuck?

I took her aside and thoroughly explained how fucked up that is, that she's taking something I'm passionate about, trying to get my PhD in, and turning it into some case where I was a douche. Sure, sometimes I make snarky comments, or maybe because of how I deliver something I'll come off as condescending, serious when I'm not, or rude - but I've developed a lot since I worked with her and if she knew anything about me she'd know it's almost always in jest, and I try to bring people up more than I bring them down. It ends with her thoroughly apologizing and trying to buy her a drink. The bar was closed and they weren't serving so I tell her this, and finish concluding on a happier note going back to the advice I gave her last year, (which now she wants to talk about again) saying that if she gets anything out of this, it's that she needs to ask herself what she should do and listen to her feelings, then ask questions - not to other people. If you're doing it to/for other people you'll never be satisfied with their answers.

*deep breath*

Then I walked home. Overall, not a very good night (especially in comparison to tuesday). I'm trying to find my footing in sticking up for myself without being too much of an asshole or being butthurt, and I think I accomplished that last night.

Decided I'll start cutting, now that I've bulked up a bit. Want to develop perfect form for all my exercises, so I don't tear my shoulder when doing heavy weights and let the tiny muscles develop appropriately.
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2018 Goals Check

Postby Hue » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:22 pm

Goals for 2018
1. 22 new lays - for a 50 total
2. Make day-game cold approach a regular thing
3. Forge a frame of steel through self-love and maitenance
4. 4.0 GPA for final semester
5. Kick the GRE's ass
6. Drinking only 2 nights a week, max, during school year (conquer FOMO)
7. Read a book a week
8. Pull a girlfriend-quality woman
9. Stop feeding behaviors that grow external validation
10. Gain 15 lbs of muscle (sitting at 165, 6'1" right now)
11. Threesome!!


Progress
1). 9 (or is it 10? can't find one LR quickie). So I need 12-13+, I can manage that (;
2). Have done some cold approaches but nothing beyond Pumpkin, and a few #'s
3). Still forging, but I've made a lot of progress
4). 3.6, made Dean's List. Was very close and did have A's the majority of the semester
5). Have just began studying / practice testing
6). Not even close
7). Not even close
8). Pumpkin (x)
9). Getting better, but still check social media / people's opinions of me with some weight (some days I feed it, some I don't)
10). I'm at 170 lbs, and have definitely put on muscle. 10 more lbs? I can try but that will be tough. Maybe reinvent my workout plan a bit
11). So close!
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby fog » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:55 pm

woooow hue i am so proud of you!! seems like you made some huge strides in the past few months...its noticeable because the way you describe things in your journal is different than before.

Hue wrote:With the sexiest look I can muster I tell her how great it was to meet her and she reciprocates.


you ever studied up on gunwitch? he recommends that if you're trying to put out a sexual vibe, you should focus on kinaesthetic information over visual information. basically, focus on how good you're feeling in your body, and then put out that vibe vs. focus on what youre seeing in front of you, then put out that vibe.

soo0o0o0 what do you focus on when you're giving girls looks that make them drip?
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:40 am

Day one came to my house right before I move out. Last hurrah if you will. We drink up and head to our usual Thursday. I ask about what happened with him and that HB7 blonde and he explains it in a way that makes me relate to both sides. Ultimately, no one was hurt so I hold no emotion to the situation.

We go to the bar and I can immediately tell my homie isn't feeling it. At one point I am talking to a girl while ordering my drink and I leave a good first impression then ask where her friends are to meet them later. She's not hot enough (HB5) for me but if she's out she must be with others. It's also her first time at the bar (and as said in other posts I regular here Thursdays).

I meet this mad cool dude they're hanging out with after floating with groups for a bit, and connect with him. Should of gotten his #, he was dope. I find my day one again and he's strongly not feeling it - I let him and his apparent crowd remain, then return to the spot I just was. The girls are there and the guy has left.

Jumping back into conversation with the HB5 and I introduce myself to the HB6 blonde she's with. In my head I think "she'll do". I come in a little more energetic than I have been the rest of the night and then move them to another area to "help her describe" a story she had last time she was here. It went okay then started to fizzle out - I mostly think because I slowly but surely differentiated my preoccupation from the HB5 to the HB6, and then I went to buy a drink. This is the most opportune time for a girl to say something that let's them "be friends" and assume anothers trajectory in a way that closes off either of them fucking me but "strengthens" their friendship.

So I run into another guy I was talking to that night to stabilize and we finish our talks about travels. I walk over to another spot in the bar and get opened by that HB7 brunette from verrrry early this summer. We talk and shes' not giving me much nonverbally, but is still investing. So I just do my thing and keep talking to her.

I talk to her friend that I barely remembered for a bit about neuroscience, and then begin conversation with this shorter girl (alright looking - but I wasn't going for her, I was going for the brunette to finish what I started) and talk for a little bit. I get interrupted by the brunette, and she tells me that the short girl has a boyfriend. I sware on my dick I wasn't trying to fuck her. I say "I was just talking to her haha" - as I was, and this guy the brunette apparently brought to the party calls me out.

