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Sorry about the length of this post, but there's a lot to cover. I've been working on my seduction skills privately for a few months, but a series of recent rejections have motivated me to start this journal.
Introduction
21 year old college senior who has never been good with girls. Found GC in November, and it has changed my life. Not only am I better with girls, but I'm better socially in general. I have an easier time meeting new people, form deeper connections, and garner more respect.
I started getting serious and approaching random girls in late January. As a student at an engineering school, I don't have access to many attractive women, but I try to make the best of my situation. Most days, before and after class, I'll visit the library and the study/hangout building and approach any cute girls I find who are alone. Most of the single ones I meet give me their numbers. When I first started, I was shocked by how easy it is. Getting a number is easy, that is. They are worthless, though - no responses to my texts, and I've gotten 0 dates. What's going on? What should my success rates be here? I use a direct opener, keep the interactions short, and ask for a date before I get the number. I currently have 2 promising numbers who have responded to my texts, plus 2 that I haven't tried yet. I'll text them all next week when I return from spring break.
I still managed to hook up with one of the girls who wouldn't set up a date through text, because she was at a party at my fraternity house. It was just a matter of getting her alone in my room. She resisted for a long time because "she's not easy" and "I'm not serious about her," but I followed Chase's advice on overcoming objections and it worked like a charm. We would have slept together, but her friend interrupted us...This was very motivating despite the interruption because in the past I never would have persisted beyond her objections. Thanks to this site I knew what she wanted regardless of the words she said. Thank you Chase!
I'm currently on spring break in Florida. Originally planned to bring a friend who knows about my efforts and has been very helpful, discussing seduction and critiquing me. Since he flaked last minute I'm on my own, but it's probably for the best since it forces me to push my limits. This city isn't a big spring break location, so no scads of girls looking for sex or giant parties, but I have an apartment to myself. It's near the beach, near a college that is mostly female, and has a great view. Consequently, my goal for this week is simple: find a cute girl, bring her back here, and sleep with her. Shouldn't be too hard, right?
But for some reason, I've been getting blown out. I must have approached 20-30 girls so far and have nothing to show for it. Here's my daily routine:
The college here is a Christian college, so lots of couples and a surprising number of married girls. Still, I've met a decent number of single girls. I struggle to hold a conversation with them, though. They act disinterested and skeptical, and I think I come off as creepy. Why is it so much harder here than at my school? Is it because the girls are religious, or because I stop them as they're walking instead of meeting them when they're sitting down as I do at my school, or am I just getting nervous? Strangely, the girls who are in a relationship are much more open to me. This is something I've noticed at my school, too - any comments?
Here's how I start these conversations:
me, from the side: Hey, are you single?
her, skeptically: yes
me: What are you up to today, other than picking up boys?
she replies
me: Do you go here?
her: yes
me: Then tell me, how do you ever get any work done with the beach so near by?
followed by a bit of deep diving, then asking her out. Always a no...
The beach has been better. On the 2 days when the weather was nice and people were out I approached sets of 2 girls with indirect-direct and hung out with them for a while. I failed to frame the interactions as sexual, though, and nothing came of it.
I still haven't given up on bedding a random girl this week. Whether or not I succeed, though, this trip has been helpful in that it's given me an opportunity to focus all my energy on improving and pushing my limits in a city that's far away from home full of girls I'll never see again. Some examples of pushing my limits:
Things to work on:
I can feel myself getting better and more confident despite my failures. This post is already very long and it's late, so I'll stop here. I'll write more tomorrow with more detail. Thanks for any advice you guys can give.
E
Introduction
21 year old college senior who has never been good with girls. Found GC in November, and it has changed my life. Not only am I better with girls, but I'm better socially in general. I have an easier time meeting new people, form deeper connections, and garner more respect.
