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Re: stuff that i've been doing that's been working

i appreciate that. at the end of the day they all hoes and i'm a hoe. so it's cool if they're cool. i ain't trying to chase no hoe considering she ain't no different than me at the end of the day.
by naturalmikey
Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:50 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: stuff that i've been doing that's been working
Replies: 2
Views: 15

Re: As a hard case, I need some help starting out

what do you look like? you need to honestly answer that question in order to determine your league at which point you can develop a strategy. basically it's gonna come down to how you balance lover/provider game. the better looking you are the more aggressive you can be. looks aren't that important ...
by naturalmikey
Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:47 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: As a hard case, I need some help starting out
Replies: 4
Views: 15

Re: Push/Pull and Compliments

tl;dr: I think I over-complimented a girl during a first date, and want to know if pulling back on the second date will be push/pull. *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************...
by naturalmikey
Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:51 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Push/Pull and Compliments
Replies: 12
Views: 78

Re: Are you getting opened by women?

i see both sides. if i just do a lot of indirect approaches i usually get approach invitiations. like if i'm in set i'm much more likely to have another chick notice me at which point i can eject to the other set or merge the two sets. but most of my lays come from approach invitations or being appr...
by naturalmikey
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:19 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Are you getting opened by women?
Replies: 4
Views: 94

Re: Push/Pull and Compliments

i got out of a marriage at 34. i'm 37 right now. something you probably don't realize is how many young girls like older men. it's not the majority. but it's a lot. anyway i'm just gonna be completely honest with my breakdown of what you wrote. she is 29 years old. this is around the age where women...
by naturalmikey
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:12 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Push/Pull and Compliments
Replies: 12
Views: 78

stuff that i've been doing that's been working

back from a game hiatus when i was involved in a monogamous relationship and did a very minimal amount of cheating. it took me a minute to get good again. part of it was me getting back in shape. i think the confidence boost helped as much as anything. i have a better clarity i feel than i ever did ...
by naturalmikey
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:56 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: stuff that i've been doing that's been working
Replies: 2
Views: 15

8+ daytime pull

Went out to a bar near the beach on sunday. i went with my friend, his girlfriend, and their cute dog. i hadn't seen them much recently so i pretty much stayed seated with them on an outdoor couch. there had been one girl who i was decidedly interested in. when i had gotten up to use the bathroom i ...
by naturalmikey
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:37 pm
 
Forum: Field Reports
Topic: 8+ daytime pull
Replies: 0
Views: 17

Re: Are you better off going out on a weekday than a weekend to pull?

i used to go home from work and nap until midnight. then i’d take a couple shots and go to the bar. even if you pull you’re not very drunk and already slept so you’ll feel fine on whatever extra rest you can get.
by naturalmikey
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:40 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Are you better off going out on a weekday than a weekend to pull?
Replies: 9
Views: 192

Re: How to deal with stage 5 clinger, condom breaking

didn’t even have to read it. plan b is like $40 and worth the investment. if she doesn’t want to just tell her if she doesn’t take it you’ll never talk to her again.
by naturalmikey
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:38 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to deal with stage 5 clinger, condom breaking
Replies: 7
Views: 137

when a girl calls you a player she is giving you an opportunity to control the f

this is true any time someone sets a frame for you. you can always reframe yourself. doesn’t mean she’ll go along with it. but you’re being true to yourself. so if a girl says “i bet you’re a big player” there are at least three frames you could set. 1. you are a player “yeah but only on tuesdays an...
by naturalmikey
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:37 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: when a girl calls you a player she is giving you an opportunity to control the f
Replies: 2
Views: 103

Re: Are you better off going out on a weekday than a weekend to pull?

weekdays are way better. less girls but they’re out there to party. this probably only applies to cities.
by naturalmikey
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:41 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Are you better off going out on a weekday than a weekend to pull?
Replies: 9
Views: 192

Re: Cultural stereotypes you have found to be true when running game.