Him: Hey, you can leave now man.
Me: Haha. I can leave?
Him: Yea dude, you're clearly not wanted here so, now's about time you get the fuck out.
Me: Now's about time I get the fuck out?
Him: Yea *looks around to everybody*, go ahead.
Me: Well, buddy, I was just talking to a girl. I'm familiar with her (brunette) and have talked with her (friend) a couple times. What's your issue?
Him: Hey man just get out of here. Time to leave. *puffs chest out and gets in my face*
Me: (smiling)...What's your name man?
Him: McConner Jester Butter
Me: Haha! Okay well, McConner Jester Butter, it's so nice to meet you...
Other Guy: *puffs chest out, gets in my space* Hey dude, time to leave.
Me: ...
McConner Jester Butter: Yea *smiles* time to get out of here buddy.
Me: *air kisses McConner Jester Butter*, *air kisses Other Guy*... Nice to meet you guys (;


I walk out, and get a drink at the next bar over. Pretty dead, but I had a nice convo with the older fella next to me.

Did I get dominated physically? Yes.
Did I respond accordingly? I'd like to think so.
Do I need to double down on Krav Maga - NO SHIT.

These guys were double my size - and all the confidence + intelligence in the world won't save me from a strong fist to the face. Worth the money. Doing it.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:46 am

songbird,

woooow hue i am so proud of you!! seems like you made some huge strides in the past few months...its noticeable because the way you describe things in your journal is different than before.

Hey man, thanks!

you ever studied up on gunwitch? he recommends that if you're trying to put out a sexual vibe, you should focus on kinaesthetic information over visual information. basically, focus on how good you're feeling in your body, and then put out that vibe vs. focus on what youre seeing in front of you, then put out that vibe.

soo0o0o0 what do you focus on when you're giving girls looks that make them drip?

Never gone deep into Gunwitch, though I did listen to his podcast and I think I remember hearing that (or I'm just out here fabricating memories). It certainly makes sense to focus on your bodily / holistic sensation because other people tend to naturally pick up on that and notice you projecting it.

When I'm giving girls the look I actually focus more on looking deep into their eyes, so much that I do usually experience some sort of bodily sensation. Although, I'm almost completely absorbed into THEM, rather than me. I've noticed this has a powerful effect, and if done at the right moments (like just before a kiss / just as you begin your set), it can works some real magic.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:31 pm

Reflections On Near-Foursome
I should have escalated with Thing 2, because I had already fucked crazy bitch. That would have brought her closer to really wanting to fuck by the end of the night, and she's socially aware enough to know that group sex might be a window for that. So when I tried to escalate with her later I was still getting to 3rd base when I should have been sliding home.

Or, I shouldn't have put my dick in crazy bitch and just let her blow me in the bathroom.

They posted a photo of us from that night, and it's a very accurate depiction of what happened lol. I wonder why she would post that knowing her boyfriend situation though.

Don't React To Bitchy Coworkers
That same girl who was grabbing my ass and clearly wants to fuck me started being a bitch because she 1). eventually AR'd out of attainability issues and 2). was on her period. We both had to close and she was either being a bitch or giving me the silent treatment - and at one point I broke frame and raised my voice when I should have just calmy told her that she needs to stop giving me this attitude because I've done nothing to deserve it.

Friday
Started the night by wingmanning with my straight coworker at a table of older woman. One was a HB4, one was an HB7. He was cool with fucking the 4 so I definitely tried to move shit forward. I was a little more direct in my flirting with the table and I might have said some off-calibrated shit at one point, but I just held frame and used my position as an authority to compensate.

I go out to the bar with a different group of guys and one of them, let's call him The Irish, (who I just realized, is a childish piece of shit that tries to use sophomore tactics to win arguments and cares more about winning than the dialogue itself) just had a nasty breakup with his girlfriend who's moving away after berating her the entire night, slut shaming her, and saying that she was "betraying him" for leaving. Pathetic. Mad Hatter and me had to calm him down and do a good cop bad cop thing (me being as candid as I can be sometimes was bad cop) because he was murdering the vibe on my favorite night to go out.

We bounce to another bar and I run into the older women by happen stance and immediately get my kino going. They had another friend who I paired up with mad hatter and I told them where to meet us. Perfect!

We find another buddy at another bar, and try to get him to come but he's with family and stays. The Irish starts being a child again and saying our buddy is betraying us for not coming out and starts trying to argue again - and I tell him I'm gonna fucking leave if he doesn't stop trying to big dick everyone and bring down everyone's vibe and he just angrily mumbles shit to himself and stops talking.

