Thanks
@POB , but also thanks to everyone else for all the input. I really enjoyed the discussion.
Update: I recommend everyone watch the videos
@Skills linked up in
post #161 on top of page 9. This actually made me a bit nervous, like... is it possible that I'm*still* in self-deception? I have to consider the possibility. Is she actually a psychopath?
But, after watching both videos, I can say with 100% certainty now. She's not a psychopath, she's definitely borderline. She also reached out again yesterday from a new number, there's no question she's totally devastated too and going through a lot. It's just impossible.
It's like... we were
soul mates living together and traveling the world together for half a year. The happiest time of our lives. A real paradise on Earth, she was my best friend, we loved each other deeply, best sex ever. It was a fucking dream when it was good.
At the same exact time, there was another side to this coin: I was living with fucking Amber Heard.
Holy shit balls. This could have ended VERY badly! Dragged through court rooms like Johnny Depp, and possibly with a less fortunate outcome, depending how the hearings go.
So I reiterate: if you're reading this, learn from my mistakes, not your own. Stay away from red flag girls unless for hooking up (even that can be risky). Don't pick a girl-friend you haven't vetted for 4-6 months. If you feel the tinglings of falling for a girl early, push the eject button.
About the discussion: I'm in agreement with the other seniors. I think CJ's method of finding a girl-friend is valid. But I think it requires a very advanced skill level to pull it off correctly, otherwise I see a big risk of getting friend-zoned or deceived.
I think it worked for him because he had the real seducer's aura, very high-level skills and lots of social proof going. The combination of these three factors is going to be a magnetic pull on the woman, where she then starts chasing HIM for sex AND a relationship.
And that's miraculous, because it's usually the other way round: the man chases the sex, and then then woman chases the relationship. CJ actually managed to set it up so that the girl was chasing BOTH! Pretty mind-blowing. But I think very advanced.
For someone who doesn't have the skills, aura and social proof of an MPUA, I see this approach as quite risky, because the girls would probably just end up getting friend-zoned for "not making a move".
Finally, I want to thank TestY for sharing these posts by CJ and I'll agree with him that we (PUAs as a whole and especially seniors) can sometimes be overly condescending in our disagreements. It's something I'm still working on myself. I think we all should.
-Karea.