I started getting serious and approaching random girls in late January. As a student at an engineering school, I don't have access to many attractive women, but I try to make the best of my situation. Most days, before and after class, I'll visit the library and the study/hangout building and approach any cute girls I find who are alone. Most of the single ones I meet give me their numbers. When I first started, I was shocked by how easy it is. Getting a number is easy, that is. They are worthless, though - no responses to my texts, and I've gotten 0 dates. What's going on? What should my success rates be here? I use a direct opener, keep the interactions short, and ask for a date before I get the number. I currently have 2 promising numbers who have responded to my texts, plus 2 that I haven't tried yet. I'll text them all next week when I return from spring break.
I still managed to hook up with one of the girls who wouldn't set up a date through text, because she was at a party at my fraternity house. It was just a matter of getting her alone in my room. She resisted for a long time because "she's not easy" and "I'm not serious about her," but I followed Chase's advice on overcoming objections and it worked like a charm. We would have slept together, but her friend interrupted us...This was very motivating despite the interruption because in the past I never would have persisted beyond her objections. Thanks to this site I knew what she wanted regardless of the words she said. Thank you Chase!
I'm currently on spring break in Florida. Originally planned to bring a friend who knows about my efforts and has been very helpful, discussing seduction and critiquing me. Since he flaked last minute I'm on my own, but it's probably for the best since it forces me to push my limits. This city isn't a big spring break location, so no scads of girls looking for sex or giant parties, but I have an apartment to myself. It's near the beach, near a college that is mostly female, and has a great view. Consequently, my goal for this week is simple: find a cute girl, bring her back here, and sleep with her. Shouldn't be too hard, right?
But for some reason, I've been getting blown out. I must have approached 20-30 girls so far and have nothing to show for it. Here's my daily routine:
- wake up around noon and approach girls at the college that's near my apartment for around 2 hours.
- go to the beach around 2-3 and approach girls there
- go to a nearby shopping center in the evenings
The college here is a Christian college, so lots of couples and a surprising number of married girls. Still, I've met a decent number of single girls. I struggle to hold a conversation with them, though. They act disinterested and skeptical, and I think I come off as creepy. Why is it so much harder here than at my school? Is it because the girls are religious, or because I stop them as they're walking instead of meeting them when they're sitting down as I do at my school, or am I just getting nervous? Strangely, the girls who are in a relationship are much more open to me. This is something I've noticed at my school, too - any comments?
Here's how I start these conversations:
me, from the side: Hey, are you single?
her, skeptically: yes
me: What are you up to today, other than picking up boys?
she replies
me: Do you go here?
her: yes
me: Then tell me, how do you ever get any work done with the beach so near by?
followed by a bit of deep diving, then asking her out. Always a no...
The beach has been better. On the 2 days when the weather was nice and people were out I approached sets of 2 girls with indirect-direct and hung out with them for a while. I failed to frame the interactions as sexual, though, and nothing came of it.
I still haven't given up on bedding a random girl this week. Whether or not I succeed, though, this trip has been helpful in that it's given me an opportunity to focus all my energy on improving and pushing my limits in a city that's far away from home full of girls I'll never see again. Some examples of pushing my limits:
- Approached my first set of 2 girls (4 sets so far)
- Approached a mother/daughter pair. Still can't believe I did that. The mother loved it, even if the daughter wasn't very interested.
- Approaching girls as they're walking. In the past I've only approached girls who were sitting down. I'd spot them, sit near them, collect myself, then approach. Here I must approach immediately without hesitation.
Things to work on:
- Being more sexual and playful
- Getting girls engaged in conversation
- Persisting: I'm not quick enough on my feet yet to overcome objections, which is frustrating because I know that at least with some of the girls I could have kept the interaction going.
- Launching: I still hesitate sometimes and lose opportunities.
- Touch: I barely touch girls. It feels forced, but I've been trying to push myself.
I can feel myself getting better and more confident despite my failures. This post is already very long and it's late, so I'll stop here. I'll write more tomorrow with more detail. Thanks for any advice you guys can give.
E