At another bar we run into some Sweet Bros and girls they're with. I mildly flirt with some of them and generally just talk with the girls because usually conversations with the Sweet Bros and me end with them being condescending and "too cool" to continue whatever we're talking about. I do chat with one of them for a bit though.

A FB from my old school was there and I chat with her before leaving to the next spot. Here there's surprisingly not a lot of people out. I talk with some girls I know and get introduced to one of their sisters who I've allegedly met before and she's subtly interested. I chat with her and his creepy dude she knows comes up to her to talk and so she leans into me and says, "hey I"m actually with my boyfriend tonight" and I pull her in and grab her ass. She's a little chubby so after she thanks me for the save I eject and approach a two set.

Two Set
I open by saying, "hey excuse me for a sec I just thought you're friend was super cute and wanted to talk to her *looks at friend*, hey, I'm Hue". Both are very intrigued from the get go and it's an immediate hook. One is not hot, the other is an HB7 black chick. We talk about a bunch of shit, mainly platonic, and I move them to go get pizza nearby. The line takes forever and at one point the friend leaves us alone.

I give her bedrooms eyes and the sexual tension RAMPS up. I was gonna let it build slowly, but the girl changed her mind and came right back after this, so what I should have done is push it even stronger and pull her into my lightly, this would probably have made her wet enough to invest more into me. Instead we keep chatting and the friend ends up setting up an uber. When she does I invite the friend home infront of her after screening for logistics somewhat poorly (I've just moved into my studio and not everything was set up and I was stupid enough to mention it - then I invite her over after her place gets turned down so it's incongruent and somewhat needy).

Realizing I'm fucked, I tell the gross one to go wait for the Uber, as there is something I need to tell her friend. She leaves, and I line up a passionate kiss, pull off, and give her another, then she pulls off. I get her number and she splits, never to text back after two attempts.


Tuesday
Went out then had an after party at my place, some girl came with her boyfriend and as I was talking to her the boyfriend got super pissed at me. I was just fucking talking to her! Fuck lol, this his happening so consistently now. Was a good night for social proof, but not approaches.

Wednesday
I flirt with one of my coworkers after the shift then leave on a high note. At the bar I see R and she notices me then starts making out with another guy in front of me lol.

I see the black chick from last month but can't find a good opener, then lose her. My old old coworkers are there and I try to talk to them but the all subtly don't give me attention likely because of my player reputation there (I've had like 10 girls there to get drinks lol) and some rude holes in my memory as to meeting some of the people they work with.

Then, two blondes are next to my friend and I and drop their phone. I open by saying, "you dropped that". They both instahook and are two besties who are visiting eachother now that they've graduated. One is an HB7.5, one's an HB6. Things are going good and they're both excited and engaged with me, but then I make a crucial mistake. As they were both qualifying themselves to me and telling me all about themselves, I find out that the HB6 made the same transfer of schools as I did, and so I dive into that with her at the same moment that the HB7.5 is trying to tell me about her.

So, my similarity with one became raised, and lowered with the other as a result. Also, it made it seem to the other like I'm not all that interested. It puts a dampening effect on my attraction. I do something I never do and buy both of them shots. We keep talking and having fun, then the hotter one goes back outside while I talk to the other (who tells me she has a boyfriend and she has to be up at 9 AM tomorrow - fuck). I did persist a bit towards the end and stole a kiss with her but that's it.

So I try to reel in the other one, but she started talking to these guys who I assumed to be her friends. Instead of keeping the two girl all to myself (that could have ended in a much better way!) I joined groups with these strangers and we all enjoyed eachothers company for the rest of the night.

By the very end I'm competing for the girls attention like an idiot and then the bar closes. I get a pretty hard rejection to get her number / keep the party going and she was ignoring me. I chased somewhat. I'm not all that upset, because I see clearly my mistakes.

With that first mistake of the similiarity thing, I FELT it happening like "oh shit" as I was doing it. This means that my instincts are getting better in the field (=



About to have two very lively nights as summer classes just ended >:)
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:39 pm

Thursday

There's a new bartender at my bar and she's fucking sexy :D

Went out with my good homie since he just aced his exams. Ran into some friends who I thought had girls to hang but they bailed, then we left to a different bar. Opened two blondes, one was a HB9, then they bailed and I couldn't find them later. I stalled for a microsecond in conversation and didn't lead as well as I could have.

My friend and I were getting really drunk and I was starting to lose control. We eventually left to a different bar and talked to these two dudes. I was low key running my mouth about this random dude's profession, saying that it's pseudoscience. We talked and had a "debate" and I won, then they bought me a shot. Right before they asked if I was paying in such a way that I grew suspicious they were trying to tool me or some shit so after the shot I left. They were probably just being reasonable. Hope I didn't burn a bridge, they seemed cool.

My phone died and I lost my friend so I walked back early as to not get mugged on the way back, it was a long way to my house. I stop at this chicken place on the way back, and notice this girl who looks oddly familiar. They leave just before me and I catch up to them.

