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Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

Hey EP, Very good input. Maybe we are starting to get close to something. Here are my thoughts. I suspect it all boils down to what these women are expecting to get from these salsa nights, and it's probably exactly that: for dance night very few girls show up trying to get laid. Everyone's there to...
by Seppuku
Thu May 23, 2019 5:05 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

Thank you again Seppuku! I couldn't have made the progress I have without you! You're welcome, but yet we haven't been able to debug your game. And based on how basically all my dates have gone, this means I'm going to be icy faced literally the entire time. Is that normal? Is it actually normal to...
by Seppuku
Wed May 22, 2019 2:18 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

Hey EP, Wow there's a lot to cover. Let me start by saying that everything Phoenix says is very much on point. All good advice. Girl 3 was a clear time waster. She is clearly "not here to fuck". She just want to enjoy being pampered and dated around. She will try to make the party last as ...
by Seppuku
Tue May 21, 2019 4:36 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: I met the most high level girl in my lile. And I think I didn't like her.

So, I decided to go for the physical attractiveness instead of approaching every "just cute" girl. And also because I approached over 2600+ "just cute" girls and only had 50 dates of which I didn't like about 35 of them. So, clearly, tier #2 doesn't work for me)) It's up to you....
by Seppuku
Fri May 17, 2019 3:47 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: I met the most high level girl in my lile. And I think I didn't like her.
Replies: 8
Views: 100

Re: I met the most high level girl in my lile. And I think I didn't like her.

Hey nad, About being turned off by some points of her personality: that happens from times to times. Now I suspect that she played her "high value girl" role in order to test your manly resolve. Just be careful, because this is a test, that you should pass like other tests. But the point I...
by Seppuku
Fri May 17, 2019 1:29 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: I met the most high level girl in my lile. And I think I didn't like her.
Replies: 8
Views: 100

Re: What if a guy decided not to get married or LTR in his 30s?

Toby, You may feel now that you don't want to settle down - and it's totally fine, you don't have to. But after a few years, you see new things coming your way: ⋅  Get a girl - smash - rinse - repeat. All fun for some time, but it gets boring after a while; ⋅  You eventually find...
by Seppuku
Thu May 16, 2019 5:55 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: What if a guy decided not to get married or LTR in his 30s?
Replies: 4
Views: 96

Re: Balls of Steel

Ricardo, That was great job, congratulations. I hope many of the beginner guys here will read and learn from this: 1. When you voice out some "relationship-ey" comment, she freezes; 2. When you adopt the "I've already lost her anyway so I don't care" attitude and get ballsy, you ...
by Seppuku
Fri May 10, 2019 1:36 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Balls of Steel
Replies: 1
Views: 56

Re: Leaving Girlfriend For Summer?

Ambiance, Over the year I've had a few long distance girlfriends and faced the question of communication. From my experience I can tell you that: It's best to avoid setting a fixed, daily communication pattern. It establishes a precedent, a routine, a habit, and the day either of you break the patte...
by Seppuku
Fri May 10, 2019 1:22 am
 
Forum: Relationships
Topic: Leaving Girlfriend For Summer?
Replies: 4
Views: 75

Re: Help! Is she feeling outmatched->autorejection, or looking for investement?

Also may I ask what made you guess her age to be 30? Because in their 30s women tend to be more a pain in the ass with the "no sex before date X" and other similar "rules". but on the off chance this is reperable I’d like to clarify what you mean by go silent. Should I not respo...
by Seppuku
Mon May 06, 2019 3:51 pm
 
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Help! Is she feeling outmatched->autorejection, or looking for investement?
Replies: 4
Views: 109

Re: Help! Is she feeling outmatched->autorejection, or looking for investement?