australians - cool as shit and nuts

latina’s- very jealous
by naturalmikey
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:53 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Cultural stereotypes you have found to be true when running game.
Replies: 4
Views: 146

Re: Im getting weaker before her , and im loosing my power.

she’s not very invested. she probably is cheating. you need to move on.
by naturalmikey
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:44 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Im getting weaker before her , and im loosing my power.
Replies: 6
Views: 137

Re: The old concept of Ground Work

yeah you have to have pretty good sexual subcoms and innuendo based humor to not get physical and still be man to woman. i used to sometimes go in the bathroom on a date and tell myself “if i don’t escalate she won’t either. “ that isn’t true anymore as i’ve become better at sexual subcoms and sexua...
by naturalmikey
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The old concept of Ground Work
Replies: 4
Views: 122

Re: Stop Fixating On Game to Get Better

i don't think game has a whole lot of effect during cold approach. sometimes it does. some girls are naturally very receptive to tactics (usually the hottest girls are most receptive to game), most aren't. most girls won't chase early on. most girls for ONS are looking for an attractive guy who esca...
by naturalmikey
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:04 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Stop Fixating On Game to Get Better
Replies: 4
Views: 157

Re: Im getting weaker before her , and im loosing my power.

pull back. just quit talking to her for a while. the best test of how much a girl likes you is “is she complying.” when a girl stops complying you need to pull back. don’t text her even to respond to her. don’t call. no contact for a week. give he a chance to miss you.
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:23 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Im getting weaker before her , and im loosing my power.
Replies: 6
Views: 137

Re: Cultural stereotypes you have found to be true when running game.

fuck it asians - easy or prudes too smart to date even casually because they get in your business filipinas - dumb and won't get in your business. cool to hang out with. unlike other asians. often hot for asians but always short. american latinas - dumb black woman (that like white men) - gold digge...
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:53 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Cultural stereotypes you have found to be true when running game.
Replies: 4
Views: 146

Re: Cultural stereotypes you have found to be true when running game.

My opinions of non white women are racist to say the least. So i'm just not gonna contribute them.
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:48 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Cultural stereotypes you have found to be true when running game.
Replies: 4
Views: 146

Re: Law of Power: Ignore the kinds of women you like but struggle with.

Yeah the better looking you are the hotter girls you'll get. If you're not good looking or have shit game you need to game the girls you can get. But you better fucking level up. Who wants to keep fucking the same caliber chick all the time. Eventually you gotta accept that you can indeed have it, s...
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:47 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Law of Power: Ignore the kinds of women you like but struggle with.
Replies: 9
Views: 295

Re: Wearing own branding?

you’re overthinking. just own it.
by naturalmikey
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:49 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Wearing own branding?
Replies: 1
Views: 51

Re: General advice where I can improve on

study pickup, approach, and field test to find what works for you.
by naturalmikey
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:45 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: General advice where I can improve on
Replies: 5
Views: 154

Re: I tried to sext my way out of bad logistics...

you have to escalate with sexting. you just came out of the blue and put her on the spot.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21157
by naturalmikey
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:21 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: I tried to sext my way out of bad logistics...
Replies: 5
Views: 154

Re: The old concept of Ground Work

+1 for jacobpalmer. in clubs i try to be very sexual but not kiss. if they wanna kiss i'll kiss for a couple seconds then pull away.
by naturalmikey
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The old concept of Ground Work
Replies: 4
Views: 122

Re: LR: Cute girl writes sticky note message on my windshield

sex isn't as big of an investment for girls until it happens twice. you really have to keep gaming her after sex the first time. you can't text the next day and ask to see her again. i try to wait for her to text. if she doesn't in a couple days i'll ping her like she's any other girl.
by naturalmikey
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:08 am
 
Forum: Field Reports
Topic: LR: Cute girl writes sticky note message on my windshield
Replies: 12
Views: 444

Re: Does she like me more than a friend?