It's my first hookup from being a server at my first job! We talked for a bit and I was drunk as shit so probably somewhat sloppy. She got hotter. Slimmer waste, better ass, say a strong HB7 now. I stupidly said, "oh yea... I served your table, we got coffee, and then you blew me!" lol fucking shit. Frames her as trashy.

If I remember correctly I originally lost her because of attainability and her feeling like a slut. She said, "what do you think of me?" right after she blew me, and I said "that's none of your business" when instead I should have qualified her. Almost two years ago exactly... damn.

I texted her after that I just had a good laugh looking at our old texts and would love to see where she is now. Though, I probably should have waited until this morning, and I doubt she'll respond now. Ah well.

Let's not get as drunk tonight and keep the eyes on the prize.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:11 am

Friday
Had some good times with close friends. Spent more time talking with them than anything that night, eventually to lose them. We were at my place mostly and then I decided what bars to go to. I realized that other than the secondary activity (commradary) everyone still needs a primary activity to be attending to for the night, and this starts to create conflicts if not everyone wants the sams things.

At the bar I lost them at I only approaches a two set and they didn't hook rather early on, but told them to meet us at a more lively one instead of strong leading. I left to a different one where i approaches a group. The girl I wanted said she wasn't interested but her friend was, who was super drunk. Went home alone after grabbing ss food.


Work
The non-binary co-worker I have is talking shit on me behind my back, and I've noticed subtle changes in behavior from many of my coworkers. I thanked my friend for creating a situation that let me have fun with a girl giving me the silent treatment/a bitchy attitude for 2 weeks (she was on her period) and a gay guy started to stir the pot and try to make me look bad behind my back. I just kept being joking amd silly when I felt like it and he seemingly backed off.

Girls are practical in their emotions and use scapgoating / a replacement target to dish them out, or create some sort of superiority to a third party.

While I don't like this happening, the only thing in my power to do is to keep being myself, tone down the asshole vibe a little, and be a good worker. I also showed some "lover" traits (or more precisely, social awareness or maturity under the situation we were talking about) when talking to one of the bartender friends about how men should not berrate women just because they're upset about not being in full control of the relationship situation.


On another note, women showing IOI's isn't enough to get the girl, and by this I mean that IOI's can mean many nuances of attraction.

With one girl who will strongly tell me "don't touch me" one day and the next week grab my hand + arms or look at me sexually, this is simply her being in a horny mood, or a bad mood. One bartender with a boyfriend will coldly tell me to "keep my comments to myself" one day and openly flirt and giggle in a bubbly way the next.

Part of this is what kind of attention / dick they're getting from guys or of they want thay type of attention. When they do, they'll reciprocate it. Perhaps really good seducers can find the source and reframe her mindset, but for where I'm at that's not something I can do (yet).

Just some thoughts I wanted to get down. More to explore here later.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:44 am

Asian from last week

Totally forgot to write a field report from last Monday with that asian chick I approached at the bar. Brought her home and hooked up with her but couldn't push past LMR, and I didn't move her appropriately, which is literally what she told me she wanted. That this was too much of a "college" date. She was 26, never found my age, but knew I was still in undergraduate. I walked her to a "nature reserve" near my house without actually going into it, and instead just going to my house. Next time I'm DEFINITELY going through the nature, then going to my house. It lines up perfectly now that I think about it after a simple, "let's walk". Process is polishing itself nicely >=)

I think my main mistake was bending my frame in conversation as a conversationalist in the way I said I could see her point of view on certain topics. It may have came across as me adopting her views rather than having my own. Eventually attraction lowered to the point where we just had a hard makeout. Actually, she gave me resistance at the end and I didn't persist all that much, where if I did something to say, Grand Pooba's length of persistence perhaps she'd have allowed it. Texted her a few later no answer.


Car Girl
'Today while getting my car fixed up a HB7 short brunette was reading a book right next to me. After some time, I decided to put down the book I was reading and ask what she was reading. We talked briefly and I hit the note of similarity quickly with her, she goes to the same school as I do and used to be a psychology major. Right at the end she asked where I worked and I was wearing my uniform out of a tight schedule & preparation and had a window to ask for her number, but instead just said, "you know who to ask for next time you go" and she asked for my number. It was somewhat exciting.

Then she came back to say that her car needed more fixing and she couldn't drive. We talk for another two hours about many things, but the mechanic kept coming back and asking if I also wanted X, Y, and Z fixed which I agreed to after reasoning for a bit. The problem is this dragged on the conversation to boring points and it eventually started to fall flat. HAD IT NOT, I was going to give her a ride and invite her into my home, 100% and go for the instalay.

I could have made conversation go from music --> music during sex --> show me a music video / I wanna show you my music video choices before I work --> sex, plus logistics were fucking perfect with where she leaved. And my new smaller crib is better for hookups.

At one point she had reframed her story about his lame guy to match my preferences (huge IOI) and I stupidly kept talking in the direction that was a neutral / non-cool topic the lame guy generally mentioned in the story.