Hey man, I am sorry to be the messenger of bad news, but this doesn't look too good. Your initial escalation attempt failed for two possible reasons: (i) she wasn't comfortable enough, or (ii) she wasn't horny enough (probably a bit of both). She didn't want to have sex and without knowing why she w...
by Seppuku
Mon May 06, 2019 4:26 am
 
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Help! Is she feeling outmatched->autorejection, or looking for investement?
Replies: 4
Views: 109

Re: Going to a hotel easily?

Well, then why don't you try your way, then come back here to report the results. You go on a date, then take her to the hotel and go through the check in with her on your side. See how it goes. I foresee discomfort and ASD, but what if I'm wrong? Try out and see for yourself! She knows you live in ...
by Seppuku
Sun May 05, 2019 6:45 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Going to a hotel easily?
Replies: 10
Views: 133

Re: Going to a hotel easily?

Hey SZ, Going to a hotel with a girl you just met, and going through the check in process with her, has a lot of potential for fuck up. 1. The transition between date place and room is NOT smooth. It's going to kill the mood, very likely. 2. It is going to make her feel like a cheap slut. Possibilit...
by Seppuku
Sun May 05, 2019 12:37 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Going to a hotel easily?
Replies: 10
Views: 133

Re: Frame Control: Where Online Dating Falls Short

Hey BigS, Yeah I have seen a few of your LRs, good job man, you are on the right track! As per my credentials to answer your questions on online game, I am mostly an online game guy, over 120 dates from online gaming in the last 5 years. About setting frames Now to answer your primary question, I do...
by Seppuku
Sat May 04, 2019 1:50 am
 
Forum: Advanced
Topic: Frame Control: Where Online Dating Falls Short
Replies: 5
Views: 139

Re: Is it better to call or text chicks from apps?

My own guidelines, if it helps? 1. I *never* call. You're almost guaranteed to call at a wrong time. What will you do next? On the other hand, a text message is much lower pressure, she can answer when she has time. I understand that you do a better impression in person than in text, but then I'll d...
by Seppuku
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:28 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Is it better to call or text chicks from apps?
Replies: 7
Views: 116

Re: when it is time to ask her home?

Seppuku, between this and your other answer I have way too much information and will be waiting for my next date to put it in practice)) Fuck This, "If she can smell your neediness, it's off..." that is a big one, I understand now, I wasn't thinking about a person or our connection, I was...
by Seppuku
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:41 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: when it is time to ask her home?
Replies: 8
Views: 88

Re: when it is time to ask her home?

Like what if she doesn't understand that I want to fuck her. There is a little bit of nuance here. There are two levels in every women: (i) the logical / educated part, mostly conscious, and (ii) the emotional / instinctive part, mostly unconscious. (ii) is the part of her you want to understand yo...
by Seppuku
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:05 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: when it is time to ask her home?
Replies: 8
Views: 88

Re: I tried so hard And got so far But in the end I was waaay too pushy

Hey nad, What I think happened in your case is, you triggered her ASD with the sexual topics, then tried to pull her home when she was not yet comfortable with you. Also, Fuck This has a point. Just touching her is not enough, it is good to see some reciprocation. At each step you need to gauge her ...
by Seppuku
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:09 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: I tried so hard And got so far But in the end I was waaay too pushy
Replies: 3
Views: 68

Re: girl says not to touch her at all, because bad energy

girl sat on my couch, we talked about how far dick can fit in her mouth and how easily she cums. BUT she says not to touch her at all, bc that is a bad exchange of energy or some shit, and she doesn't even let her classmates touch her at college. 2 days later she texts It's not happening with bulsh...
by Seppuku
Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:15 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: girl says not to touch her at all, because bad energy
Replies: 9
Views: 223

April update

Three dates, two LRs So just like I posted last time, I had three dates back to back with three girls early in March. One of the girls was just passing through Doha so there was no material time to do anything too serious before she had to go to her plane. The second girl was a cabin crew from our ...
by Seppuku
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:34 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: Seppuku's Journey into Seduction
Replies: 236
Views: 62533