sounds like you’ve got rapport. invite her along on an errand. don’t qualify. just say i’ve got x thing to do wanna join me. by taking her on your errand you’re getting compliance. basically put her to work. ask her to do something for you to hang out. models love jumping through hoops.
by naturalmikey
Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:41 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Does she like me more than a friend?
Replies: 4
Views: 91

Re: Comply or risk chasing? How to respond

everything isn’t a battle of compliance. i think your ego is in it a tad too much. text her if you want or don’t. there’s no compliance score card. do you want to see her again? if you do text her. inherently by texting you are complying. compliance becomes more important over the long run. you have...
by naturalmikey
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:52 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Comply or risk chasing? How to respond
Replies: 1
Views: 52

Re: Strange invitation? Advice on how to play this?

she’s trying to get drama clearly. i would stay away.
by naturalmikey
Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Strange invitation? Advice on how to play this?
Replies: 6
Views: 130

Re: How to close the gap in a car

Naturalmikey dude! I center around being a lover and not putting myself in the boyfriend role. Like you I get girls still chasing me to be their boyfriend. I find the car doesn’t help this, if a was a lover they usually decide to make me a boyfriend after they’ve seen my car. It’s not even that gre...
by naturalmikey
Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:25 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to close the gap in a car
Replies: 11
Views: 215

Re: A girl I was on a date with asked about my ex?

here is a really good video on cluster b women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE5fZaAzXws also drug addiction looks a lot like cluster b in women too. a lot of the prettiest young women have the personality, but i believe most grow out of it by their mid twenties and are not in fact cluster b. if y...
by naturalmikey
Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:24 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: A girl I was on a date with asked about my ex?
Replies: 4
Views: 69

Girls Who Want You, vs. Girls Who Are Bored-but-Available article

went to the comment sections to this article https://www.girlschase.com/content/girls-who-want-you-vs-girls-who-are-bored-available but i guess no one really comments. it's pretty interesting. i had never really thought about it. but i'd say probably half the girls i've been with were not even that ...
by naturalmikey
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:22 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Girls Who Want You, vs. Girls Who Are Bored-but-Available article
Replies: 0
Views: 85

old yareally texting post

this was a yareally post from heartiste. it reminded me of when i used to actually game over text, which is something i should get back into. my personality has kind of shifted from the more fun outgoing guy i was when i used to be into rsd and i kinda think i should get that back. this might be hel...
by naturalmikey
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:01 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: old yareally texting post
Replies: 1
Views: 91

Re: How to close the gap in a car

my whole game is centered around not being boyfriend material. the funny thing is girls still want to date me. but my game is more focused on being the sleazy fuck boy that won’t judge. women love a project.
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:35 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to close the gap in a car
Replies: 11
Views: 215

Re: How to close the gap in a car

i hate driving in the car with a girl i haven't fucked. it's the surest way for things to go dead. i try to keep stuff near my house. i walk and then will either uber with her or have her drive me. the pressure is all on the person in the drivers seat.
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:41 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to close the gap in a car
Replies: 11
Views: 215

Re: Lets share - building up your repertoire (don't post unless you've an e.g)

LMR, a few times a girl has stopped and said but I don't know you. I have tried a few different ways of dealing with this from saying I don't know them. From being playful an re introducing myself (worked once), from questioning it and trying to reframe it. Mostly successful if I can reframe it to ...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:40 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Lets share - building up your repertoire (don't post unless you've an e.g)
Replies: 12
Views: 1620

Re: always be testing for compliance.

Keys next to you are no big deal..."it'll cost you a kiss" this would have to be done very tongue in cheek. and then if she doesn't do it she's not complying. you want to build compliance ladders. a kiss is pretty close to the top of a compliance ladder. a chick isn't just going to comply...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:02 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: always be testing for compliance.
Replies: 10
Views: 180

Re: Feedback? Not a great date, warm chase, silence

would you be mad if a bee stung you. bees sting so of course not. you seemed needy. you couldn't be patient in setting up a second date and she read it. don't be mad at her. she's just a chick being a chick. you probably fucked up. you could try this text in a few days it works pretty well. "bu...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:00 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Feedback? Not a great date, warm chase, silence
Replies: 6
Views: 95

Re: Feedback? Not a great date, warm chase, silence

you're not giving her room to wonder. you shoulda just been like thanks i had fun too. then don't text again for a couple days. david deangelo said "give her the gift of missing you."
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:57 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Feedback? Not a great date, warm chase, silence
Replies: 6
Views: 95

Re: always be testing for compliance.