Overall it dragged onto too many neutralish topics and it wasn't until the end I was sitting close to her or even having touch. Similarity + Connection there, not enough arousal or even flirting from my end. I also set up the date too early and the excitement of this cool new guy she met peaked too early. I showed a somewhat byronic & passionate trait at the end by talking about career paths, then end it finally after getting close to her and making some joke to the girl next to us (social proof). Once I pay for my car I tell her I'm gonna give her a ride, and she says her dad is already on the way. I clarify on time then understand.

At the very end I go, "Thursday?" and she said probably, and I had a perfect opportunity to game back and say, "okaay ;P well then I might probably text you".

Instead I said, "okay. I'll text you. *turns and steps away* nice meeting you *backward extends leg to tap with foot* and she gave me a good smile at the end. There had been just us for so long and then two women entered the room. Wonder if this effected it because of observers, and girl observers especially. This isn't terrible but robs the mystery.

Lastly I texted her two hours later, "[girl] right? this is Hue save my #" to lower attainability (it now being too high with my outro) and got the name wrong, she texted back "actually it's CarGirl lol" and I just sent back an emoji. Lowers my value in the lack of remembering her, lowers attainability to not be a total chase, raises my value of being busy. Mixed message too, which could be good if it doesn't autoreject her.

So now I don't text her till Thursday and hope for the best! (=


It was cool though. Almost got a girl in the car with me after meeting her at car repair, and I'm confident she would have been down. The reason she said no was because 2 hrs later her dad was finally on his way to pick her up, where if I hadn't had the two extra jobs done to my whip then I could have closed faster. That's some real ass logistics fucking up a seduction right there. Ah well.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby sneaky_charm » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:26 am

Hi Hue,

It's awesome that you keep posting field reports. Writing them makes things very clear indeed. How are you doing?

About the Asian girl, what do you mean by " I didn't move her appropriately, which is literally what she told me she wanted."?

Also, in a month, how many sets do you approach and what is your number, date, and lay ratio?

Hope the Car Girl is excited to see you on Thursday! Keep pimpin' :)

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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:44 am

Tuesday

Technically approached some birthday girls tonight. I was out with Tuna for his 21st and it seemed like the thing to do but despite some IOI's none of the 4 top wanted to talk. Most likely a tie between..
)not good enough open/energy by me when I began and
)they were minded towards their "birthday girls night out" frame.

A solvable problem, with effort. Honestly, did not feel like it :P

Had an interesting text conversation with this Tinder missy I've been working on for... almost 2 weeks now. She seems to be latina and I followed Richard's "How to fuck a Latina" or whatever guide and it's working. It's honestly more about outcome independence than anything. Latina's may be oriented a certain way if they're hard family raised (beyond me, I'm midwest muthafuckas) but to each his (or her, 2018 lololol) own.


Buuuut yea left birthday boy with his GF after she obviously wanted to be alone with him and had an after party at my place. Hosting in a studio sucks - social proof was good for everybody but the guy that had every afterhours party last year who's 1 experienced and 2 resentful. He's a hard alpha, in his own right. Noticed hard that he didn't pay me attention until I had a nice apartment to go to though.

Admittedly, I extend the offer because of his value.. though..


Hmm.


Yea, we mutually respect a superficial relationship. For now, no reason to stick a spear in that... I suppose. Despite the fact I don't like myself for doing that. If it continues I may have to step down his dominance a tad (at least in my household) and we'll see how things go.

Yea, keep it rolling - we'll see how bubblin it gets.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:21 pm

Hi Hue,

It's awesome that you keep posting field reports. Writing them makes things very clear indeed. How are you doing?

About the Asian girl, what do you mean by " I didn't move her appropriately, which is literally what she told me she wanted."?

Also, in a month, how many sets do you approach and what is your number, date, and lay ratio?

Hope the Car Girl is excited to see you on Thursday! Keep pimpin' :)

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Thanks brotha, I'm starting to take more time into how I analyze situations - for a while there I was just going out, getting drunk and posting with not enough attention to important details.

With the Asian girl, when we were back at my place she goes, "this feels like a college date. have you ever, you know, gone on a date where you gooo, you get drinks, you walk over somewhere and grab some food, you go see something and then maybe at the end you go home with them?" and she wanted more of a date date than I gave her. So, I didn't invest enough / built enough of a connection and lost her. She's also ghosted me full on at this point.

I have no clue how many approaches I do a month. If I had to guess I'd say roughly 50-60. That's mostly night game cold approach, some social circle, and some day game contextual opening.

Usually I don't go for numbers because instalays are more fun and a lot of times numbers don't lead anywhere for reasons xyz. A LOT of times girls will go along with the number thing, enjoy the attention you've given her, and be satisfied with that, maybe humble brag to her friends about it. I see girls framing guys as chasing them at work aaaalll the time, when in fact they probably are just twisting the situation to their benefit.