Re: Improvement 2.0: a date every 12 approaches, but quality sucks now

6 dates for 72 approaches, that starts to become quite reasonable. But getting numbers and turning them into dates was just the beginning. Now your next step is to learn dating skills: ⋅  reading her body language ⋅  passing her tests and overcoming her objections ⋅  bu...
by Seppuku
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:21 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Improvement 2.0: a date every 12 approaches, but quality sucks now
Replies: 3
Views: 103

Re: Wasted Years - An Old Guy Rant

Hey MR, Cheers from a former huge Iron Maiden fan! Seppuku (Pierre) here. I agree that Girls Chase has some unique, life changing material. I started immersing myself into the content and ideas written by Chase and others back in 2012, before finally prompting myself out of inaction in 2014 (I was 4...
by Seppuku
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:00 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Wasted Years - An Old Guy Rant
Replies: 6
Views: 182

Re: LR-: Well that was unexpected. Finally just got lucky!

Good job! You are getting there! Just keep going. After some simple texting, we arranged to get together on Thursday. She asked where we should meet. I suggested her place and she agreed without objecting. Very good move. First date straight at her place, that's the sort of bold move that will win y...
by Seppuku
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:52 am
 
Forum: Field Reports
Topic: LR-: Well that was unexpected. Finally just got lucky!
Replies: 5
Views: 434

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

EP, We are running into circles. I will eventually sound repetitive. They can't read your mind, but I'm convinced they're reading something about me. Of course they do. Guys who do not see any girl, find it almost impossible to get one girl. Guys who are seeing 3 girls simultaneously, will have no p...
by Seppuku
Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:45 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.

1. I think of all the college kids I knew who had their cliques, friends, and large groups which they had a lot in common with. Then I think of how I could never have that in my day and don't even have that now. You are chasing ghosts in my opinion. What do you think happened with all these big col...
by Seppuku
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:38 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.
Replies: 57
Views: 1214

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

What I say above was regarding how to run the date. Now, regarding how to get a date, I would recommend you think what you were doing before, because obviously that did work. Just do the same! You used to have this part right... Check for what you changed recently that caused your results plummeted....
by Seppuku
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:31 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

Seppuku, to be honest, I believe you that if I just stay at it I'll get it... But at the same time, I can't help but be very confident that after the countless interactions I've had with women that I see a clear conclusion here: They're just not excited to meet me and interact with me, and that's w...
by Seppuku
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:03 pm
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

I've struggled to try it lately because I'm just not seeing any sign of life from these girls. Just like on my dates that you've read about, even though these girls are agreeing to a date with me and give me their number when asked, they're not showing any signs of real interest. No hair playing, n...
by Seppuku
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:37 pm
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?

Hey ElderPrice, I see Cientifico is already giving you some very useful feedback. But tell me, when we initially started exchanging, you told me you had managed to get close to 40 dates. And now none? So what were you doing then, that you are no longer doing now? What kills me and keeps me depressed...
by Seppuku
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:28 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: ElderPrice: From 30 y/o virgin to ?
Replies: 124
Views: 1768

Re: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.

Except I have no guy friends in my new city yet, I just arrived here, all outings have been with dates I met from dating apps. That's why. Decide what is your priority. Social life? Or girls? It is going to be too hard to improve on both at the same time. To make any meaningful change takes time an...
by Seppuku
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.
Replies: 57
Views: 1214

Re: Early March update

So you plan on only using the site to get lays for free right? So how's that work so they don't get upset that you try to get it for free? How do you frame it before the date? How do you let them know you're not going to really be their sugar daddy? Hey Sub-Zero, In case it wasn't clear, yes I am p...
by Seppuku
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:53 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: Seppuku's Journey into Seduction
Replies: 236
Views: 62533

Early March update

@ElderPrice Thank you EP! Well the eggs shake is not just another protein shake, but actually more like a natural anabolic drink that will promote testosterone and growth hormone in your body, and help increase your muscle mass from weightlifting. From what I have seen in my three weeks experiment, ...
by Seppuku
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:57 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: Seppuku's Journey into Seduction
Replies: 236
Views: 62533

Re: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.