Keys next to you are no big deal..."it'll cost you a kiss" this would have to be done very tongue in cheek. and then if she doesn't do it she's not complying. you want to build compliance ladders. a kiss is pretty close to the top of a compliance ladder. a chick isn't just going to comply...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: always be testing for compliance.
Replies: 10
Views: 180

Re: always be testing for compliance.

create a quid pro quo situation. if you both comply you're both investing. far better than just you investing. but it's still okay to do nice things for people. so if a girl is like would you grab my keys say yes but ask something of her too. so you could be like sure, but then i want you to tell me...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:27 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: always be testing for compliance.
Replies: 10
Views: 180

Re: I'm a mess. Please, help!

it can come from just not feeling loved. if you're a virgin at your age i find it hard to imagine that you don't have ptsd. and also just because you are in good shape doesn't mean you don't have low testosterone. women have very low testosterone and can still build considerable muscle if that's the...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: I'm a mess. Please, help!
Replies: 27
Views: 639

Re: Lets share - building up your repertoire (don't post unless you've an e.g)

how to open off eye contact when walking towards each other example: i'm walking towards the back of the bar and target is walking to the front. as we get close we make eye contact and don't break it until we are very close. i stick out my hand and introduce myself. her eyes get big. it's just super...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:12 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Lets share - building up your repertoire (don't post unless you've an e.g)
Replies: 12
Views: 1620

Re: I'm a mess. Please, help!

also you may have low testosterone. get bloodwork done. if you do you can get prescribed testosterone.
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:10 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: I'm a mess. Please, help!
Replies: 27
Views: 639

mild sexting on bumble

this is kind of a mix of free association and lines. this is as explicit as i get and it’s not very.

https://imgur.com/a/M67Tojs
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:36 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: mild sexting on bumble
Replies: 0
Views: 40

Re: I'm a mess. Please, help!

you sound like you have ptsd. i do too it's not the end of the world. actually most men who get into this stuff do. sometimes you just have to face your fears. getting girls isn't gonna fix you, but in my opinion it helps you get to a place where you're ready to look at yourself. i have improved ste...
by naturalmikey
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: I'm a mess. Please, help!
Replies: 27
Views: 639

a couple good articles on compliance

if you don't fully understand compliance, here are a couple good resources

what men don't understand about female attraction - https://blackdragonblog.com/2016/12/01/ ... ttraction/
compliance and value - http://www.seductiontuition.com/vin-dic ... value.html
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:04 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: a couple good articles on compliance
Replies: 0
Views: 42

anti manifesto

this is another one of those classics. this is by sixty years of challenge. posts like this and the secret society aren't meant to be taken literally for all the logical minds out there. this is more of a mindset. You don't really need to do or say much of anything. There is already tension between ...
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:01 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: anti manifesto
Replies: 0
Views: 47

the secret society

a lot of people probably aren't familiar with this. it's from tyler durden before he became famous. this was really helpful to me. Many guys will dislike this, because it implies that women are sluts and untrustworthy. Well, I can only speak from my experience and report back what I’ve seen. I’m als...
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:00 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: the secret society
Replies: 0
Views: 55

Re: How to stop game and getting laid from letting you build a successful future

One sentence answer: Is Your Game Sustainable? I could go on and on and so in many other topics, but when? See my signature for more. :( great article. one of the few times i've related to every thing daryush says. i dedicated a year of my life to learning game. i was probably six months in before ...
by naturalmikey
Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:58 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to stop game and getting laid from letting you build a successful future
Replies: 2
Views: 90
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