I'm actually on a dry spell right now and have had a handful of hookup in the past two months but only a few lays. Makes me extremely horny and hungry to seduce, though.

Whether Car Girl flakes or not, I have a coffee date with that Latina girl and she seems very excited to meet me ;)
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:12 pm

Wednesday

Casino with Tuna for his bday. Never gambling again lol what a waste of cash. Eventually found our way to a crowded bar, saw R and tried to pull, but after she confronted me about what happened with her (I lost interest and stopped fucking her) she said that she was permanently mad at me because "of how I didn't let her stay the night" because that's potentially going to get her raped. While this is a bad time to be walking around at this our of the night, it's in her full power to call an uber. This is seen as insensitive of me, because why would I make her pay to do that instead of being nice and letting her stay the night. Well, I'd rather she pay 6 dollars than to give her the wrong expectations.

After this I almost kissed her, but then she realized what I was doing and outburst, "you were flirting with me sister!!!" and stormed off.

What this ultimately comes down to, was that she liked me but I didn't invest with her. Potentially, because she's inexperienced enough, she may have this a repeating pattern with guys, and continually being frustrated.


Thursday

Really bad night.

Went to my usual Thursday place, and everyone is back for the school year so it was packed. Ran into my coworker and tried to flirt but she was uninterested - so time to stop going for my coworkers before I become some creep (reoccuring theme of the night).

I open this HB7 brunette who I've talked to before and wanted to see if she remembered me. We chit chat and her friends kinda let me plant into the conversation, before her drink runs out and they're all about to play some game. I say we'll go get new drinks (they're super cheap here) and she pauses then agrees. We get our drinks and I ask her to hang out and stay on the wall with me and talk. She does and we talk for an hour or so, then I eventually ask her to leave to check out the nature preserve near my house (my new place to take girls before I pull them, at least what I want to do). She says no and needs to talk with her friends. I say that's fine and we go back to her friends.

Her friends are very friendly with me and talkative. I chat with them and lose my girl, then find her again talking to some dude. I'm very warm in my approach and greet the guy, who's a bouncer. He immediately goes, "oh is this the creep?" I look at her, then him and say "excuse me? haha. I'm the creep, [girl]?" and she's obviously uncomfortable. He amusingly presses me on this and I explain that I have no problem with being rejected, and if she isn't interested she should just say so, and that we've been talking for over an hour. He kind of seems to be listening to what I'm saying but not giving me any power, and I eject.

Moments later I'm opened by an HB8 blonde who I thought I'd never see again. At the end of last semester she greeted me on the stairwell of a bar, and I immediately felt something for her. She's in a popular sorority. I kicked myself because I went to use the bathroom and lost her. She opens me and it's her birthday. She's very interested in me and was impressed by a presentation I gave in the psychology building. We talk for about 15 minutes and her friends slowly become welcoming to me and giving me IOI's. We all start to leave to go to some after party. I'm in a great mood because I've been super hoping I'd run into this chick again - and here she is giving me interest and leaving the bar with me (on the way out the bouncer says he'll see me later and I'm walking out side by side with this chick - it also stroked my ego in that regard). This was my utter downfall.

We start coming towards the place, and we're right next to the nature preserve. So, logically, I ask her to put a pause on the party and walk with me down the preserve. She agrees to leave the group, with me, and go to the nature preserve!

We're about halfway through, and then she stops, says she should go back, because she has a boyfriend. I see this as ASD, and respond fucking HORRIBLY to her resistance. I explain that I don't have orthodox views about relationships, and she explains that she loves her boyfriend and isn't going to do something that would be disrespectful to him. I should have fucking stopped, and left back with her to the party. That would have been FINE.

Instead, I make some hail mary attempt at being romantic and bring up the stairwell where I felt the connection. This is horribly done, and instead of coming off as romantic, I actually came across as needy and chasing. Then, I make the decision to start walking off, and she calls my name to come back. I turn and look at her and she questions how I could possibly just leave a girl at 2 AM on the street. I don't know what to say, and have a heavy amount of cognitive dissonance. I fold and agree to walk her back, but she's already called an uber by the time I decide.

She's called an uber at this point and is getting out of here. Her facial expressions had gone from all smiles to expressionless and analytical (alert and probably defensive). My drunk ass assumes I'm still invited to the party, and as I try to get into the uber, she reacts, "What are you doing?? No. You go back and do you're thing and I'm doing mine." I'm so confused at this point I just freeze up and she slams the car door and drives away. I stand there, blankly, trying to contemplate what just happened.

Also, it was pouring down rain the entire time - just to make it all that much more dramatic.

I go home and smoke a bowl, then ridicule myself for how deeply I've become possessed by trying to get pussy and into my entire mental construct being not that of most of peoples when it comes to dating, relationships, and seduction and how this is bad for me on a karma & outcome level if I don't get a better handle on it.