Guys like Seppuku and many others on this thread are no doubt good dudes who mean well, and I know they are trying to reach out to me and really reason with me but I've been thinking about this on almost the daily about why it is haunting my thoughts some more, just peeling off the layers here. Tha...
by Seppuku
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:01 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.
Replies: 57
Views: 1214

Re: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.

Very frankly no one can help you if you don't even help yourself. The most urgent thing you need to do to fix yourself, is to get out of this negative mindset in which you are, and which is currently your biggest problem. As long as you stay in the sort of negative mindset you are currently in, ther...
by Seppuku
Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:59 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.
Replies: 57
Views: 1214

Re: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.

It reminds me something I wrote on his thread about 6 months ago: Yeah it's sounds like deja vu, all over again. Once in a while we have a profile similar to yours, where the guy goes complaining endlessly about the little woes in his life. It's always more or less the same. He couldn't do [xxx] whi...
by Seppuku
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:44 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Missing out on the social experience of college still haunts me, here's why.
Replies: 57
Views: 1214

Re: Girls on tinder not serious about hooking up

Hey in my experience it can work - sometimes - if she's really DTF. When it works, it's great, she comes straight to your home and bed. But you just lose a lot of girls in the process. It's a choice. Same with sexting by the way. I experimented a little bit along these lines, then returned to the go...
by Seppuku
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:46 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Girls on tinder not serious about hooking up
Replies: 8
Views: 219

Re: Girls on tinder not serious about hooking up

Very simple: this approach will shoot her level of ASD well above the roof. You may succeed, sometimes, with the most DTF of them, but at the same time you will lose plenty of girls who would otherwise have been OK with casual sex - provided that you managed her ASD correctly. That shows, again, tha...
by Seppuku
Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:41 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Girls on tinder not serious about hooking up
Replies: 8
Views: 219

Re: FR+: First ever date with a cutie

Hey Human, That was your first date, and I don't want to minimize that. You talked to her, got her number, and took her out on a date, this simple fact is great and give yourself a pat in the back for that! I certainly would if we met. So, that was good job. Now the bad news: you still have a long w...
by Seppuku
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:01 am
 
Forum: Field Reports
Topic: FR+: First ever date with a cutie
Replies: 6
Views: 216

Anabolic experiment, part 3.

For anybody having interest in this little anabolic experiment with eggs - as well as for my own records - here is the last part of this 3 weeks adventure. I completed a third week of my eggs shake diet, this time going back to 12 eggs a day. The diet Typical shake: put the following in a mixer. &sd...
by Seppuku
Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:02 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: Seppuku's Journey into Seduction
Replies: 236
Views: 62533

Re: Is there any hope for me with women?

So I managed to get lucky and this girl who works at this casino I go to play poker at showed a lot of interest in me. I asked for her number and scheduled a date for next Sunday. The texting in between is going pretty well. I was just wondering if you guys had any general advice for someone going ...
by Seppuku
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:59 am
 
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Is there any hope for me with women?
Replies: 11
Views: 412

Re: A different way of conceptualizing women's "tests"

Hey BBoy, Welcome back! I loved your example. To add to the great viewpoints stated by Franco and GP (which I agree with), I would like to state an alternative way to interpret this story: collision of frames. In the world of frames, it looks like this: Her frame: "I'm a little princess. Kiss m...
by Seppuku
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:53 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: A different way of conceptualizing women's "tests"
Replies: 11
Views: 277

Re: Best Process to Loose Virginity

@Seppuku I am not aiming to have a relationship soon. But just out of curiosity what would you consider a good number before entering one? To me, a real expertise in women mindset comes around a laycount of 30-50. That's when you have a good panorama of the various kind of women around, their psych...
by Seppuku
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:47 pm
 
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Best Process to Loose Virginity
Replies: 15
Views: 622

Re: Brainwashing, Circumcision, Low-T, and Other Causes of E.D.