Could really appreciate some insight / direction if anyone has advice to offer.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:44 pm

After thoughts on Thursday

I responded to her ASD, specifically her having a boyfriend, with "I have an unorthodox view of relationships", which is implicitly me trying to convince her to cheat. So, I reinforced her ASD and she began to reverse rationalize why she was with me.

Then, I showed unattractive traits and I showed my card, further reinforcing me chasing and a frame of "this guy cheats, he doesn't care" AND "this guy is more emotionally invested in this than me" which is a rather pathetic frame to exude.

When I began to walk off and she reacted, it was more of a reaction to her temporary lack of safety than it was "don't leave me!".

Lastly, I thought too much like a man, and assumed conditional agreements were still in place from our "plans". With women, once the condition of emotion is removed or changed, they will usually find a way to discontinue plans/arrangements in a non confrontational way, which she did.

This was all very confusing when I was drunk, disoriented, and having had multiple bad experiences with women in the past few weeks from player reputation, being called a creep, and being consistently confronted by guys about talking to "their" women.

If this does affect my reputation in greek life (and it probably will if I'm at a party with this girl's friends) that's too bad.

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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:50 pm

Friday

Started the night earlier than expected because my buddy was extremely ready to go out. We grabbed a few beers at this older-adult bar but the noise was too loud so we left to a pool bar with this clothing designer we know who's in town. The guy brings up this rapper who's having a party downtwon, we pregame at my house then head there.

Party's pretty dope, and one bartender there is this girl who used to be fat but now she's skinny and hot. I exchange a few looks with her and talk to her while I get my drink. Also in the bathroom line I started flirting with two girls who were both very engaged but lost them later. Also got into a deep discussion about the current state of media with my buddy who's becoming a lawyer.

Eventually my coworker texts me it's her last night in town, and to meet her at a different bar. I tell the guys I'm out and dip. On the walk over some kids from my highschool are walking out of a different bar and attack-hug me. I can definitely get it in with two of the chicks they're with and tell them to meet me inside the next place. I cut the line and thereafter help 6 people cut the line so they buy me a shot once we're in there.

I'm standing around for all of two seconds before two girl who's table I served start to totally come onto me. One's a HB6 redhead, one's a HB5 brunette. I'm drunk and horny so my mind conjures threesome potential. They fight for my attention and I'm grabbing both their asses and dodging their attempts to kiss me. I start to invite them home and they're down, but then run into a logistics problem. They think my house is too far away (even though it's only a short uber's distance).

So, I pass the two back and forth before eventually the HB5 starts really fighting for my attention. Meanwhile the HB6 grabs two new guys and next thing I know is riding their back and being very physical. I call the uber immediately and tell them to come, and they leave with the dudes, inviting me to come. I then have two options - 1). compromise my frame and "after party" plotline to go with them, and adapt as needed in competition with two other guys or 2). get in my uber and leave.

I should have just stayed at the bar and picked up some new tail..

But I chose option 2 to remain congruent and hold my frame. Frustrating.


Also had a funny conversation with that black tinder girl where she "started seeing someone" and a week later texted me that she's not anymore and wants to get fucked lol. Had that lined up for this afternoon but she had something important come up.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:28 am

So, I saw a new member bring up a Red Pill guy named Roosh V. I took a look at his website's forum and checked it out. A lot of really experienced guys on there, and even more extremely toxic mentalities / understandings. The forum has a very high volume and it seemed promising for a day or two. I poked around to his Youtube channel and oh my fucking god he wants to create legislature to legalize rape IN HOPES IT WILL DECREASE RAPE, as well as remove education for women.

Just, truly, disgusting. Idiotic, extremely toxic, propaganda. I'm sure he has some good things to say, but jesus fuck man. What scares me is people listen to this guy and potentially act upon it.


On a less negative note I just banged a chick from one of my tables. Thicc Indian HB6, nice big ass. She left her number a month or two ago and I didn't text her persistently enough / properly and I completely forgot about her. Then she came in drunk with her family and was chasing the hell out of me, I played it cool and flirted back / joked with the family. She told me to text her when I was off so I did around 1. Some flirty texting and me setting up logistics and I get to her house at around 2:30. I had a few drinks myself, and screened to see if she had any impaired judgement. She said that she had mostly sobered up and from talking to her I perceived her as completely fine / functional. We banged 3 times, no LMR. I may write a real LR tomorrow when I'm less tired. Dry spell over!
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:59 am

Overall note
I'm not keeping myself entertained with people, and I'M autorejecting too quickly. Keep engaging, keep leading, and keep conversation moving towards cool things and ideas.

Because I'm becoming more confident, I can feel myself rejecting "rules" that are contrary to mainstream belief - including that of GC. It is now up to me to decide if I can uphold these ideas against each other and find a superior argument to base my own actions off of. Considering I'm an "on the fly" learner in nearly everything I do - as I'm an extremely active person during the school year - this could get interesting.


Sunday
Every block on the street had 2+ parties on it. I walked over to my neighbors to an extremely weird party. Young (probably 17-20) girls, and a TON of beta dudes. I use the term beta in the sense that they are fully engrained in a leftist agenda, and actively bring up masculine traits as negative (or toxic masculinity - as it is - when unnecessary). I felt out of place and left to a different party. 80% freshmen, also felt out of place.

Yet, I forced myself to approach and talked to 3 freshmen, one of whom was an HB7 brunette. Very introverted. I pushed through for like 3 minutes and had the 2 interested but not her, so I bounced. I find Mr. President outside and talk with him and his friends for about half and hour. This one freshmen was eyeing me but I didn't feel like opening a freshman 6 top so I didn't.

Hindsight I probably could have. At this point I realize that even if you say something that doesn't land, you holding frame is #1. I'm starting to think that maybe part of my nervousness is my own empathy of their nervousness. But idk - more on that later.

Anyway, the freshman approach me again and we talk. One of them is Mr. President's sister! Great. I've already cucked you, now I'm talking to your sister. She wasn't the one I was going for but right as I started to get small talk away and focus on the HB7, Mr. President interrupts. They squabble with his frat for a bit then leave the party. I chat around and leave myself.


I head back to my neighbors and theres less weird people. I strike up a convo with an HB6 there and talk to her for a bit. It starts to get a little political so I meta the situation and window for a deep qualification by saying that it's not the politics that I care about - "its the way that you think that I'd like to uncover" and she beams back.

Then she gets interrupted by a seamingly bi/lesbian girl at the party and she can't keep her off her. A cute blonde with a weird hat stares me down so I tell her to give me her hat so I can try it on. She has a lisp and is awkward, so convo doesn't go very far.

Hmm. I showed up here smashed a few months ago and almost fucked a girl in the bathroom. I think these girls are so used to beta guys that when AN ALPHA LIKE ME (jk lol - a guy who isn't subscribed to some mainstream left ideas) shows up they start to get their clits triggered. I got bored around 2 and left.


b]Tuesday[/b]

First day back in class. Have a lot of potential ahead of me for my last semester as an undergrad.

I needed to be social before actually talking to girls. This freshman started talking to me about his boring schedule and I didn't give a flying shit about it, but I demanded of myself to be nice enough to talk with him and help him along his way. When he was ranting to a bottemless conversation, I just said "nice" and smiled at him. He eventually got the idea and I wished him best of luck in his travels.

I could have been a dick and ignored him, looked at my computer/phone, been blunt as fuck or whatever. But I'm actively trying to provide positivity - it's a goal of mine.

Then this girl sits next to me and I can't tell if she's hot enough from my peripheral. I keep doing what I'm doing and eventually close out my computer, phone, and book, until I'm idly staring at the ceiling.

I open with a question about her service dog, then turn it towards her. We joke about the pup, talk about her interests in that department of the university, and I start turning the gears of making day game conversation fun. I have her laughing her ass off at ridiculous tangents that I'm pulling from details she's giving me, then switch back to deep diving when I feel necessary.

I realize there's a lot of eyes on us as class is about to start. Perfect.

This class is 80% freshmen nursing students (girls) by the way.


Then some disappointment. I walk in to where I had pre-calculated where the best place to sit in the class was, and another super senior yells to me (from my HS) and asks me to sit down. I don't like talking to her - she's boring. But, if I don't, then I'm a fucking asshole.

So, I spend the majority of day 1 with her. No big.


There are SO many hot freshman in my class though. Fuck is this gonna be fun.
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Re: Get Pussy Or Die Tryin'

Postby Hue » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:31 pm

Tuesday Night

Was too tired to type this up last night. I went out and saw Lipstick who was non compliant so I diced. Also I couldn't get conversation off the ground with her. I noticed though, upon entering the conversation I viewed her different than I did 3-4 months ago, and give her almost no power. I see her tactics as a cute ploy to get attention.

There was a cute black girl with a big ass floating next to me so I opened her. 1 minute into conversation she tried to take my snapchat and I laugh and say that we're talking right now. Obvious shit test. We kept talking and then went outside, but my friend who was supposed to be getting me a drink didn't know how to order (gaaah why do I occasionally hang with this dude? he's too low value) and I had to stop what I was doing to "help" him. I lost site of my girl who then returned to her friends.

I introduce myself, taking note of Tony D's comment that the guys at the bar I meet shouldn't be aware I'm seducing their chick, and make friends. When I try to return my attention to the girl she's no longer interested.


Also I approached a 6 top on Monday and forgot to write it up. I had a place to be and started to deviate from talking and walking with all of them, and the girl who I was interested in (and showing me IOI's) totally shifted once I started taking the conversation in a direction away from her and my physical direction away from the group. Girls, friends or not, want your attention, not attention to their friend.


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