Phoenix, First of all, know that we have all experienced the flaccid dick surprise at one point or another. Let me share my thoughts on a few of your points.   ⋅  Having kept myself away from women sexually for so long, I probably havenʼt made the Pavlovian connection in my brain between a...
by Seppuku
Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:18 am
 
Forum: Sex
Topic: Brainwashing, Circumcision, Low-T, and Other Causes of E.D.
Replies: 2
Views: 207

Vince's eggs diet - update

@Ray It's a nice little LR :) It shows (1) when you get to a certain level you can disregard more of the rules, such as about breaking the tension before the lay can happen, (2) the pull talk is working for you -- so important that :) Nowadays I think that the "rules of the game" are espe...
by Seppuku
Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:42 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: Seppuku's Journey into Seduction
Replies: 236
Views: 62533

Re: LR: Basically my first, and from day game!  Robbed by genital mutilation :'‑

Hey Phoenix, Good job. I am very glad to see you succeed. Hard work on yourself is starting to pay! So now on to the (hopefully constructive) comments. Just adding on Ray's points. You had two big moments of realization. These are the moments when you actually experience the things that you had read...
by Seppuku
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:23 am
 
Forum: Field Reports
Topic: LR: Basically my first, and from day game!  Robbed by genital mutilation :'‑(
Replies: 5
Views: 316

Re: I have toxic beliefs about life after college I cannot seem to lose.

Instead of forever crying and lamenting whining and flagellating yourself about the life you didn't have in college, why don't you work right now for the kind of life you want to have in your mid twenties? What is past can never be changed, however you can work today so that you won't whine five yea...
by Seppuku
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: I have toxic beliefs about life after college I cannot seem to lose.
Replies: 4
Views: 197

Re: My first girlfriend in an open relationship

Hey SupS, You are the one who authorized her to have a second lover, and to tell you about it. The only reason you even know she has a second lover, is because you framed this as an "open" relationship from the very beginning. You are the one who told her it's OK not only to have a second ...
by Seppuku
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:19 am
 
Forum: Relationships
Topic: My first girlfriend in an open relationship
Replies: 1
Views: 175

February update

OK let us get started with my first new lay for the year, which happened late January. Long time I didn't write up an LR! LR: miss Rose I matched her on Tinder and initially it is not very clear to me if she is pretty or not, because her only picture doesn't show her face. I usually swipe left on th...
by Seppuku
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:23 am
 
Forum: Journals
Topic: Seppuku's Journey into Seduction
Replies: 236
Views: 62533

Re: Clarification: What is the purpose of game?

Interesting answer Seppuku! Does any of that change depending on girls' attractiveness? Absolutely not. You "game" a HB9+ girl, exactly the same way you do a HB6. It is in fact absolutely essential to not doing anything different. The HB9+ girls live in a world of men in awe who all "...
by Seppuku
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:52 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Clarification: What is the purpose of game?
Replies: 3
Views: 111

Re: Clarification: What is the purpose of game?

Interesting question. For me, the first goal of game is to learn to not screw it up . If the guy is not a complete social zero, there are tons of girls out there who would like him. But he doesn't get with them, because (i) he wouldn't even appear on their radar, and (ii) when he does appear on thei...
by Seppuku
Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:33 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Clarification: What is the purpose of game?
Replies: 3
Views: 111

Re: Best Process to Loose Virginity

It's done. Using your and GC way! Lost the VCard (and first kiss) on the first date in less 20 minutes from meet too intimacy. Told the girl to come to my area after work, went to Starbucks found it closed, I was like shit, I kissed her outside, took her home.. fade to black. The best thing I didn'...
by Seppuku
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:13 am
 
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Best Process to Loose Virginity
Replies: 15
Views: 622
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